General Staff: Russia has lost 51,900 troops in Ukraine since Feb. 24.

[samsingh]

Source: Kyiv Independent

General Staff: Russia has lost 51,900 troops in Ukraine since Feb. 24. Ukraine’s General Staff reported on Sept. 9 that Russia had also lost 2,122 tanks, 4,575 armored fighting vehicles, 3,399 vehicles and fuel tanks, 1,237 artillery systems, 306 multiple launch rocket systems, 159 air defense systems, 239 airplanes, 211 helicopters, 884 drones, and 15 boats.

Read more: https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/general-staff-russia-has-lost-51-900-troops-in-ukraine-since-feb-24

[Wingus Dingus]

1. Approaching US Vietnam numbers after only 6 months.

Insanity.

[brush]

4. Exactly what I was thinking. If true I don't see how Russia can sustain...

that rate of loss for much longer.

[underpants]

5. "Genius" remember?

I was just going to post that they’ve lost 51,000 in basically 6 1/2 months. We lost 58,220 in all of Vietnam. Amazing.

[regnaD kciN]

16. This is, of course, Ukraine's estimate...

…of its adversary’s losses, and thus is likely to be somewhat higher than the real number. By contrast, Russia is probably reporting only a couple of thousand lost (and, since all media there is now under state control, who’s going to question it?).

[Warpy]

18. Just pointed that out on another thread

What I find amazing about this list is the number of aircraft, drones, helicopters and planes. Ukraine didn't have much of an air force, so this is truly remarkable.

Then again, I remember a video from the beginning of the war, showing them shooting down a helicopter gunship with an anti tank missile, something that made my jaw hit the floor, so I don't know why I find this so surprising. Ukrainian forces have been thinking way outside the box from the beginning.

I just hope this mess is over before winter gets going so civilians can be cared for.

And congratulations to Putin and his Wormtongue Dugin for creating a totally hostile state on their border. Well done, ya dumb bastards.

[GB_RN]

30. The Javelin Missile System...

While primarily billed as an anti-tank missile system (using a top-down flight attack path, hitting the target where the armor is weaker/weakest), is also designed to be able to take out targets in a direct flight attack flight path. This was originally intended to be used against hardened targets like bunkers, but obviously works well against low, slow flying aircraft like helicopters. The HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank) warhead will definitely make short work of a lightly armored aircraft, as you’ve seen.

St. Javelin, indeed.

[Warpy]

34. I think it was a Starsky video

that examined what was left of it, and there wasn't much that was recognizable. Only a couple of bent rotor blades gave a clue as to what it might have once been.

Nasty. Quick, but nasty.

[BigDemVoter]

22. That is EXACTLY what I was just about to post. . . .

Can you imagine these losses in just six months? Wow. . . .

I know the USA lost approximately 420,000 total in WW2. I wonder what our losses looked like at 6 months into WW2? This is really incredible.

[GB_RN]

31. The Russians Lost Millions In That Same Time Span...

During WWII, even as we supplied them with tanks and weapons, Russia still relied on outdated tactics and literally threw bodies at the problem. They resorted to overwhelming the Germans with superior numbers, but at enormous cost in casualties.

Hell, the bastards even shot their own people to keep them from retreating. 🤷‍♂️

[jeffreyi]

33. To say nothing of Stalin's purges and the mass starvations.

Millions of people. Mind boggling.

[melm00se]

35. The US lost

6600/month during WWII.

The largest single month of US deaths among battle casualties was December 1944 with 18,389 (Battle of the Bulge). 1944 was the deadliest year for American forces with 126,170 deaths among battle casualties. This was driven mainly by D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge but also the island hopping campaign in the Pacific including the Marianas and Palau Islands.

[grumpyduck]

2. Ol' Vlad ain't gonna be too happy

about his General Staff reporting those numbers.

[GregariousGroundhog]

15. I suspect a lot of those kills are not Russian military personnel

Russia supplies a plurality of the manpower used by the invasion of Ukraine; there are also the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, Chechen regiments, and Wagner Group mercenaries as well. The LPR and DPR had 44,000 volunteer soldiers between them at the start of the war, but their numbers have grown as many Ukranian adult males in the occupied territories have been forcibly conscripted, given three to five days training, and and thrown into combat with old, obsolete equipment. Those conscripts have been used as cannon fodder, and probably represent a disproportionate number of casualties.

