"As Far as I'm Concerned, That's the End of It': Skeptical Special Master Presses Trump's Lawyers on

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Source: Law & Crime (Dan Abrams Production)

After the FBI found highly classified documents inside his Mar-a-Lago home, former President Donald Trump sought review of the materials by a special master. Now that his choice for that position has been appointed, Trump's attorneys struggled in their efforts to have the review process play out in the way they prefer.


On Tuesday, a skeptical Senior U.S. District Judge Raymond Dearie pressed Trump's lawyers repeatedly on their refusal to disclose whether he declassified any of the documents he brought to Mar-a-Lago -- and if so, which ones.

"The government gives me prima facie evidence that these are classified documents," Dearie said, referring to the plain markings on the records. "As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it."

Dearie gave Trump's lawyer James Trusty ample opportunity to explain why his consideration shouldn't end there.

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/trump/as-far-as-im-concerned-thats-the-end-of-it-skeptical-special-master-presses-trumps-lawyers-on-declassification-evasions-at-hearing/

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H/t to Letmypeoplevote for the link to this Politico piece:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/20/trump-special-master-judge-mar-a-lago-00057805

[Happy Hoosier]

1. LOL. I love it. Go Judge Dearie! NT

[LetMyPeopleVote]

2. Special Master expresses skepticism with Trump team's assertions

I could not get onto the call in for the special hearing and evidently the people who were on the call were not muted. One person wat at the hearing and here is their report

Link to tweet

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/20/trump-special-master-judge-mar-a-lago-00057805

NEW YORK — The senior federal judge tasked with reviewing the materials seized by the FBI from Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate sharply questioned the former president’s attorneys Tuesday during their first hearing before his courtroom.

Judge Raymond Dearie pushed Trump’s lawyers repeatedly for refusing to back up the former president’s claim that he declassified the highly sensitive national security-related records discovered in his residence.

“You can’t have your cake and eat it too,” said Dearie, the “special master” picked by U.S. District Court Judge Aileen Cannon to vet Trump’s effort to reclaim the materials taken by federal investigators.

Trump has argued that the 11,000 documents taken from Mar-a-Lago were rightfully in his possession, including about 100 bearing classification markings that suggest they contain some of the nation’s most closely guarded intelligence.

[Hekate]

7. You have just made my day

[LaMouffette]

12. I bet the bloated Traitor Trump's ears pricked up at the word "cake," though.

[EndlessWire]

21. LOL! n/t

[sprinkleeninow]

29. Also, he like heavily battered and deep fried in lard creme filled sponge cakes.

[reACTIONary]

36. The Twinkie defense???? nt

[Lonestarblue]

3. Whoever suggested Judge Dearie to Trump will now be in for a load of venom from him.

His lawyers sound like they know Grump has no case and they’re just trying to avoid lying to a judge. Why any lawyer would work for Trump is a mystery now since association with him now marks one as a corrupt attorney. I seem to remember reading somewhere a few weeks ago that some Trump administration lawyers and aides were having a tough time finding new jobs. I suppose the Federalist Society can’t hire all of them.

[Initech]

4. Live footage of Trump right now:

[SunSeeker]

50. And his attorneys have the worst fucking client. nt

[ificandream]

5. Woo hoo....

Trump thought every lawyer can be bought for him. He was wrong. Lovin' it!!!

[JohnSJ]

6. Problem is as I understand it, Canon can still override the special master. That is why the DOJ is

pursuing the appeal

[EndlessWire]

23. Yeah.

She is so obviously pro T****. She set it up so she has absolute control over the outcome. Right away, they challenged Dearie and are seeking to control the timeline. I don't think they expected Dearie to be so swift.

I think we may have a problem, but it sure won't look good if she immediately replaces Dearie with T****'s other candidate, without considering the Government's candidates.

