Judge grants Trump bid for special master in document search

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Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Monday granted a request by former President Donald Trump’s legal team to appoint a special master to review documents seized by the FBI from his Florida home last month and also temporarily halted the Justice Department’s use of the records for investigative purposes.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon came despite the objections of the Justice Department, which said an outside legal expert was not necessary in part because officials had already completed their review of potentially privileged documents. The judge had previously signaled her inclination to approve a special master, asking a department lawyer during arguments this month, “What is the harm?”

The appointment is likely to slow the pace of the department’s investigation into the presence of top-secret information at Mar-a-Lago given the judge’s directive that the Justice Department may not for the moment use any of the seized materials for investigative purposes. But it is not clear that it will have any significant effect on any investigative decisions or the ultimate outcome of the probe.

Cannon, who was nominated to the bench by Trump in 2020, said she would permit the continuation of a risk assessment of the documents being conducted by the U.S. intelligence community.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-government-and-politics-bc980316f80f88620b92e5666f96251c

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Link to order (PDF) - https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22275109/specialmaster_order0905.pdf

Article being updated. Original article and headline -

Judge grants Trump bid for special master in Mar-a-Lago case

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Monday granted a request by former President Donald Trump’s legal team to appoint a special master to review documents seized by the FBI during a search of his Florida home last month.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon came despite the objections of the Justice Department, which said an outside legal expert was not necessary in part because officials had already completed their review of potentially privileged documents. The judge had previously signaled her inclination to approve a special master, asking a department lawyer during arguments this month, “What is the harm?”

The appointment may slow the pace of the department’s investigation into the presence of top-secret information at Mar-a-Lago, but it is unlikely to affect any investigative decisions or the ultimate outcome of the probe.

[pnwmom]

1. Here's the document.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64911367/64/trump-v-united-states/

[TigressDem]

19. NOT GOOD

the Court also temporarily enjoins the Government from reviewing and using the seized materials for investigative purposes
pending completion of the special master’s review or further Court order.


IF IN ANY OF HIS "PERSONAL or ATTY PRIVILEGED ITEMS" he basically confesses to wrong doing... those can be removed and he can hold up use of the findings.

[in2herbs]

26. I wish to believe that Garland anticipated this from a MAGAT judge and will take immediate

action to render her decision moot, either by arresting tfg or by arresting the higher ups on his food chain and offering them a plea in exchange for their evidence.

IMO this decision cannot be decided by this current USSC. Garland must do whatever is necessary to render this judge's decision moot ASAP.

[Lulu KC]

73. Yes yes and yes n/t

[Joinfortmill]

92. We're in it now.

[Evolve Dammit]

105. I seriously doubt he can. Or will try

[Novara]

29. Not if there's a crime committed

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-crime-fraud-exception-the-attorney-client-privilege.html?pathUI=button

The attorney-client privilege protects most communications between clients and their lawyers. But, according to the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, a client's communication to her attorney isn't privileged if she made it with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud.

Because the attorney-client privilege belongs to the client, the client's intent determines whether the exception applies. Most courts will apply the exception even if the attorney had no knowledge of, and didn't participate in, the actual crime or fraud.

The crime-fraud exception applies if:

the client was in the process of committing or intended to commit a crime or fraudulent act, and

the client communicated with the lawyer with intent to further the crime or fraud, or to cover it up.

There's more n the link.

[in2herbs]

80. Questions of attorney/client privilege are normally brought up during a trial or via pre-trial

motions for a crime that a person is accused of and the trial judge decides whether privilege exists and whether or not that particular piece of evidence can be allowed to convict the person. There is no trial currently pending for any of tfg's crimes. If allowed to proceed the SM can conduct a trial about executive privilege but the SM can also delay the whole process leaving tfg free to continue his crimes.

I don't know what international court could do it, but if there is one (Hauge??) maybe tfg's espionage should be taken out of USA control. Just wondering .....

