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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,464 posts)
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:04 PM Oct 2022

New Omicron Covid-19 Subvariants on the Rise in U.S., CDC Says

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

HEALTH

New Omicron Covid-19 Subvariants on the Rise in U.S., CDC Says

BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 subvariants together drove an estimated 11.4% of recent U.S. cases

By Jon Kamp and Brianna Abbott
https://twitter.com/jon_kamp
Jon.Kamp@wsj.com
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brianna.abbott@wsj.com
Updated Oct. 14, 2022 11:33 am ET

New offshoots of the Omicron Covid-19 variant that virus experts say appear to spread easily are on the rise in the U.S. , the latest federal data show. ... Two of the Omicron subvariants, both related to the BA.5 version that drove the most recent U.S. surge, are called BQ.1 and BQ.1.1. They were estimated to represent a combined 11.4% of U.S. Covid-19 cases by mid-October, according to estimates the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released Friday.

BA.5 remains the dominant version of the virus circulating in the U.S. at about 68% of recent cases, according to CDC estimates. But the subvariant landscape has become busier as the virus that causes Covid-19 continues to mutate as it spreads. Another version virus experts are watching because of its potential to spread easily, called BA.2.72.2, represented an estimated 1.4% of cases in the latest CDC report.

The BQ subvariants’ quick rise “suggests that they either have increased transmissibility or increased immune escape compared with BA.5.,” said Dan Barouch, who directs the Center for Virology and Vaccine Research at Boston’s Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. (1)

It isn’t clear that the BQ subvariants will take over in the U.S. or elsewhere, said T. Ryan Gregory, a professor in the Department of Integrative Biology at the University of Guelph in Canada. It is possible that multiple variants end up displacing BA.5 without becoming individually dominant, he said.

{snip}

Write to Jon Kamp at Jon.Kamp@wsj.com and Brianna Abbott at brianna.abbott@wsj.com

(1) https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-variants-keep-getting-more-contagious-heres-why-11660210202

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-omicron-covid-19-subvariants-on-the-rise-in-u-s-cdc-says-11665761579



New offshoots of the Omicron Covid-19 variant that virus experts say appear to spread easily are on the rise in the U.S., with the BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 subvariants estimated to represent a combined 11.4% of Covid-19 cases by mid-October

wsj.com
New Omicron Covid-19 Subvariants on the Rise in U.S., CDC Says
Two new offshoots that experts say appear to spread easily were estimated to represent 11.4% of U.S. cases by mid-October, according


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New Omicron Covid-19 Subvariants on the Rise in U.S., CDC Says (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2022 OP
Does the Bivalent COVID booster out there now.... RussBLib Oct 2022 #1
From what I read yesterday, yes, but takes some time. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #2
Better get Rebl2 Oct 2022 #8
And we're having a flu outbreak RussBLib Oct 2022 #14
State of the Pandemic MayReasonRule Oct 2022 #15
Welcome to DU GP6971 Oct 2022 #16
Hmm MayReasonRule Oct 2022 #17
That was a weak tea endorcement of Joe Biden, wasn't it? marble falls Oct 2022 #20
Joe Biden is what he is... MayReasonRule Oct 2022 #21
He said the pandemic is over mcar Oct 2022 #18
He said the pandemic is over... when it's not. MayReasonRule Oct 2022 #22
Oh, hi! mcar Oct 2022 #23
Hey y'all!! MayReasonRule Oct 2022 #24
If only someone could have seen this coming. sybylla Oct 2022 #3
This from Nature regarding the subvariants and the new boosters: Gaugamela Oct 2022 #4
I'm honestly more afraid of long Covid's neurological effects than actually dying from it. nm SoBlueInFL Oct 2022 #5
That is my biggest fear. I do not want to enter my "golden years" with some CV affliction. JanMichael Oct 2022 #25
I've been monitoring the variants from CDC's Variant Proportions tracker (updated weekly) BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #6
Hey, what's happening? I got my Moderna booster a couple weeks back. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2022 #7
The only boosters now "authorized" are the bivalents! BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #9
Same thing happened to me. I just got my new card yesterday afternoon. NT mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2022 #10
Europe reported new cases up 81% since September 13, though there's a one-day downhook progree Oct 2022 #11
In Minnesota we have more serious health challenges ... mental health ... progree Oct 2022 #12
When I saw a big pro wrestler gagging from it on video, I don't need to try it myself. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #13
Wait. They're saying a Covid subvariant is easily transmissable? maxsolomon Oct 2022 #19

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
1. Does the Bivalent COVID booster out there now....
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:11 PM
Oct 2022

....give any protection against the new subbvariants? Doesn't say.

oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
2. From what I read yesterday, yes, but takes some time.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:22 PM
Oct 2022

The new Vax is for the BA.4 &5 and now we've got BA.6 or however they label them.
Starting to look like a "yearly covid shot".
I'm still not totally sold on constant boosting though. Ive had the initial & 1 boost.

Rebl2

(13,516 posts)
8. Better get
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:17 PM
Oct 2022

that new one. Covid racing through my Moms nursing home right now. At least 35 patients have it. Haven’t looked at today’s numbers. They don’t post until late in the afternoon.
When Covid-19 started, I remember doctors saying nursing homes and hospitals were an example of what is going on in the community. Now that many people don’t wear masks or test numbers likely going up. We don’t know because cities don’t seem to keep track anymore. My town never did. They relied on the county’s numbers.

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
14. And we're having a flu outbreak
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 11:13 AM
Oct 2022

Some say about half of Port Isabel (TX) has the flu. The wife and I got our flu shot yesterday.

...while COVID is also exploding in the RGV.