[azureblue]

35. at this point

she won't dare remove him - it will look like that she is interfering with the case to alter the outcome. And that in itself will get the case taken away from her. I'm going to bet somebody has already spoken truth to her -"You tried to spin this for Trump, and it backfired, because you made your reasons out of nothing. You are already on very thin ice, and you better do something to save yourself. And dumping Dearie, or negating his findings, will make it even worse for you."

[Bengus81]

46. Yep....I agree 100%. Another Saturday night massacre.

[BonnieJW]

54. But

No one has ever accused a Trump attorney of being the sharpest arrow in the quiver. I'm sure that applies to this judge as well

[bluestarone]

33. Correct! Now

It will be PROOF that she is 100% TRUMPY! (not that it matters, but it matters to ME)

[modrepub]

39. You'd Think She'd Defer

to a (semi-retired active) judge who has much more experience than she does. At least that's what most sane competent people would do...

[JohnSJ]

44. Key sentence "what most sane competent people would do..."

[Captain Zero]

56. She's a Dunning-Kruger judge

She's too dumb to know how incompetent she really is.

[JohnSJ]

57. I think it is ideology over the law, and that makes her unqualified

[lark]

55. Yes. expect Loose Cannon to intervene.

They are not giving the deference to tfg over the constitution or over facts and LC cannot have that. Cannon will try to take charge and take a really long time and then say it's all executive privilege and order it given back to frumpf - watch.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

8. Now they're going to ask for a special special master to check Dearie's work.

It's like changing the rules until you get the results you want, which is what the GQP has been doing since the 2020 election

[Evolve Dammit]

10. Since 2000

[dalton99a]

11. +1

[housecat]

19. check Cannon

[EndlessWire]

24. HaHaHa!!

An "SSM." Or, "S2M." Then, when he also doesn't like the classified doc angle, we could get "S3M." Eventually we'd get, "SSSSSM," or thereabouts, pending the way the facts roll.

[littlemissmartypants]

47. They should have skipped straight to BDSM. nt

[EndlessWire]

49. LOL! n/t

[azureblue]

37. Dearie is on to them

That's why he set the Oct deadline. He will not tolerate delaying tactics and he as much as said so today. And Cannon knows she is screwed if she gets any more involved. Both sides agreed on Dearie, so that is that.

[Ray Bruns]

52. Is that like being under "double secret probation"?

[scarletlib]

9. Do you think she would want to intervene at this point?

Maybe just let Judge Dearie handle that hot potato she baked.

[TexasBushwhacker]

13. Sounds like the judge doesn't believe in TFG's magic wand

He doesn't get to wave his magic wand over thousands of documents and declare them "declassified".

[EndlessWire]

25. The magic weeny...n/t

[Cha]

14. DT's lawyer.. James "Trusty".. you

can't make up this shit.

“The government gives me prima facie evidence that these are classified documents,” Dearie said, referring to the plain markings on the records. “As far as I’m concerned, that’s the end of it.”

I hope it is the end of DT trying to Weasel out of his treason!

[Obvious85]

15. How quickly can we DUMP CANNON

She is a traitor to this country

[Submariner]

16. Someone else who doesn't take any Malarkey

from sniveling amateur Mango ambulance chasers.

[CentralMass]

17. This sound very promising. Hiwever I wonder what the Mango Malefactor will do bext to stall.

[Fiendish Thingy]

18. Cannon fires Dearie in 3,2,1...nt

[wnylib]

30. Think we could have another Saturday Night Massacre?

Didn't work so well for Nixon.

We can't count in Cannon for any facsimile of justice, so we will have to follow the appeals to see the outcome on this.

[Orrex]

20. I confess that I didn't expect it to play out that way.

I thought it would drag for months, but it appears to have fizzled even before a deadline could be set!

[Deep State Witch]

22. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Another "win" for TFG!

[wnylib]

31. So much winning.

[Bayard]

26. Rut roh......

I think I could get to love this Dearie judge! I didn't think this would play out in an actual courtroom.

[wnylib]

32. Wish that he was the judge handling the case and not

just a special master who will be out of the picture very soon.