[blueknight73]

109. This will

get appealed and be overturned by the appellate court in D.C. where it has jurisdiction

[Wednesdays]

113. And then on to the SCOTUS, where...

[NYC Liberal]

116. We need to win in November and then expand SCOTUS

That’s the only way.

This election is as important and the last one was. If not even more so.

[VMA131Marine]

119. Do they really want to open it up to where

Every previous president can exert executive privilege over the incumbent?

Plus if SCOTUS upheld this they would be overturning their own precedents; not that that has stopped them before. However, the Constitution is very clear that there can be only one President at a time so it should be obvious that no previous president can claim executive privilege without the consent of the current executive … and Joe Biden has said he does not consent.

[Wednesdays]

123. This current SCOTUS will twist themselves into a pretzel

to give TFG what he wants.

[William Seger]

79. Theoretically, criminal evidence can't have privilege

... but the special master won't have to justify any decisions.

[Walleye]

2. Rich crybaby little boys always get what they want. That's the American way

[gab13by13]

11. Putin isn't a crybaby.

[Walleye]

27. That's pretty good. I forgot Putin appointed this judge

[gab13by13]

52. I used to post on my local Magat web site,

I got tossed because I called Trump a Putin puppet. I guess I touched a nerve with them?

[Walleye]

54. Yes the truth is like kryptonite to the Republican Party

[lostnfound]

3. Review for "attorney-client and/or executive privilege"

Ugh. Absurd.

[Lonestarblue]

35. The person who currently holds executive privilege is Joseph R. Biden.

It is not Donald Trump, and Biden has already said that he will not use executive privilege to shield Trump. One one hope a federal judge would follow this rule, but of course she’s a Trump flunky.

Can the DOJ appeal this decision?

[kelly1mm]

69. Yes the DOJ can appeal. Either side was probably going to appeal and this, in effect, helps DJT

as the appeals process takes time (months usually) and will probably be appealed from the Circuit Court to the USSC after that.

The notion that executive privilege (the legal precept that conversations/notes/documents between the President and his/her advisors that are done during the Presidency and that the President whishes to keep private) 'expire' the minute the President leaves office is not correct. If so, the day after President Obama left office all conversations/notes/documents pertaining to advice by his advisors would have been subject to subpoena/congressional review. If that was the case it would defeat the purpose of executive privilege which is to have frank, honest deliberations/debate with the President. If that ONLY would be in effect while that President was in office it would severely limit the quality of the conversations.

Obviously any conversations/notes/documents prepared pre or post Presidency are not subject to executive privilege.

In any event I foresee these issues going all the way to the USSC for clarification. I also think DJT may well pass on before this is fully adjudicated.

[Calista241]

134. Her opinion is pretty broad, and very bad for us.

She talks about how the SC heard a case just this year, and that implies that former presidents can assert exec privilege, even though Biden won in that specific case.

That’s going to have to be litigated to overcome this judge’s opinion on appeal.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. This is the Big Lie for legally and successfully executed search warrants, thanks Judge Idiot

[LoisB]

5. Of course she did. Judge shopping.

[SoFloDenny]

14. How peculiar for this judge to announce her decision on a holiday. n/t

[LoisB]

18. I didn't think about that but you're right, that is odd.

[EndlessWire]

89. Actually, she announced her decision

before the Government even had a chance to file response papers.

[jalan48]

6. Is anyone surprised? More delay and more time for Republican's to message on the

corporate media.

[hamsterjill]

41. Not surprised one iota.

Totally expected this. This is why some of us here have been and continue to insist that time is of the essence!

[jalan48]

49. Yes, the longer the delay the more time for Republican's to propagandize. The outrage at

what Trump has done gets watered down with the passing of time and the argument becomes a legal back and forth.

