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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 10:57 AM Oct 2022

Pope slams treatment of migrants as 2 Italians become saints

Source: AP

By COLLEEN BARRY and LUIGI NAVARRA

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis on Sunday denounced Europe’s indifference toward migrants risking their lives to cross the Mediterranean Sea as he elevated to sainthood an Italian bishop and Italian-born missionary whose work and life paths illustrated the difficulties faced by 19th Century Italian emigrants.

Francis departed from prepared remarks to slam Europe’s treatment of migrants as “disgusting, sinful and criminal.” He noted that people from outside the continent are often left to die during perilous sea crossings or pushed back to Libya, where they wind up in camps he referred to as “lager,” the German word referring to Nazi concentration camps.

He also recalled the plight of Ukrainians fleeing war, which he said “causes us great suffering.”

“ The exclusion of migrants is scandalous,” Francis said, generating applause from the faithful gathered in St. Peter’s Square for the canonizations of Don Giovanni Battista Scalabrini, an Italian bishop who founded an order to help Italian emigrants in 1887, and Artedime Zatti, an Italian who emigrated in 1897 to Argentina and dedicated his life as a lay-worker there to helping the sick.



Pope Francis celebrates a mass for the canonization of two new saints, Giovanni Battista Scalabrini and Artemide Zatti, in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican, Sunday, Oct. 9, 2022. (AP Photo/Andrew Medichini)



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Pope slams treatment of migrants as 2 Italians become saints (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2022 OP
Francis is the 'good emperor' speak easy Oct 2022 #1
I just hope Francis keeps his tea under lock and key peppertree Oct 2022 #2
The Church is going to have to split musette_sf Oct 2022 #3
You're just the kind of person the Catholic right doesn't like: sharp, and very well-informed peppertree Oct 2022 #5
I remember when it was admirable musette_sf Oct 2022 #7
"Pliant pew potatoes" peppertree Oct 2022 #8
he should decry shipping them to Martha's Vineyard & Kamala Harris's home Stargleamer Oct 2022 #4
Love this pope !!! iluvtennis Oct 2022 #6

speak easy

(9,249 posts)
1. Francis is the 'good emperor'
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 11:35 AM
Oct 2022

but for every Francis, there is another Ratzinger in waiting in the wings. the problem is emperors.

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
2. I just hope Francis keeps his tea under lock and key
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 12:05 PM
Oct 2022

Opus Dei is none too fond of him - even in his native Argentina, where right-wing (Opus-allied) media attacks him non-stop.

musette_sf

(10,201 posts)
3. The Church is going to have to split
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 12:43 PM
Oct 2022

Last edited Sun Oct 9, 2022, 05:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Bergoglio says many of the things that need to be said, and I think in reality, a good faction of the top hierarchy knows that this Pope was needed to restore some sense of social relevancy to the Church. That being said, the small but exceedingly loud and annoying fundy cohort (see: “Church Militant”, Opus Dei, People of Praise, etc), that worship the questionably canonized Wojtyła and his collaborator Ratzinger, are deep in places of power. I’d personally be glad to see the trads break off into their own little sect, and let the Church attempt to advance social justice without them as an anchor. When Bergoglio retires/passes, the power struggle will be interesting to see. (I’m all in favor of this retiring thing, but I think Ratzinger and his followers wield it as a shadow Papacy.)

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
5. You're just the kind of person the Catholic right doesn't like: sharp, and very well-informed
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 03:06 PM
Oct 2022

My impression is that most Catholics are largely unaware of the political tug-of-war within their church.

And that's just how Opus Dei and their medievalist allies like it - especially their lay allies, the most dangerous.

musette_sf

(10,201 posts)
7. I remember when it was admirable
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 02:41 AM
Oct 2022

to be Catholic, sharp, and well-informed, e.g. Berrigan, or St Óscar Romero, for that matter. But since Wojtyła, it’s more about pliant pew potatoes.

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
8. "Pliant pew potatoes"
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 08:46 AM
Oct 2022


Sounds like something a Pope might eat!

- but not Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco (widely reputed to be gay, besides having almost Versace-like tastes), or Archbishop Michael Bransfield of West Virginia (who lived a very un-West Virginia lifestyle).

It was first-class and cordon-bleu for them all the way.

Stargleamer

(1,989 posts)
4. he should decry shipping them to Martha's Vineyard & Kamala Harris's home
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 01:18 PM
Oct 2022

such overt criticism would be most welcome

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