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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:43 PM Oct 2022

Saudi Arabia lowers oil prices for Europe but raises them again for the US as White House says OPEC+

Source: Markets Insider

Saudi Arabia is raising oil prices for the US market again, while lowering them for Europe and leaving them largely unchanged for Asia.

November shipments of Arab Light crude to Asia from state-run producer Saudi Aramco will remain steady at $5.85 per barrel above benchmark prices. A Bloomberg survey estimated prices in Asia, the kingdom's top market, would rise by $0.40 per barrel.

Elsewhere, Saudi Aramco hiked prices by $0.20 a barrel for all US grades, while northwest Europe and the Mediterranean saw declines. While Asian prices for the company's light oil was flat, its medium and heavy-grade crude prices ticked up in Asia by $0.25.

Last month, Saudi Aramco also lowered prices in Europe and raised them in the US.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/saudi-arabia-lowers-oil-prices-for-europe-but-raises-them-again-for-the-us-as-white-house-says-opec-is-siding-with-russia/ar-AA12Ftoj



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Saudi Arabia lowers oil prices for Europe but raises them again for the US as White House says OPEC+ (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 OP
Hmm... Mike Nelson Oct 2022 #1
BINGO ✔️ live love laugh Oct 2022 #32
Ironically BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #2
The country that supplied fifteen 9-11 hijackers wants their puppet republicans in power Mysterian Oct 2022 #3
How can 20 cents a barrel increase... GreenWave Oct 2022 #4
Taking 2% off global daily supply will alter prices IbogaProject Oct 2022 #9
I'm good with that. Katcat Oct 2022 #23
For years they have been buying huge swaths of land in AZ and this land has water rights. in2herbs Oct 2022 #28
By the time that 20 cents KS Toronado Oct 2022 #25
Stop giving SA military equipment, Right. Now. lark Oct 2022 #5
Yes, cut them off. Round it up, take it back. kysrsoze Oct 2022 #7
Everything we do for the Saudi head choppers must be stopped immediately and indefinitely. Magoo48 Oct 2022 #8
Don't throw it on Sinema and Manchin. former9thward Oct 2022 #13
True, but I am still hopeful. lark Oct 2022 #34
Send them bone saws and tell them were to shove it IronLionZion Oct 2022 #15
I think we already know the answer to your last question FoxNewsSucks Oct 2022 #27
How do charge different countries different prices for a commodity? karynnj Oct 2022 #6
Yes, but there would be transpiration costs from a 3rd party. former9thward Oct 2022 #14
🤔 louslobbs Oct 2022 #10
This video says it all. MBS got everything he wanted from Trump and Kushner. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #11
👍🏻 louslobbs Oct 2022 #17
We'll remember that when the Saudi LIV Tower Crasher Golf Team Submariner Oct 2022 #18
👍 louslobbs Oct 2022 #31
Quick fix. Start giving arms to multigraincracker Oct 2022 #12
i thought oil was a global commodity sold (priced) on the global market ToxMarz Oct 2022 #16
You beat me to it. It is a global commodity. This story doesn't even make sense, and makes me JohnSJ Oct 2022 #20
Is that even possible? Isn't the price of oil determined as a commodity worldwide, not specifically JohnSJ Oct 2022 #19
Releasing oil for strategic reserves can only do so much. louis-t Oct 2022 #21
Eat it Katcat Oct 2022 #22
Fuck the Saudis... let them buy their weapons from Russia... Raster Oct 2022 #24
I have no idea who Markets Insider is or Brian Evans, but that is NOT how the price of oil is done JohnSJ Oct 2022 #26
No more weapons, not more parts. No more Mr. Nice Guy. BlueIdaho Oct 2022 #29
We need to stop exporting our oil. roamer65 Oct 2022 #30
Remember,these are our allies in the Mideast region.....yeah right Bengus81 Oct 2022 #33
That is not how oil pricing works, it is a comodity JohnSJ Oct 2022 #35

Mysterian

(4,587 posts)
3. The country that supplied fifteen 9-11 hijackers wants their puppet republicans in power
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:57 PM
Oct 2022

We should cut all ties with that filth.

GreenWave

(6,757 posts)
4. How can 20 cents a barrel increase...
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:59 PM
Oct 2022

translate into the Doomsday predicted the Lamestream is now regurgitating?

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
9. Taking 2% off global daily supply will alter prices
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:29 PM
Oct 2022

The markets have to price these changes. Opec+ can change production the markets where oil is traded will set the prices. While 2% is a small amount it can alter the surplus scarcity ratio and move prices much more.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
28. For years they have been buying huge swaths of land in AZ and this land has water rights.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:06 PM
Oct 2022

They grow alfalfa on it and ship it back to their country. This farming has depleted some wells and reduced volume in others in the area -- plus the price they pay for their water consumption is pennies compared to the price AZ people pay. These contracts go back years and its only been recently that state officials have begun to challenge the contracts. So, I agree, anything they grow in the USA to export to their country should be comparable to their oil price increase.