[llashram]

86. yep

leaves a lot of room to spin, spin, spin 'their truth' until one pie hits the wall and sticks. I do have some faith the DOJ anticipated this early outcome and has all the proof it needs, no matter a so-called
'special masterba'...oh sorry I digress. All this is a trump diversion and fading hail mary hopes for safety. I just don't believe this decision by a trump judicial sycophant will alter trump's ultimate early fate.

He's still going down!!! Our experiment in Democracy has just grown stronger over the centuries against all enemies foreign and domestic.

[Chainfire]

7. It is nice to be able to hand-select your own judge from among your appointees. That Presidency

thing is the gift that keeps on giving.

[getagrip_already]

88. others have pointed out this was a random selection, but....

It does appear no other judges were available at the time and it was a pool of one.

Hardly random.

[Nasruddin]

97. "It's good to be king!"

Thanks Mel Brooks

[kairos12]

8. The Next Thing

They will object to whomever is appointed to be Special Master about 9 times.

[gab13by13]

55. I agree,

the process of appointing the SM will drag out.

[old guy]

10. And tRump just keeps on winning.

The justice system is a sad unfunny joke.

[CBHagman]

39. No, he doesn't keep on winning, and he faces multiple investigations.

We voted his rear end out of office, and since that time there has been a stream of revelations about his various corrupt activities. None of this is going away with the granting of a special master, and that can be appealed anyway.

We shouldn't make Trump more powerful than he is or has been. He does not in fact get away with everything, and his sleazy delaying and obstruction tactics work until they don't.

Here's a bit of what's going on. It's not the most updated list, but it covers a lot.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/08/donald-trump-fbi-raid-explainer

[Ferrets are Cool]

62. He may not be winning, but he is not in jail for his crimes.

Until THAT happens, it's a win for him.

[SheltieLover]

66. Lucky for him he's not been treated like a Black man sellimg indiv cigs on corner

Now there's a threat to our country!

[Joinfortmill]

95. Yes, that was a shame on our country.

[msfiddlestix]

143. Exacly

I have to say, that it appears (to this reader) this decision reported out on a major national holiday is no coincidence.

Someone mentioned, she handed that down before the DOJ was able to file a response to the previous motion?


Not surprised, but terribly disappointed and does nothing to advance what little optimism I attempted to hang on to and nurture.

[msfiddlestix]

144. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t

[emulatorloo]

12. Hey Judge, Trump doesn't have "Executive Privilege"

[rsdsharp]

68. Even if he did, you can't claim executive privilege against the executive,

which is what he’s trying to do. He thinks executive privilege means the documents are his. We’ll see what the 11th Circuit has to say. However, Trump appointed six of the current judges — half the court, not counting senior members.

[emulatorloo]

70. Right, and DOJ carefully explained that to her in their filing.

Seems like she is in over her head or fears some deranged MAGA will murder her.

[atreides1]

81. She's repaying her debt!

She owes Trump and the Federalist Society...that's how she got the nomination...now is the time to pay back what she owes!!!

[emulatorloo]

84. She owes them nothing, she is supposed to be impartial and uphold the law.

Plenty up Trump judges upheld the law when it came to his baseless lawsuits claiming the election was stolen.

But I guess this one doesn’t see it that way.

[atreides1]

94. Plenty of them did uphold the law

Unfortunately she isn't one of them...and she comes off as stupid, because she doesn't seem to understand what the concept of Executive privilege is...even after it was explained to her by the DOJ!

Judges are suppose to be impartial and uphold the law...but as we saw with the Dobbs decision...that ideal doesn't exist among some federal jurists...yes they all took an oath...but an oath is only effective when the person taking it, intends to honor that oath!!!

[Botany]

13. "The appointment may (will) slow the pace of the department's investigation."

And that is the point. End of story.

A fucking Trump judge.