[groundloop]

17. Those number were reported by Ukraine's General Staff..... therefore might be on the high side

[CanonRay]

3. Probably X2 wounded as well, plus captured.

that's 150,000 men out of commission. That was before this most recent breakthrough.

[Ford_Prefect]

6. ...And 2 significant ships.

[Botany]

7. I have heard it is 80,000 a month ago.

Kill every fucking Russian who is still fighting.

[niyad]

8. Slava Ukraini! Thank you for the update.

[Evolve Dammit]

9. Is it worth it to Vlad the Great? Sadly, he's all in. What's next dare I ask? "May you live in

interesting times?" I would love to be bored again...

[C_U_L8R]

10. The troops would have better prospects if they turned on Putin

Many could be making that same realization. We'll see. After all, revolution is in their blood.

[getagrip_already]

11. The kill to wounded ratio is usually 3:1......

But since russia doesn't really treat it's wounded, lets say it's 2:1 (many that would have survived die where they fell).

That is still 150k troops killed or injured. they started the war with less than 200k troops committed.

They have lost > 75% of their starting forces. That is just amazing.

[Joe Nation]

12. Why are the Russian people allowing Putin to kill their children?

This is a state run amok. This tyrant has to be brought down.

[getagrip_already]

25. They don't know......

Putin has an absolute grip on the media and a good part of the net.

They don't notify most families of Kia troops. They don't even pick up bodies or the wounded for the most part.

It's all good. All the time.

[KS Toronado]

13. I'd lay odds the numbers are double what they reported.

[WinstonSmith4740]

26. I'll back that bet.

I'll bet the real numbers are much higher. I learned a hard lesson years ago (1972) when visiting family in Germany. My uncle was a bird colonel who's security rating was higher than I thought. He got a phone call one evening, and all I heard was a bunch of cursing on his end. After he hung up and had poured himself a drink, he said, "Well, we lost 7 planes and 20 men today." I said something like "Oh, shit". He then looked me straight in the eyes and told me the American people had no idea what our losses were. That those 7 planes and 20 men would be reported as 3 planes and 12 men in the news. That's when I learned that our military was only reporting about 1/2 of our losses. It was a bullet between the eyes. It's also when I found out how much the military hated that damn war. Let's just say that my uncle and I had a very interesting conversation that night.

So yeah...no doubt in my mind that Russian losses are WAY higher than they're reporting.

[IronLionZion]

14. It's time for Russians to turn against Putin

Maybe he can experience the window flu

[Coventina]

23. Or a panty poisoning....

[Chainfire]

19. The Russians lost 27 million people in WWII and came out on top.

I doubt that 52K human causalities really shakes Putin. The Material losses may be a different story. You can't comb out the prisons to get a new tank.

[ck4829]

20. I actually feel sorry for Russians

The Kremlin pretty much has the attitude of the average day-to-day Russian person of "You're just meat, you're just a mark in a log, you're cannon fodder, a means to an end, that's all you are to us"

And that average Russian person, what is their response?

"YES!"

"... yes."

[Historic NY]

21. That Vietnam era numbers.

Is anyone in Russia noticing? I think there is +650 more too

[Captain Zero]

27. Correct.US KIA in 16 years in Vietnam.

Since just February for Russia.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Three Afghanistans (10 yrs) in 6 months

The war began in December 1979, and lasted until February 1989. About 15,000 Soviet soldiers were killed, and about 35,000 were wounded. About two million Afghan civilians were killed. The anti-government forces had support from many countries, mainly the United States and Pakistan.

[SunSeeker]

24. Putin is responsible for their deaths.

And for turning them into war criminals.

[Jarqui]

28. The deaths and disabling of the Vietnam soldiers

was a significant driver of our protests to end that war.

At over ten times the pace of deaths as the Vietnam war, I'm sure Putin is trying to keep a lid on it - declaring them MIA, etc. But eventually, no matter what he does, Russians missing family will join the dots.

[GB_RN]

32. Normal Percentage Of Actual Fighting Troops In A Military Is Usually...

10-15% of the total number of troops, with the remainder being support staff, according to what I’ve read from former military guys over on Daily Kos. Assuming that’s accurate with the Russian army total fighting troops would have been around 20-30k out of a 200k initial troop buildup. Ergo, they’re taking devastating losses behind the lines. As we know that Russia has been get hammered in their supply columns, this is pretty much a given that their logistics and support people are paying a fairly high price for this war, too.