Elected officials, police chiefs on leaked Oath Keepers list
Source: Associated Press
The names of hundreds of U.S. law enforcement officers, elected officials and military members appear on the leaked membership rolls of a far-right extremist group thats accused of playing a key role in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol, according to a report released Wednesday.
The Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism pored over more than 38,000 names on leaked Oath Keepers membership lists and identified more than 370 people it believes currently work in law enforcement agencies including as police chiefs and sheriffs and more than 100 people who are currently members of the military.
It also identified more than 80 people who were running for or served in public office as of early August. The membership information was compiled into a database published by the transparency collective Distributed Denial of Secrets.
The data raises fresh concerns about the presence of extremists in law enforcement and the military who are tasked with enforcing laws and protecting the U.S. Its especially problematic for public servants to be associated with extremists at a time when lies about the 2020 election are fueling threats of violence against lawmakers and institutions.
Read more: https://apnews.com/article/police-law-enforcement-agencies-government-and-politics-2ca4195ed3a10e45dd189bf98f3e5a26
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)But it's a good start!!!
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)ZonkerHarris
(24,228 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)orleans
(34,053 posts)and mostly i'm not seeing anyone specific -- just a councilman in wisconsin or one town justice in new york and all such vague generalities like that. maybe i'm not looking in the right spot?
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/oath-keepers-data-leak-unmasking-extremism-public-life
on edit: never mind. i don't know what the hell i'm looking at. forget i was here.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,004 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,597 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,692 posts)Well, not that shocked.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,692 posts)LoisB
(7,206 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,692 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts).... 900,000. If everyone on this list were "active" members (they are not), and everyone on it were LEO (they are not) that would amount to less than 5%. The actual percentage, according to the leaked numbers, is less than 1/2 of 1%.
In fact, the "active" membership, as opposed to folks who signed up for a news letter ten years ago, is probably around 5000.
This is pretty piss poor for a group that focuses recruitment on LEO, military, and first responders, especially since these populations seem to have a large right wing bias to begin with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_Keepers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States#:~:text=There%20are%20more%20than%20900%2C000,percent%20of%20those%20are%20women.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,692 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... of liberal democrats who are LEO. But it is not true that the "membership lists are FULL of active-duty military", nor were they full of active duty LEO, nor is the organization anywhere near significant in numbers compared to the number of LEOs, let alone the number of military personal.
Fearful speculation is unwarranted. Characterizing the police as anti-American right wing insurrectionist supporters is unwarranted.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,692 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... is to keep my opinions within the boundaries established by facts.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,692 posts)Hekate
(90,704 posts)Captain Zero
(6,806 posts)Check our local police forces and politicians.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)The sidebar has links and instructions for downloading. Let us know what you find.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)Disgusted, but not surprised.
Duppers
(28,123 posts)We have thought this; it's now proven.
Authoritarian types/ authoritarian thinking is at the heart of the Republican party.
Lonestarblue
(9,998 posts)Nothing was seemingly done after that other than to step up recruitment. We will not be rid of these issues until we rid ourselves of the right-wing media that convinces people that they are victims of black people and liberals, who are somehow taking away their rights. The only right they can identify as being taken away is their right to treat others like crap. Otherwise, their racism and hatred of government just festers until violence comes out.m
Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)Link to tweet
After Racist Massacre in Buffalo, Senate GOP Blocks Domestic Terrorism Bill
"There are a lot of MAGA Republicans for whom no amount of gun violence... will ever, ever convince them to take any action," said Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.
JAKE JOHNSON
CommonDreams.Org, May 26, 2022
Less than two weeks after a white supremacist gunned down 10 Black people at a grocery store in Buffalo, New York, Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked legislation aimed at combating domestic terrorism in the United Statesspecifically the growing threat posed by neo-Nazis and white nationalists.
The final vote on the House-passed legislation was 47-47, with every Senate Republican in attendance voting no. At least 60 yes votes were needed to overcome the filibuster and advance to a final vote on the bill.
Every Senate Democrat who cast a vote supported the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act, which proposed ensuring that federal agencies have the resources needed to detect and prevent "acts of domestic terrorism and white supremacist and neo-Nazi infiltration of law enforcement and corrections agencies."
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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/26/after-racist-massacre-buffalo-senate-gop-blocks-domestic-terrorism-bill
So, why is it that we Democrats cant end the filibuster, only Republicans?
One of my beefs about that is that it has gotten them 3 Putin-approved picks on the Supreme Court, all pro-NRA gunhumpers, if not openly White Power advocates.