KS Toronado

(17,248 posts)
25. By the time that 20 cents
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:19 PM
Oct 2022

goes through the middle men, (refineries, distributors, gas stations) it'll be .75 cents to 1$.
Capitalism requires everyone to get their cut.

lark

(23,103 posts)
5. Stop giving SA military equipment, Right. Now.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:01 PM
Oct 2022

That's what should be done. MBS is an ally of Russia's Putin, 2 murderers in a pod. Stop selling them any military equipment as well. Just don't know if Biden can do this via Executive Order or if it Requires Congress? If it requires Congress, the only question is will Sienema and Mancin support Putin or US?

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
13. Don't throw it on Sinema and Manchin.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:52 PM
Oct 2022

There is no indication anyone in the White House wants to do this.

lark

(23,103 posts)
34. True, but I am still hopeful.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 08:41 AM
Oct 2022

MBS is a Putin ally, not an ally of ours and we need to recognize that and take appropriate steps to either change these terms or change our terms of munition sales/give aways right now! I know the government hasn't said anything and that this complicated, but they need to do something or SA will put Russia on a more stable financial position to continue the war.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
6. How do charge different countries different prices for a commodity?
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:04 PM
Oct 2022

Wouldn't that just lead to us buying from an EU country for a lower price than Saudi Arabia is charging us?

Lonestarblue

(10,007 posts)
11. This video says it all. MBS got everything he wanted from Trump and Kushner.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:35 PM
Oct 2022

Now he’s thumbing his nose at the US. Unfortunately, we still need to import oil from the Middle East.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
18. We'll remember that when the Saudi LIV Tower Crasher Golf Team
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 02:37 PM
Oct 2022

visits Bedbugminster for the next Bonesaw Mo Open golf tournament. How about a TSA pat down MBS?

ToxMarz

(2,168 posts)
16. i thought oil was a global commodity sold (priced) on the global market
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 02:25 PM
Oct 2022

So the producers get to price it individually for different markets??

JohnSJ

(92,213 posts)
20. You beat me to it. It is a global commodity. This story doesn't even make sense, and makes me
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 02:55 PM
Oct 2022

wonder about its validity

JohnSJ

(92,213 posts)
19. Is that even possible? Isn't the price of oil determined as a commodity worldwide, not specifically
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 02:54 PM
Oct 2022

toward individiual countries?

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
21. Releasing oil for strategic reserves can only do so much.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:00 PM
Oct 2022

Producing and refining more oil can only do so much. The only thing that really brings down prices is to STOP USING SO MUCH OIL. Carpooling, ride sharing, making sure your tires are inflated and filters are clean, consolidating trips, more hybrid and electric cars, stop driving like a maniac and leave 10 minutes earlier. Look what happened when the country was locked down for 6 months. Price of oil dropped below $10 a barrel. Its the only thing that will make a significant difference.

Katcat

(231 posts)
22. Eat it
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:06 PM
Oct 2022

I guess they do without grain from the US can’t they. Secret them, raise the grain prices as muc( as they raised oil or more.

JohnSJ

(92,213 posts)
26. I have no idea who Markets Insider is or Brian Evans, but that is NOT how the price of oil is done
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:20 PM
Oct 2022


"The Determinants of Oil Prices
​With oil's stature as a high-demand global commodity comes the possibility that major fluctuations in price can have a significant economic impact. The two primary factors that impact the price of oil are:

Supply and demand
Cost of production
Market sentiment

"OPEC was founded in the 1960s to—put it crudely—fix oil and gas prices. By restricting production, OPEC could force prices to rise, and thereby theoretically enjoy greater profits than if its member countries had each sold on the world market at the going rate. Throughout the 1970s and much of the 1980s, it followed this sound, if somewhat unethical, strategy.

........

According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, OPEC member countries often exceed their quotas, selling a few million extra barrels knowing that enforcers can't really stop them from doing so.

With Canada, China, Russia, and the United States as non-members—and increasing their own output—OPEC is becoming limited in its ability to, as its mission euphemistically states, "ensure the stabilization of oil markets in order to secure an efficient, economic and regular supply of petroleum to consumers."

......

"In 2022, however, Russia invaded Ukraine, disrupting oil and gas markets. With economic sanctions against Russia placed by the U.S. and much of the West, oil prices have since skyrocketed above $100 a barrel. As of June 2022, a barrel trades for around $125."

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/determining-oil-prices.asp

I call bullshit on this article. Saudi Arabia doesn't control the price of oil to individual countries, because that is NOT how the price is done. It is a global commodity.

While Saudi Arabia can reduce their output, it will affect EVERYONE as a world commodity

I suspect there is a political agenda afoot here, and would like to know more about who owns Markets Insider, and who Brian Evans is



BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
29. No more weapons, not more parts. No more Mr. Nice Guy.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 05:02 PM
Oct 2022

Fuck ‘em. Let them buy some of the third world shit weapons from Putin. As for their millionaire class - foreclose on Saudi owned US property, freeze their bank accounts, and ban all sales and exports of luxury items. Pound sand MbS.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
33. Remember,these are our allies in the Mideast region.....yeah right
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:31 AM
Oct 2022

These FUCKS need to be cut off from any and all military weapons purchases from the US.

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