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BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:38 PM Sep 2022

Donald Trump wins ruling in rape accuser Carroll's defamation lawsuit

Source: Reuters

NEW YORK, Sept 27 (Reuters) - A federal appeals court set aside a judge's ruling that Donald Trump could be sued for defamation by E. Jean Carroll after denying he raped her, though it stopped short of declaring the former U.S. president immune from the author's lawsuit. In a 2-1 decision on Tuesday, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan asked an appeals court in Washington to weigh in on whether the laws of that district shielded Trump from liability.

But the Manhattan court also accepted Trump's argument that he qualified as a U.S. government "employee" when he allegedly defamed Carroll, a condition underlying his immunity claim. A dissenting judge, Denny Chin, would have let Carroll pursue "at least some" claims, saying "Carroll's allegations plausibly paint a picture of a man pursuing a personal vendetta against an accuser." Carroll sued Trump in November 2019, and had been hoping to go to trial as soon as next February.

She had accused Trump in a June 2019 book excerpt of having raped her in late 1995 or early 1996 in a dressing room at the Bergdorf Goodman department store in midtown Manhattan. Trump, then in his third year in the White House, responded to her accusations by telling a reporter he did not know Carroll, that "she's not my type," and that she concocted the rape claim to sell her book. Alina Habba, a lawyer for Trump, said in a statement she was "extremely pleased" with Tuesday's decision, saying it would "protect the ability of all future presidents to effectively govern without hindrance."

Roberta Kaplan, a lawyer for Carroll, said in a statement she was "confident" the District of Columbia court would let the case proceed. On Sept. 20, Kaplan said Carroll planned to sue Trump for battery and inflicting emotional distress even if the defamation claims were thrown out. She cited a new state law, the Adult Survivors Act, which gives adult accusers a one-year window starting on Nov. 24 to bring civil claims over alleged sexual misconduct occurring long ago.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/appeals-court-seeks-guidance-lawsuit-by-donald-trump-rape-accuser-2022-09-27/



Forgot this case was still going...
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Donald Trump wins ruling in rape accuser Carroll's defamation lawsuit (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2022 OP
republican men want rape to be legal. Hell it already is for the murderous tick. onecaliberal Sep 2022 #1
Yes rape won't be prosecuted but women who get abortions go to prison. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #3
That is 100% the plan. onecaliberal Sep 2022 #4
Back to the way it has always been on this planet. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #5
We are coming for these oppressors. onecaliberal Sep 2022 #12
I hope to God that this is what happens. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #15
Not if we stay vigilant and fight like hell. TheProle Sep 2022 #13
I think it is time for women of the world to go nuclear, metaphorically speaking. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #16
I am personally on that path now. I am done putting up with the bullshit that rationalizes treating onecaliberal Sep 2022 #17
I'm in the same place. Who the bloody hell do men think they are? Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #19
We need to take control away from them. They're going to kill is all for greed. onecaliberal Sep 2022 #23
The oligarchs think they are immune from climate change. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #24
The greased pig slips the grasp of justice again. CentralMass Sep 2022 #2
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #27
Aaaaand there goes another chance for justice against that slob. Wave it goodbye. Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #6
"Another chance for justice" brooklynite Sep 2022 #21
Obviously. Did you have a point? Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #22
I suspect a lot of people here wouldn't consider another fine to be "justice" brooklynite Sep 2022 #25
Of course BradAllison Sep 2022 #7
According to DOJ gab13by13 Sep 2022 #8
"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything...grab em by the p*ssy" LiberalLovinLug Sep 2022 #9
It's not over Novara Sep 2022 #10
SO many other cases against him ARE moving forward. This one was always going to be tough. oldsoftie Sep 2022 #11
tRump is special... so fuckin' special... Blue Owl Sep 2022 #14
We are way less evolved then our egos are willing to admit? Brainfodder Sep 2022 #18
Ugh... sakabatou Sep 2022 #20
Stupid ruling pfitz59 Sep 2022 #26
What the everloving fuck? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2022 #28
You've got to wonder if the judge was threatened. clementine613 Sep 2022 #29

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
5. Back to the way it has always been on this planet.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:46 PM
Sep 2022

I guess women's rights were just the blink of an eye time wise.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
15. I hope to God that this is what happens.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 02:51 PM
Sep 2022

If not, young women have no idea what life is going to be like for them.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
16. I think it is time for women of the world to go nuclear, metaphorically speaking.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 02:52 PM
Sep 2022

Demand men give up the control and subjugation of women planet wide.

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
17. I am personally on that path now. I am done putting up with the bullshit that rationalizes treating
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 03:03 PM
Sep 2022

females like they are put on earth at the direction and pleasure of men. I will not be controlled, my daughters and granddaughter will not be controlled and exists at the pleasure of males. What the fuck is wrong with people?

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
19. I'm in the same place. Who the bloody hell do men think they are?
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 03:14 PM
Sep 2022

Putting women in prison for getting a life saving abortion?
And the doctors who treat women go to prison too?

Women murdered for not wearing a headscarf?

Women now will be pregnant all the time, no birth control, no abortion.
No healthcare. Cannot get an education or support herself.

Women around the world are being abused, raped and controlled.

The Chinese have a saying "Women hold up half the sky."

Maybe it is damn time women stop trying to keep the world going and let men figure it out.
And at the same time start fighting hard against the bull shit.

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
23. We need to take control away from them. They're going to kill is all for greed.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 03:33 PM
Sep 2022

They don’t even care about the planet.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
24. The oligarchs think they are immune from climate change.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 03:38 PM
Sep 2022

So they don't care if they trash the planet.
They have back up plans in place.

Right, they will kill and subjugate all of us for power and wealth.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
27. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 06:56 PM
Sep 2022

How the fucking hell those judges could possibly regard privelage of office holder is just beyond the fucking pale of rationalizations.


I'm so sick in my stomach and heaping angry right now.

and yeah, what you said. The Greasy Pig slips the grasps of justice once again corrupt judges are also the problem.

gab13by13

(21,349 posts)
8. According to DOJ
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:58 PM
Sep 2022

an official duty of the president is to defame a woman who accuses him of rape. If the case goes to trial DOJ will defend Trump. (the office)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
9. "And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything...grab em by the p*ssy"
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:59 PM
Sep 2022

The truest words that Donald Trump has ever spoken

Novara

(5,842 posts)
10. It's not over
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:03 PM
Sep 2022

A court in DC gets to decide if he was acting in his official capacity when he defamed the woman he raped.

And she is still going to sue in NY, which erased the statute of limitations for a period.

The details are in the article.

oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
11. SO many other cases against him ARE moving forward. This one was always going to be tough.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:27 PM
Sep 2022

Defamation is always. rough case to prove.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
18. We are way less evolved then our egos are willing to admit?
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 03:11 PM
Sep 2022

Hiding behind corporations, hiding behind lawyers.

In protection of ego & COWARDICE?

He knows rape is bad, if he doesn't, that's asylum patient level fucked up thinking?

He is accused of it more than the majority is likely a fair statement by what chance 1 out 1.0001 times?

Since he doesn't follow the law at all, I'm OK if he is run over with a steamroller even on purpose?

Laws for all or laws for none?

He is not the president any more and should not have those documents, and just lying around carelessly for a while, yeah RED FLAG alert, DUH!










pfitz59

(10,381 posts)
26. Stupid ruling
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 05:26 PM
Sep 2022

She did not sue "The Office of the President", she sued the rapist occupying it. Clear distinction.

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