Backstory:
Why We Don't Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists
Conservatives Fired The Guy Studying Them in 2009
Why Dont We Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists?
Conservatives Fired The Guy Studying Them
JAMESON PARKER
AddictingInfo, JUNE 18, 2015 4:41 PM
After a mass shooting at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, left nine people dead and a right-wing white supremacist arrested, the country once again faces the uneasy question of just how many so-called home-grown terrorists are out there heavily armed, ideologically driven, and violent.
Its a good question, but it may be tough to answer because for reasons that are astoundingly dimwitted, the Department of Homeland Security pushed out the guy who was in charge of watching them, and dismantled his team all the way back in 2009.
The beleaguered hero of this story is Daryl Johnson, a top government counterterrorism analyst working at Homeland Security who spent six years with the agency amassing a wealth of data on far-right extremist groups that posed various degrees of threat to citizens in the United States. In 2009, in the months after President Obama assumed office, he watched as these groups veered even further right, and began to fear that Americas first African-American president could be the catalyst of a major uptick in hate crimes and anti-government attacks.
In a landmark report released just months into Obamas term, and now looks downright clairvoyant, Johnson made the case that radical Islam is only a small piece of the terrorism pie:
Do not overlook other types of terrorist groups, the report warned, noting that five purely domestic groups had considered using weapons of mass destruction in that period. Similar warnings have been issued by the two principal non-government groups that track domestic terrorism: the New York-based Anti-Defamation League and the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.
An annual tally by the latter group of what it calls Terror From the Right listed 13 major incidents and arrests last year, nearly double the annual number in previous years; the group also reported the number of hate groups had topped 1,000 in 2010, for the first time in at least two decades.
In response to that report, Johnson was destroyed. It wasnt his integrity or claims that got him in trouble, his facts were solid. Instead, it was the inconvenient truth that much of the threat comes from right-wing conservatives, and even more awkwardly, radical right-wing conservatives who say and think a lot of the same things mainstream right-wing conservatives say and think.
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/
That was from 2015.
Internet Archive Waybac, if link doesnt work:
http://web.archive.org/web/20150910045015/http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/
Absolutely been their people since Lees surrender at Appomattox.
Evolve Dammit
(16,736 posts)ancianita
(36,058 posts)Sheriffs can't be removed just because of associations with groups, even militias like Oathkeepers.
cbabe
(3,543 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,736 posts)AverageOldGuy
(1,528 posts)Make the list public.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)The sidebar has links and instructions for downloading. Let us know what you find.
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)(had tried to post about an hour ago and got pulled away )
70sEraVet
(3,503 posts)The Oath-Keepers want to be a military organization? Fine. Let the Oath-Keepers pay these guys' pensions and disability payments. The VA and the military can wash their hands of them!
Traildogbob
(8,744 posts)ancianita
(36,058 posts)rights of association. Even the military code of justice probably wouldn't apply to vets. Hell, they won't even call Flynn out of retirement to be court-martialed.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... only about 100 folks on the list were identified as active military.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)In the past they've announced they are allied with each other.
We have a big problem here in America when cops in substantial numbers have openly joined fascist organizations.
Martin68
(22,803 posts)disqualify anyone from holding any public office or job.
msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)ancianita
(36,058 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)ancianita
(36,058 posts)monitor mobilizations of militia groups. If they commit crimes, they'll be arrested. If they conspire to commit crimes, they'll be arrested. But their simply being in these groups is still a protected constitutional right.
Some reddit people or others might get hold of these lists, and check their veracity; they might even list some names, but that could be generally seen as doxxing. It would be like the Republicans getting hold of all the Democrats' registrations and publishing their names in media and then, based on their belief that we're enablers of baby killing adrenachrome freaks, coming after us.
Do Americans have freedom of association or not?
As long as people are free to associate and even join secret societies and do nothing illegal, there's no point in criminalizing them. There's also no point in getting upset that they get away with joining associations with bad intent. There is a point in knowing they're out there and keeping vigilant.
Do a Google search on the OP and you'll see that nowhere do voanews.com, or twitter or abcactionnews list actual names from these databases. Call any local news desk and ask why they don't print names.
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Far+right+Oath+Keepers+group+had+bigger+presence+in+Sarasota%2FManatee+than+previously+known&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
hadEnuf
(2,191 posts)We need to identify them and get them out!
Marthe48
(16,963 posts)same goals, same twisted outlook. The automatic weapons are new.
Hope they members of oath keepers are rooted out of the public institutions they hired into. I imagine they would be happier if they were being hypocrites every day of their lives.