"Aileen Mercedes Cannon is a judge on the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida. She was nominated by President Donald Trump (R) on May 21, 2020, and confirmed by a U.S. Senate vote of 56-21 on November 12, 2020."

https://ballotpedia.org/Aileen_Cannon

[FoxNewsSucks]

112. A disappointing number of Democrats voted FOR her, or didn't vote at all.

[in2herbs]

15. So arrest him NOW. According to all reports there is enough evidence to arrest him on

espionage charges. If we can't get all offenders in the espionage food chain we need to get him and the American people deserve to be assured that the law applies to all.

[yankee87]

16. No surprise

45 is still the petulant man-child getting his way. Like what was said before, come on McDonalds, do your thing

[agingdem]

17. I'm thinking...so what?

the DOJ appeals, maybe...but a special master does not prohibit an indictment...a special master does not negate espionage, stealing classified documents...executive privilege does not apply to a former president...lawyer/client sort of...

should be interesting to see who Judge Trump Kiss-Ass Aileen appoints as a special master..

[in2herbs]

32. There was a former case in the USSC that Thomas was a decider on and he discussed

his thought process about how executive privilege has some application to presidents even after they leave office. So, there's a real risk of this gets to the USSC on the basis of executive privilege.

[getagrip_already]

34. It will be tough to bring an indictment without evidence....

It is essentially the same thing as conducting a search and finding nothing.

No obstruction, no espionage, no theft of govt property.

Evidence is the linchpin of an indictment.

[agingdem]

75. the DOJ has the evidence...

Garland is not going to allow Trump to walk away from this...

[getagrip_already]

83. but they can't present it to a gj or likely, in a court.....

Simple case. They seized something that is clearly att-client priv that discusses his guilt.

It would be deemed privileged and the govt couldn't even mention it. If that was all they had, it couldn't be used. They couldn't even use what was in it as the basis to investigate other avenues to get to the same point.

So with the judge refusing to allow them to use it in investigations, she has effectively stopped them cold.

The grand jury is technically an investigation forum.

[kelly1mm]

126. As of today, the order appointing the Special Master also precludes the DOJ from using those

seized documents in any prosecution until the Special Master reviews them and clears them as not being privileged.

[agingdem]

127. Garland will appeal and soon

we can express our outrage but we have no choice but to allow Garland to do his job...today is a holiday..courthouses are closed so to speak (yes, I know filings are done online)..let's see what shakes out tomorrow...

[kelly1mm]

131. Yes, the DOJ will probably appeal and it will most likely go through the 11th Circuit (R leaning)

on its way ultimately to the USSC. All the while time keeps slipping by and this process (just the Special Master appointment and review) could easily take years, and even if fast tracked it could take many months. Then, assuming the Special Master gets appointed and says 90% of the documents are not privileged. That too will get appealed which again could easily take years, and even if fast tracked it could take many months. I am certainly seeing a good possibility that we won't have a resolution to just the privilege questions on these seized documents till after the 2024 elections .....

[paleotn]

20. Doesn't matter. Closing the barn door when the horse is in the next county.

Documents were recovered. It's known what he had. For all practical purposes, this is moot and delays nothing. Appoint 10K "special masters" and nothing in the equation changes. Bad lawyers and a dumb client. Thus, what's the harm? None really.

[gab13by13]

30. Tell that to our overseas intelligence agents,

who are in the process of being outed.

What this will do is further erode the trust that our foreign allies have in us. The rest of the world is watching what is happening to our country, they get it, they indict their leaders when they commit crimes, our country protects law breakers with partisan judges.

[paleotn]

37. A quick stay and then slapped down on appeal, but regardless,....

it in no way hampers ongoing investigations. Investigations into exactly what you mentioned. Plus, we've had lunatic judges sprinkled around the country since the Republic was founded.

[packman]

21. I REALLY hope this isn't an open-ended thing

Or are we going to have another example of his , yet to be shown, tax returns. Delay, delay , delay,etc.

[gab13by13]

22. Here we are at DU

arguing over whether a traitor should be indicted within 60 days of an election when he isn't even on the ballot and meanwhile one of his fascist judges makes a totally partisan decision.

