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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,155 posts)
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 08:01 PM Oct 2022

Weinstein lawyer decries 'almost medieval' cell conditions

Source: AP

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Harvey Weinstein's attorney told the judge at his sexual assault trial Tuesday that conditions in the holding cell where he's being kept after court are “unhygienic” and “almost medieval.”

Attorney Mark Werksman asked Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Lisa B. Lench for help with the issue at the beginning of the second day of jury selection in the former movie mogul's trial on 11 counts of rape and sexual assault.

He said Weinstein is being left alone in his wheelchair for three or four hours in an “unsanitary, fetid” holding cell at the courthouse before he is taken back to jail.

“It’s almost medieval, the conditions," Werksman said. "He’s 70 years old. I’m worried about him surviving this ordeal without a heart attack or stroke.”

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/weinstein-lawyer-decries-almost-medieval-cell-conditions/ar-AA12Qxxx



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Weinstein lawyer decries 'almost medieval' cell conditions (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 OP
No sh*t, sherlock. elleng Oct 2022 #1
Even when we don't like people, conditions in holding cells should not be horrific Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2022 #2
Agree. chowder66 Oct 2022 #9
2 Jails. 1 for the RICH... SLIDESHOW and 1 where you die waiting to get in... TigressDem Oct 2022 #15
I don't know about now, but back in the 80s/90s Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #22
Now they have tatoo removal program TigressDem Oct 2022 #23
That's for the inmates Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #29
OMG scary. TigressDem Oct 2022 #33
NOW if they moved him to the main jail, he probably has a right to complain. TigressDem Oct 2022 #17
This about a holding cell at the courthouse, neither Twin Towers nor County Jail Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2022 #18
OH, they probably don't have public record on those since people aren't there 24+ hours. TigressDem Oct 2022 #25
Yeah, sure, Turbineguy Oct 2022 #3
Medieval? COL Mustard Oct 2022 #4
Like this? nycbos Oct 2022 #11
Sorry Harvey calguy Oct 2022 #5
Someone call the waaaahmbulence! sakabatou Oct 2022 #6
So unfair.... they should have nicer prisons for the rich WiseElder Oct 2022 #7
He's in "the nice one" and has no reason to complain. TigressDem Oct 2022 #16
So they are going to come out very strongly for prison reform? SeattleVet Oct 2022 #8
He's gonna be Epsteined speak easy Oct 2022 #10
Rape is "unsanitary, fetid" medieval. Tough shit, 70 year-old serial rapist. ancianita Oct 2022 #12
Considering his medieval behavior towards women, Aristus Oct 2022 #13
Petition to go to Guantanamo like those 1/6 pukes. Mawspam2 Oct 2022 #14
There is a reason they don't call jail, the Ritz. sarcasmo Oct 2022 #19
70 years old. Demobrat Oct 2022 #20
I'm not in favor of this person IbogaProject Oct 2022 #21
Send him to Rikers for a wake up call. BigmanPigman Oct 2022 #24
Absolutely! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #27
'almost medieval' keithbvadu2 Oct 2022 #26
Apparently, he is not lying............ secondwind Oct 2022 #28
Prison reform is needed; for everyone but Whinestein. twodogsbarking Oct 2022 #30
If it were any normal prisoner, we wouldn't hear about it IronLionZion Oct 2022 #31
Yeah, they are. malthaussen Oct 2022 #32
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Even when we don't like people, conditions in holding cells should not be horrific
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 08:05 PM
Oct 2022

Not saying they ARE in his case, but if they are ... cleanup needs to be done.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
15. 2 Jails. 1 for the RICH... SLIDESHOW and 1 where you die waiting to get in...
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 10:38 PM
Oct 2022

Take a gues which one Weinstein is at AND STILL complaining.

At Weinstein's income range, I'm sure he's traumatized, but so were his victims.

Mar 5, 2022 — The disgraced producer is being held at the Correctional Treatment Center, the medical unit within the Twin Towers jail in downtown Los Angeles,

https://www.latimes.com/la-me-mental-health-housing-unit-twin-towers-pictures-20150805-photogallery.html




#LASDJustTheFacts Twin Towers Correctional Facility was designed to house 1,000 high security inmates in 2 man cells only houses 500 severely mentally ill inmates who require single cell occupancy. Most severely mentally ill require observation 24/7 increased by 25% in 2 yrs.


