Fuel leaks force NASA to scrub launch of new moon rocket
Source: AP
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) A fuel leak and then an engine problem during final liftoff preparations led NASA to scrub the launch of its mighty new moon rocket Monday morning on a shakedown flight with three test dummies aboard. The next launch attempt will not take place until Friday at the earliest.
As precious minutes ticked away, NASA repeatedly stopped and started the fueling of the Space Launch System rocket with nearly 1 million gallons of super-cold hydrogen and oxygen because of a leak of highly explosive hydrogen in the same place that saw seepage during a dress rehearsal back in the spring.
Then, NASA ran into new trouble when it was unable to properly chill one of the rockets four main engines, officials said. Engineers continued working to gather data and pinpoint the source of the problem after the launch postponement was announced. The rocket was set to lift off on a mission to put a crew capsule into orbit around the moon. The launch represents a milestone in Americas quest to put astronauts back on the lunar surface for the first time since the Apollo program ended 50 years ago.
The 322-foot (98-meter) spaceship is the most powerful rocket ever built by NASA, out-muscling even the Saturn V that took the Apollo astronauts to the moon. As for when NASA might make another launch attempt, launch commentator Derrol Nail said the problem was still being analyzed, and we must wait to see what shakes out from their test data.
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The 322-foot Space Launch System rocket was set to lift off Monday morning with three test dummies aboard on its first flight, a mission to propel a capsule into orbit around the moon.
The shakedown flight, when it happens, will be a big step forward in Americas quest to put astronauts back on the moon for the first time since the end of the Apollo program 50 years ago.
NASA hopes to send four astronauts around the moon in 2024 and land humans there as early as 2025.
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Tom Yossarian Joad
(19,229 posts)Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)It was a foam insulation issue on the tank adjacent to a super cold hydrogen line, and frost was forming on the insulation.
BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)Apparently when they were attempting to troubleshoot to get engine 3 filling/tank temp stabilized, they drained the other 3 and then were still running into the issue with #3 again (outside of that foam crack causing a line of ambient air to freeze along the foam split).
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The launch of #Artemis I is no longer happening today as teams work through an issue with an engine bleed. Teams will continue to gather data, and we will keep you posted on the timing of the next launch attempt. https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/
8:44 AM · Aug 29, 2022
https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2022/08/29/engineers-troubleshooting-engine-conditioning-issue/
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)He was really looking forward to it and was even forced to hold off on doing whatever special programming had been planned and instead stuck with the launch facility stream/status.
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,229 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)understands how incredibly complex and challenging it can be to get a successful flight. Now switch to liquid fuel and the complexity goes up by a factor of 1000 or so. Supercooled liquid hydrogen and oxygen on one side of the engines, superhot exhaust on the other. The thermal gradients alone are enough to make your head spin.
Someone once said that there are a million different things that can happen at a launch. And only one of them is good.
BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)they managed to get all those shuttles up (probably with much hand-wringing and we did see what happened with Challenger and those liquid fuel tanks)
In fact as I understand, they are using repurposed parts from the shuttle program's boosters for this.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)compared to building from scratch. You save time and money, but often things don't line up quite right.
Also, we did lose two shuttles. Space travel is freaking complex and dangerous.
BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)then they would have had the specs for that stuff. I haven't delved into who all is involved with NASA's Artemis but it usually boils down to the same companies that have been around doing space-related stuff since the '50s!
VWolf
(3,944 posts)It's just that the specs might not be exactly what is needed for the new vehicle. Although, I admit not knowing the details.
BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)It's on my "to do" list!
VWolf
(3,944 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)It's BIG 'n heavy.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)I believe all 4 blew up either on the pad or in flight. That's the danger with using 30 engines
BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)And China will probably forge ahead past them. They went from zero to their current Long March in 50 years (where the rest of us started a couple decades earlier). Of course they have a problem with their booster (and its debris) reentry.
electric_blue68
(14,903 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)electric_blue68
(14,903 posts)ETA That made me smile
BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)Brannon Braga "declaring" that it changed the Star Trek "timeline" and even the Trek species like Vulcans (so he could then screw with later series like "Enterprise" ).
electric_blue68
(14,903 posts)I know Enterprise has its detractors, but I love it
BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)and didn't have a problem with it being a prequel to the original, but I did have a problem with what they did with Vulcans. Manny Coto was brought in near the end of its run as show-runner to repair the damage and he made a valiant effort but it was too late unfortunately.
Delarage
(2,186 posts)Designed the original manned moon mission rockets with drastically less advanced technology. Smart people! Not saying the current scientists are any less smart---shit happens. Just amazed that they did it back then
RussBLib
(9,012 posts)....after all this money and all this time and they still cannot launch. Part of NASA's problem is that it is a federal agency, and so this Senator and that Senator and that Congressman lobby for their own districts to get more of the money pie and you end up with rockets that use 10 different suppliers, all demanding their interests are above others.
And Musk and Bezos are probably laughing this morning.
BumRushDaShow
(129,017 posts)Neither of those guys are launching a rocket that is 32 stories high either. They are only at the stage (with modern equipment) that NASA (with its many contractors) had reached in the '70s with Sky Lab (remember that almost 50 years ago)?
The computer/software systems equipment alone is mind boggling. Some of these contractors/NASA employees have also been working from home for the past two years.
llmart
(15,540 posts)The amount of work that is put into these launches is almost mind boggling. The launch director has to be super cautious when she gives the "go" signal to launch. And yes, it's a woman for the first time in history!
The effort is Herculean, and I applaud the efforts of everyone involved. It'll get done, when all the lights are green.
llmart
(15,540 posts)He's a software engineer and I've seen his setup on his dining room table. When he got the job he was vetted more than you-know-who was. He had to pass a top level security clearance too. He's back working on site two days a week, but for two plus years he did everything from home.
LudwigPastorius
(9,145 posts)and it was pretty successful.
Also, Fuck Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)orangecrush
(19,555 posts)They did the right thing.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)20% poverty there.
CaptainTruth
(6,591 posts)The causeways were clogged with traffic after the launch was scrubbed. I'm glad I didn't have to leave the island this morning!
And I'm not going near a restaurant, they're all packed.