This will fucking delay things, fuck the AP writer who wrote this. Why don't they invoke executive privilege for Trump, a fucking private citizen, and then we can just allow him to keep the documents?

The Magats are playing by different rules. How many former experts were wrong in saying that judge Cannon was going to drop the special master? She is owned by Trump and we don't have a MSM that will report the truth, report what is happening, report that we are sliding into fascism.

[spudspud]

98. It's a failure of imagination all over again by these "experts." /nt

[Ponietz]

23. About Judge Cannon

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217108861

I’ll say it. It looks as though she gave Acosta advice on protecting Epstein.

[peppertree]

43. And who says crime doesn't pay!

If deSatan gets in, my money's on her being kicked up all the way to the Supreme Court.

[Submariner]

24. Lock the Special Master in a SCIF with a bottle of water

for 8 hours a day and make sure his rest breaks are a minimum.

[brooklynite]

25. "it is unlikely to affect any investigative decisions or the ultimate outcome of the probe."

[gab13by13]

51. Who is Eric Tucker? I never heard of him. Is he a Republican?

[dsc]

130. That is only true if we win in 2024

if not since this will help delay the investigation so that no indictment and trial are possible until after 2024 it will prevent the trial forever and ever and ever.

[jmowreader]

28. Expect this TrumpTweet in just a few days after the SM starts working

“The Special Master is not being given access to any of the documents I declassified after leaving office. This witch hunt must end immediately and the rightful winner of the 2020 election must be allowed to take office today!”

Or, if they find someone cleared high enough to review all the SCI Trump stole…

“The Deep State ‘special master,’ a puppet of Illegitimate So-Called President Sleepy Joe Biden, refuses to return to me all the documents I declassified after leaving office. This witch hunt must end immediately and the rightful winner of the 2020 election must be allowed to take office today!”

Six months from now, we will read this TrumpTweet:

“I’m waiting in my cold cell as the bell begins to chime. Reflecting on my past life and it doesn’t have much time for at five o’clock they take me to the gallows pole. The sands of time for me are running low thanks to Illegitimate President Sleepy Joe and the Deep State, who have always hated me. This witch hunt must end immediately and the rightful winner of the 2020 election must be allowed not only to take office immediately but I must be allowed to serve ten more terms because of all the harassment and abuse Your Favorite President has been put through!”

At 5:15 pm, the following TrumpTweet will be issued:

“Ding dong, the witch is dead. Signed, Dark Brandon.”

[orangecrush]

38. Yup.

[orangecrush]

31. Don't know what to think

I know it's bullshit, but can DOJ appeal?

How can a judge shut down a criminal investigation?

Can they have the judge sanctioned?

[getagrip_already]

44. I'm sure there Appeal is 90% done....

They needed the order to issue it.

But it's a slow.process to a conservative court. First a 3 judge panel that will take months to get to a ruling.

Best case is they side with doj and the full court and scotus decline to hear further appeals. Up to a year.

Worst case is they side with carrol, even if just partially, and then it goes to the full court and then scotus.

Years.

[Baitball Blogger]

33. Trump appointed judge comes through for Trump. Gives him a massive delay in a criminal investigation

[BlueIdaho]

36. 2 Questions

Can this be quickly appealed?

And

Who appoints the Special Bastard?

[people]

108. Who appoints the special master

Judge ordered the parties to meet and confer as to who should be the special master and, if they can't agree, each of them should submit names to her and she will decide who the special master should be and then appoint that person.

[BlueIdaho]

111. So the Trump appointed Judge will appoint a SM...

Given her track record, there is no reason to believe she will be impartial in this matter.

[oldsoftie]

40. Meaningless. The DOJ has already looked at everything they took.

idiot trump should have asked for one on the first day. But he's an idiot & he hired real estate lawyers who also didnt know to do it

[getagrip_already]

45. She ordered the doj to stop using info to prosecute....

Shuts the doj down cold.