NOW THE LA COUNTY JAIL.....

WHERE the NON-Mental, NON-Medical people are incarcerated....

THAT IS BAD -- 24 hours OR MORE for INTAKE

https://nypost.com/2022/09/09/aclu-pushes-for-court-order-over-abysmal-conditions-in-la-county-jail/

The LA County Jail houses more than 14,600 inmates and the jail’s inmate reception center is where recently arrested individuals are processed and held while they wait for a more permanent placement at the largest jail facility in the country.

Under the emergency request, the ACLU is asking the court to order the county to limit the intake process to 24 hours at the most.


.....


According to the ACLU suit, inmates have died as they wait in the county jail’s inmate reception center. A man died in April after he was found unresponsive, while a 72-year old man who was held at the IRC received no medical attention and collapsed and died after two days.
 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
22. I don't know about now, but back in the 80s/90s
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 12:03 AM
Oct 2022

Some LA County jail guards had tattoos in Spanish, "Changos Luchadores," AKA, "Monkey fighters."

Essentially a gang, with their own colors.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
17. NOW if they moved him to the main jail, he probably has a right to complain.
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 10:42 PM
Oct 2022

But if he is still in the twin towers location, he needs to SHADDD UP.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
18. This about a holding cell at the courthouse, neither Twin Towers nor County Jail
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:08 PM
Oct 2022

are the place he's complaining about.

It's a holding cell, that's (by definition) different from where you're housed normally.

COL Mustard

(5,915 posts)
4. Medieval?
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 08:12 PM
Oct 2022

Are they hanging him up by his thumbs? Chaining him upside down to the wall? Making him listen to Yanni 24/7? Those things would be medieval!!!

calguy

(5,324 posts)
5. Sorry Harvey
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 08:19 PM
Oct 2022

But if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Prison sucks for rich guys as much as poor guys.
Except that rich guys still have lawyers bitching about the conditions their criminal clients are 'forced' to endure.

WiseElder

(132 posts)
7. So unfair.... they should have nicer prisons for the rich
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 08:27 PM
Oct 2022

I'll bet they will come up with nicer accommodations for Trump

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
16. He's in "the nice one" and has no reason to complain.
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 10:41 PM
Oct 2022

See my post up thread.

There are 2 JAILS and he is in the one for medical and mental patients and it's a LOT better than the main jail where people have DIED waiting to get processed and sleep on the floor in cells with clogged toilets, etc...


But he is in the nicer one where most inmates have their own cell and don't have to share..

Demobrat

(8,986 posts)
20. 70 years old.
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:34 PM
Oct 2022

He’s had a lifetime of raping and abusing women while living a life of luxury most people can’t even imagine. He should have been caught and thrown in prison for life a long time ago. Like, after the first rape.

He’s a lucky man. He walked free for way, way longer than he should have.

IbogaProject

(2,827 posts)
21. I'm not in favor of this person
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:43 PM
Oct 2022

But what they are referring to is the holding cell process at the actual court house. These are often very slipshod including the transportation to and from the actual jail he is being held in during the legal process.

keithbvadu2

(36,876 posts)
26. 'almost medieval'
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 12:46 AM
Oct 2022

Really bad prison time... Nazi war criminal... from advisor to liability

Nazi war criminal Alois Brunner died in Syria basement in 2001 - report

http://www.timesofisrael.com/nazi-war-criminal-alois-brunner-died-in-syria-basement-in-2001-report/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38586945

Nazi war criminal Alois Brunner 'died in Syria squalor'

One of his guards said Brunner, who went by the name of Abu Hussein, “suffered and cried a lot in his final years, everyone heard him.”

The man, identified only as Omar, said he “couldn’t even wash.”

All he had to eat were “army rations - awful stuff - and an egg or a potato. He had to choose one or the other.”

(He was a 'consultant' to various torture regimes but when he became a political embarrassment/liability, his retirement plan was really bad)

IronLionZion

(45,511 posts)
31. If it were any normal prisoner, we wouldn't hear about it
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:00 AM
Oct 2022

but if the prison conditions really are unsanitary, fetid, etc. then those conditions should be improved for any human being, not just a wealthy famous one.

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