[EndlessWire]

27. Thank you, OP, for posting this info...n/t

[kacekwl]

28. As far as I'm concerned that's the end of it

should have been every judges response to every trump bullshit filing.

[bluestarone]

34. THIS could be a HUGE message to the

11th. circuit!! ( )

[riversedge]

40. Trumpy's in trouble. yah!!

[Aussie105]

41. The writing is on the wall.

An ex-potus can't retrospectively declassify documents.

Nor can he claim retrospective executive privilege.

The fact that he is a deposed dictator and now just another private citizen seems to escape some slower thinking individuals in the population.

Where is that clip of Marlon Brandon crying "Ï coulda been a contender!"?

[WestMichRad]

42. Trump's real defense is:

1. I never conceded the 2020 election, so I’m still president and can claim executive privilege. And declassify any records I want to.
2. I never agreed to the Presidential Records Act, so it doesn’t apply to me. Any and all records created during my time in the White House are my own personal records.

(sarcasm… I think!)

[Bengus81]

45. Trump conceded yesterday after the Queen's funeral

Trump took the opportunity to mock the president, writing on his Truth Social, his social-media platform, on Monday: "If I were president, they wouldn't have sat me back there."



Stupid FUCK!!

[calimary]

51. What a petty little piss-ant.

[The Jungle 1]

53. It is good to know his mental health treatment is working.

I also read that someone gave him Enchroma glasses. (color blind glasses)
Apparently he did not know he is orange.

[EndlessWire]

43. You know

that, since Dearie gave T****'s attorneys chances to provide the info he asked them for, which they declined to do, and since he said, "As far as I'm concerned that's the end of it," that T**** is now saddled with the fact that he had control of classified docs. !!! I don't know if they can run back to Cannon and file for relief on that. I'm not sure how the SM decision reflects back up to the 11th Circuit, but can't the Government now point to the SM decision as supporting their claim?

We won this day, for sure. I think it was a mistake for "T****'s Team" to defy the SM. I think it is possible that now they will belatedly provide some stupid argument for declassification, but it seems like Dearie doesn't plan to revisit the issue. And I like the way he characterized the docs as "prima facie evidence." I believe that shifts the burden onto T****, and apparently they have nothing. I guess they could contrive an artificial delaying argument to waste time, and that they don't care how stupid they look. $3 million bucks, baby...

[LiberalFighter]

48. They didn't show a photo of the idiot licking the documents?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

58. Dearie asks Trump lawyers whether they believe FBI lied about seized documents

The special master is going to force TFG's attorneys to answer some key questions. This will be fun

Link to tweet

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/22/dearie-trump-order-declassify/

The Mar-a-Lago special master on Thursday ordered Donald Trump’s lawyers to state in a court filing whether they believe FBI agents lied about documents seized from the former president’s Florida residence in a court-authorized search last month, or claimed to have taken items that were not actually in Trump’s possession.

In a Thursday afternoon filing, U.S. District Judge Raymond J. Dearie — the special master — told Trump’s legal team to state by Sept. 30 whether they believe any of the seized items were incorrectly described in the Justice Department’s 11-page inventory list, which said some of the documents were highly classified.

Dearie also told them to say whether they are claiming that any items on the inventory list were not in fact taken from the premises.

Trump has said on social media and in television interviews that the FBI planted items when they searched his Mar-a-Lago residence and private club on Aug. 8. He also claimed to have declassified documents found in that search that were marked classified and were highly sensitive. His lawyers have not made similar assertions in court, however, instead saying they have not reviewed the seized materials and are unable to confirm whether the government’s inventory list is accurate.

Dearie’s order, in essence, demands that Trump’s lawyers back up their client’s claims. “This submission shall be Plaintiff’s final opportunity to raise any factual dispute as to the completeness and accuracy of the Detailed Property Inventory,” he wrote.

At a hearing Tuesday, Dearie pressed Trump’s lawyers to take a position on whether the classified documents were, as Trump has said, declassified, but they demurred.