[Novara]

50. Nope.

The appointment is likely to slow the pace of the department’s investigation into the presence of top-secret information at Mar-a-Lago given the judge’s directive that the Justice Department may not for the moment use any of the seized materials for investigative purposes. But it is not clear that it will have any significant effect on any investigative decisions or the ultimate outcome of the probe.

Emphasis mine. They can still indict.

[getagrip_already]

85. isn't the grand jury an investigation forum?

They hear evidence, ask questions, get more information, and finally vote on an indictment. But at the heart of what they do is investigate.

The doj can't present it to them, or even to a court, until the master determines if it is protected.

They are stopped colduntil an appeal goes their way and they get an injunction freeing them from the order.

[VMA131Marine]

120. They can still search his other properties too

Places she won’t have jurisdiction.

[bluestarone]

42. I'm hoping that, IF there was ever a time for a fast appeal (FINAL appeal)

THIS is the time!

[Novara]

46. Guys, this isn't for executive privilege - he doesn't have that. This is for ...

... attorney-client privilege, and it doesn't apply in the commission of crimes.

There's a good chance the DOJ ALREADY KNOWS which crimes are included in the material. They've already reviewed it themselves and they know what evidence of criming is there. They don't have to stop their review because they've already completed it.

However, it does slow shit down because I would assume this special master person needs to be vetted for security clearance. For this reason alone this decision is a complete farce. The fact that the material has already been reviewed just adds to the farce.

I want to see if Garland has the guts to indict now or let himself be pushed around by this baby-man's tantrums. I'm hoping for the former but I'm afraid of the latter.

[getagrip_already]

93. uhmm, no, she specifically said for EP......

It doesn't matter what the law is apparently, she ruled it so.

Maybe it will get changed on appeal. But that could take a year.

[Novara]

141. Doesn't matter what this idiot judge SAID, executive privilege rests with the executive, Joe Biden

Ummm, no. That is the law. A judge can't change the law.

This will be appealed.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

47. This ruling will be appealed

Link to tweet

[Tadpole Raisin]

48. She wants to advance as a judge in future R administrations and wouldn't

if she rejected the request.

May an appeal court slap her down for stupidity.

[Paladin]

53. Fuck this shit. (nt)

[gab13by13]

59. Well said,

I should be golfing but it's raining.

When will people understand that the tactic is to delay, it has nothing to do with evidence. There is more than enough evidence to indict Trump on obstruction re: the stolen documents and lying to the FBI. This decision puts a hold on that.

[wildman76]

56. So outrageous, judge should be recused from case

[Traildogbob]

63. Can a judge

Be charged with obstruction, collusion and accessory to espionage??
I know the answer, Justice and laws only apply to minions that pay the salaries of all these traitorous pricks from local government to the Fucking top.
Fuck the National Anthem, Fuck the Pledge, and even seeing the flag anymore only makes me feel nauseous of GQP MAGA’s taking it over. It would not surprise me anymore if the Military arrests all Dems in power and installs trump for life with his slimy spawn appointments to every position. MTG will be AG.
I am afraid we slept way too long over the last 50+ years to ever wake. This is what we WOKE up to. This damn AMERIKKKa.

[Heather MC]

57. A Judge that was appointed AFTER TRUMP LOST

How convenient

[Ponietz]

58. McConnell put her there as a safety valve

[Heather MC]

61. Mcconnell is worst than Trump.

He gets to be slee,y in background will Trump is the loud distraction

He and Lenard Leo are responsible for the horrible White Supremacist Court
err Supreme Court

[Kablooie]

60. Trump will have a hayday with this.

He will get a MAGA jerk to keep this spinning in the courts until after 2024 when he expects to be president again.

It’s way to early to celebrate his downfall. It still may never come.

