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BumRushDaShow

(129,385 posts)
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 10:55 AM Oct 2022

Biden to 'Re-Evaluate' Relationship With Saudi Arabia After Oil Production Cut

Source: New York Times

President Biden is re-evaluating the relationship with Saudi Arabia after it teamed up with Russia to cut oil production in a move that bolstered President Vladimir V. Putin's government and could raise American gasoline prices just before midterm elections, a White House official said on Tuesday. "I think the president's been very clear that this is a relationship that we need to continue to re-evaluate, that we need to be willing to revisit," the official, John F. Kirby, the strategic communications coordinator for the National Security Council at the White House, said on CNN. "And certainly in light of the OPEC decision, I think that's where he is."

Mr. Kirby signaled openness to retaliatory measures proposed by Democratic congressional leaders outraged by the oil production cut announced last week by the international cartel known as OPEC Plus. Among other things, leading Democrats have proposed curbing American security cooperation with Saudi Arabia, including arms sales, and stripping OPEC members of their legal immunity so they can be sued for violations of American antitrust laws.

"The president's obviously disappointed by the OPEC decision and is going to be willing to work with Congress as we think about what the right relationship with Saudi Arabia needs to be going forward," Mr. Kirby said. He sounded a note of urgency. "The timeline's now and I think he's going to be willing to start to have those conversations right away," he said. "I don't think this is anything that's going to have to wait or should wait quite frankly for much longer."

The comments came just a day after Senator Bob Menendez, Democrat of New Jersey and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, assailed Saudi Arabia for effectively backing Russia in its brutal invasion of Ukraine and called for an immediate freeze on "all aspects of our cooperation with Saudi Arabia," vowing to use his power to block any future arms sales.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/11/us/politics/biden-saudi-arabia-oil-production-cut.html



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Bayard

(22,128 posts)
1. Saudi Arabia is not our friend
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:00 AM
Oct 2022

They did seem to like Bush though. Maybe because he attacked Iraq instead of them after 9/11.

BComplex

(8,060 posts)
8. That was his Godfather. The families were close for generations.
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 12:36 PM
Oct 2022

I hope we pull totally away from the Saudi's. Their government is responsible for 9/11, they stab us in the back at every turn, and they've been with trump in trying to bring us down from within.

Crowman2009

(2,499 posts)
2. We need to accelerate the expansion of renewable energy projects.
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:03 AM
Oct 2022

Along with fixing our public transportation infrastructure and making it more affordable to live close to work and shopping areas.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
3. He can start by reviewing our military support of MBS...
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:11 AM
Oct 2022

That includes US bases and troops stationed there.

Ford_Prefect

(7,918 posts)
6. ...And nearly unlimited arms sales. We'll be hearing from Lockheed-Martin and all the other
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:41 AM
Oct 2022

arms merchants before the ink is dry. Of course the answer is they will weapons factories to spec in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, or Oman to avoid regulation, unless the French or German suppliers do so first.

JustAnotherGen

(31,869 posts)
4. We knew this was coming
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:23 AM
Oct 2022

They aren't our friends.

And I called Senator Menendez in support (NJ Citizen) as well as my Congressman, Malinowski.

It's important that the Democrats in both the House and Senate get behind Biden on this, and make it clear they will stand by him.

We generate that by calling and emailing them. Twitter and Facebook don't work.

Lonestarblue

(10,053 posts)
5. Trump pulled out of the Iran Nuclear Agreement, causing further unrest in the Middle East.
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:41 AM
Oct 2022

He then stations US troops in Saudi Arabia to help protect them from Iran. Iran is definitely not a friendly or innocent player in Middle East politics, but Trump only made matters worse. MBS and the rest of OPEC+ have made their alliance against the US. A response is definitely needed.

One of the best responses would be to change the annual billions of dollars in direct taxpayer subsidies to oil companies for drilling to incentives for US refineries to retool their refineries to process US crude into gasoline. With investments also in alternative energy, the US could truly be energy independent in a very few years. The oil companies will fight this because they make a lot of money exporting their oil. We currently export around the same amount of oil as we import. Incentives and taxes might be able to change that.

Evolve Dammit

(16,760 posts)
7. Re-evaluate and conclude that they attacked us on 9-11, murder people at will and are kings in 2022
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:41 AM
Oct 2022

We also don't need to be giving them weapons, and if we get our shit together and prioritize getting off fossil fuels, we won't need their fucking oil either.

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BumRushDaShow

(129,385 posts)
11. Except.......
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 01:25 PM
Oct 2022
U.S. Relations With Saudi Arabia

Bilateral Relations Fact Sheet

Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs

May 11, 2022

(snip)

https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-saudi-arabia/


Here we are 5 months later...

BumRushDaShow

(129,385 posts)
13. Biden has known MBS's dad for decades
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 01:34 PM
Oct 2022

and that is who he normally dealt with. MBS on the other hand, is a young fool.

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