[SheltieLover]

64. There is no such thing fof high level classified material

[moonshinegnomie]

65. indict him for obstruction now

no need to know the actual contents of any documents. he was subpoenaed to deliver any docs marked classified. he refused and so they got the search warrant.

it doesnt matter the contents of the docs ,he failed to turn them over despite an subpoena. thats obstruction
arrest him and hold him without bail as a flight risk

[Justice matters.]

99. AGREED. Clearly an Obstruction of Justice case.

Whether his dirty underwears were subpoenaed by the DOJ or his love letters to Kim Jung Un is irrelevant.

He refused to send them back when ordered to. The legal procedure is to obey the subpoena and THEN litigate to get them back all he wanted up to the supremely corrupt six to his treasonous heart's content.

Charge the orange danger to National Security and democracy NOW. Bring him in and interrogate him about what he did with the missing documents and why he stole them, and refused to comply with the DOJ Subpoena (and he better not LIE again).

[Raven123]

67. Ami I correct in believing the affidavit request was ignored?

Not sure how big a deal this is . No indictment likely until after the 2022 election, anyway. Intelligence review continues. No matter what she rules, it’s possible they may develop evidence regarding the espionage case just through this review.

The question will be how fast the special master is forced to act.

[ET Awful]

71. If he has personal documents intermingled

With classified government documents, wouldn't that, in itself, help prove a case for mishandling of classified materials?

[WestMichRad]

87. Ya think??!!

[orangecrush]

72. She'll probably appoint Putin

[getagrip_already]

91. has to be someone not connected to either party....

But that doesn't mean there aren't magats all over the country with legal degrees and security clearances.

Mike flynn's brother, people of millers staff, former doj toadies.

Lots of places she can find a worm.

[EndlessWire]

102. She's gonna pick the SM

from amongst the list of proposed candidates. I'll bet that the two lists will be so opposed that we will see her pick someone from Plaintiff's list, stating what's the harm...and then she'll get to confer with the SM and rule in his favor.

Somewhere in those papers it was stated that the SM could be vetted for clearances, which would account for a substantial delay. That's not how it should work. I am also concerned with paper duplication. There should be no copying of papers.

In view of this tainted process, which of course I am only anticipating, I say we ask Hillary to serve. I rally trust no one now, but I trust her. I'd take Bill, but I don't think he looks well.

The SM will be no one we've ever met before.

[orangecrush]

106. I'm sure Garland anticipated this

And I'm also sure he has a few cards up his sleeve.

[colorado_ufo]

74. Well well well.

Surprise, surprise.

[mn9driver]

76. SSDD

[vlyons]

77. Well that sucks!

Delay delay delay

[mahatmakanejeeves]

78. Popehat discusses the decision at length (well, for a Twitter account).

I don’t think the absolute freakout over this is warranted. I don’t think it’s the right outcome, equitably, but numerous elements of the written decision don’t support it being the catastrophe people are saying. But there seems to be very little point in saying so.

Link to tweet

[Nasruddin]

96. Supreme Court

What this does is it gets the case caught in the gears of our ponderous judicial system.
Which was probably going to happen eventually anyway, but maybe it would have been better after the indictment.

The best thing that could happen is that the investigation is delayed for months or perhaps even years while litigation over appeals and findings takes place.

The worst thing that could happen is that the eventual arrival of the case before the SC could allow this partisan band to find a way to rule in such strong favor of Trump's position that the evidence is impossible to use - in other words, exonerating him.

[orangecrush]

82. Hey, I have an idea!

Search the rest of his properties!

[Ponietz]

100. Doubling down every time is the only sensible strategy

Use the ratchet and tighten.

[orangecrush]

104. I'm sure Garland anticipated this

And I'll bet he has a few cards up his sleeve.

[dalton99a]

122. +1. Just do it.

Clearly there is reasonable cause

[KS Toronado]

90. LOCK HER UP...........Judge Aileen Cannon

[SunSeeker]

133. I believe the proper spelling is Judge Aileen Qannon. nt

[KS Toronado]

136. Sorry my mistake, I'll do better next time.

[lees1975]

101. Corrupt judge

she was doing the guy who appointed her a favor. Should be removed from the bench.

[Polybius]

115. Very hard to prove though

A Bush judge may have done the same thing. Removal won't happen.

[GreenWave]

103. Appoint a special master to review her bank accounts and contacts on this case

[orangecrush]

107. This

[DallasNE]

110. "What. Is The Harm"

The FBI announced that they would be fingerprinting each item to see who may have had access to the data. That takes time when 11,000 items are involved. Will the Special Master and staff know how to handle the material without compromising the fingerprints and possible DNA? Inadvertent alteration of evidence is still obstruction. Who would want the job under the circumstances?

[calimary]

114. I've heard of thank-you notes. But THIS is ridiculous!

She was appointed to that bench by trump. She got that job from him. he asked forAnd the first chance she gets, she gives him the favorable ruling he asked for (and was probably expecting because of his sense of eternal entitlement). I CANNOT see this as anything but a thank-you note to her "benefactor."

[BlueJac]

117. Fuck it arrest the asshole now!

[ificandream]

118. Unfrickingbelieveable

I honestly thought Trump's request was too ridiculous to be accepted. Totally insane.

[machoneman]

121. Look, the military, the CIA, the FBI and Garland will never allow a special master to look at all..

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..the top secret docs TFG stole. No way, Jose! Instead, they will take this up the line and stuff this dork of a judge to the nether regions. Besides, unless they have total control of a master even if they agree, no way these docs are seen by anyone TFG agrees too. Game, set, match!

[Wednesdays]

124. The SCOTUS: "Hold my beer!"

[cstanleytech]

125. The judge should clearly have recused herself from the case as she

clearly had a conflict of interest as Trump nominated her.
28 U.S. Code § 455
Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.

[onenote]

147. Nope.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157.30.0.pdf

[cstanleytech]

148. Fine I will amend it and say in my opinion she should have recused herself from the case as her

ruling in my opinion smells like an attempt to obstruct the investigation as payment to Trump for nominating her.

[dalton99a]

128. Trump will get a happy ending from this one

[Bayard]

129. Does Hillary Clinton still have her security clearance?

[AntiFascist]

132. MAGAt intimidation of an ignorant judge appeared to work, in this case n/t

[JI7]

137. No intimidation. She is MAGA Trash herself

[AntiFascist]

139. She is also a pure IDIOT! This is the idiocracy many of us were concerned about...

and Trump and is the worst IDIOT of them all, leading the rest of the MAGAt idiots!

[867-5309.]

135. Delay, then claim "deep state special master"

is part of the witch hunt.

[LudwigPastorius]

138. Judge Aileen Cannon is a member of the Taint Team.

...licking Trump's taint in the hope that he returns to the White House to finish turning this country into a theocratic dictatorship and giving her a seat on the Supreme Court.

[truthisfreedom]

140. We need another judge to look at this.

I wanna see two judges duking it out over this nonsense.

[zanana1]

142. And he slithers away again.

[spike jones]

145. Copied from someone many months ago. "The Judiciary branch is strong and will hold."

‘A few weeks ago, a dear old friend, a Republican-appointed federal judge, trying to console me during a moment of despair about the future of our country, said to me “The Judiciary branch is strong and will hold.” When I expressed skepticism, he leaned toward me, looked me dead in the eye, and said as firmly as he could without shouting: “We are strong and WE. WILL. HOLD.” ...

Oh wow, did he say hold or fold?
‘
Me now, if it does not hold, democracy is dead in USA.

[UT_democrat]

146. Cool

I'm sure this is just all part of the 3-D chess game that is being played. Or... we have already jumped the shark and its all over but the shouting. Oh well, Just vote.