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
15. State of the Pandemic
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:50 PM
Oct 2022

I voted for Biden. I'm grateful for the positive things he has been able to set into motion.

It's obvious to reasoned observers that any cogent analysis of data demonstrates the pandemic being far from over.

POTUS saying it's over is a slap in the face of reason. I count this as a large failure on his part.

I'd still vote for him if he runs, at least he's not a Nat-C Fascist.

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
21. Joe Biden is what he is...
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 02:15 PM
Oct 2022

I don't see a more viable choice really. I'm just one observer though.

At this point, anyone still associated with the GOP I personally categorize as being at the very least, a supporter of Nat-C Fascism.

Whomever the viable candidate ends up being that opposes the Nat-C Fascist's candidate, is the candidate that gets my vote.

Reason demonstrates that our freedoms depend upon reason. Without reason, we end up with Machiavellian perversions such as the current incarnation of Y'all Qaeda's Nat-C packed GOP and SCOTUS.

Which is why, reason never desists. Reason always resists.

BTW, that's a "Googleism" y'all! Weak tea endorsement...




MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
22. He said the pandemic is over... when it's not.
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 12:16 PM
Oct 2022

The facts in evidence clearly demonstrate that the pandemic is far from over.

And, we're facing a triple-whammy pretty much as of right now, in this very moment.

Stark warnings are already being given that the likelihood of mass concurrent infections from RSV, Flu variant and COVID variant are quite high.

Things are always as they are, and rarely as one might have it to be.

Reason allows choices.

Delusion destroys.

I choose reason.

May reason rule.

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
24. Hey y'all!!
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 04:30 PM
Oct 2022

How's BQ 1.1 in your area?

I'm in Caddo Parish.

Facts in evidence are outright rejected within the majority of Parish residents hymned in by shame and revelling in delusion.

A million lives already taken, country's near to breaking.

Ain't no way one man alone, hid the bodies, bought the thrones. Buying in to sell us out?

Odd to say, I ain't got no doubt.

May reason rule.

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
4. This from Nature regarding the subvariants and the new boosters:
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:35 PM
Oct 2022
Boosters, including bivalent vaccines, are likely to offer some protection against infection with emerging variants. But this might not last long, say scientists. One part of the bivalent vaccines is based on an Omicron subvariant — BA.1 in UK-approved vaccines and BA.5 in the United States. But there are signs that the vaccines tend to stimulate the production of neutralizing antibodies that best recognize not Omicron, but the ancestral virus on which the first vaccines were based. A second dose of the boosters might be needed to generate high levels of Omicron-specific neutralizing antibodies, says Cao.

Fortunately, all evidence suggests that COVID-19 vaccines old and new remain highly effective at preventing severe disease, which Nuzzo argues should be the main goal of autumn and winter booster programmes. This means concentrating booster campaigns on those at the highest risk of severe disease, including older people and people with underlying health conditions, who will benefit the most from the added protection. “We need a laser focus on protection against severe illness,” she says.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03157-x

BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
6. I've been monitoring the variants from CDC's Variant Proportions tracker (updated weekly)
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:07 PM
Oct 2022
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions



You can see the BQ.x and BF.x starting to make a move. BA.5 is still predominate however.

I did get my bivalet booster (and a flu shot at the same time) a little over a week ago and I'm still N95-masking in stores and the post office. In fact I was at the supermarket early this afternoon and heard various people sneezing and coughing (maskless) and was like "Ewwww..." I know it's allergy season and cold season is also starting up now so....

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,464 posts)
7. Hey, what's happening? I got my Moderna booster a couple weeks back.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:15 PM
Oct 2022

Oh, here's the card. It's the bivalent kind.

Ah, you knew that.

BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
9. The only boosters now "authorized" are the bivalents!
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:21 PM
Oct 2022


I think the initial 2-dose series might still be unnchanged though (monovalent).

The pharmacist gave me another card to record it and stapled it to my original vax card since the original ran out of lines (although there was one possible open line available on the reverse side).

progree

(10,908 posts)
11. Europe reported new cases up 81% since September 13, though there's a one-day downhook
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:27 PM
Oct 2022

I usually ignore the last 1-2 days in these things because often there's a little downturn at the end that is the result of some not yet having reported. But there's indications of a plateau.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html
No Paywall No Quota

See the "Cases By Region" section and click the "Last 90 days". Europe is the light blue line.

The U.S. is still looking good relatively speaking at 12 reported new cases per 100k per day and declining.

These are all 7 day moving averages.

Yes, reported cases are a fraction of actual cases.

progree

(10,908 posts)
12. In Minnesota we have more serious health challenges ... mental health ...
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 07:32 PM
Oct 2022
Several students treated for illness after attempting "One Chip Challenge" at Edina middle school, WCCO, 10/14/22

EDINA, Minn. -- Several students at an Edina middle school became sick after attempting the viral "One Chip Challenge" on Thursday.

The challenge involves eating a tortilla chip made with the extremely hot Carolina reaper peppers and scorpion peppers and waiting as long as possible before eating or drinking anything. Videos of people doing this challenge are then shared to TikTok and YouTube.

Edina Public Schools in a statement said that students at South View Middle School were treated at the health office and others experienced eye pain after being exposed to chip dust. Several students complained of having a hard time breathing, and an ambulance was called.

School health staff found no one had a severe allergic reaction or was injured as a result of the challenge.

A little more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/several-students-treated-for-illness-after-attempting-one-chip-challenge-at-edina-middle-school/ar-AA12Yz6J?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=aa269aac87a84e24935f01c8fcbf9a3b


oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
13. When I saw a big pro wrestler gagging from it on video, I don't need to try it myself.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 10:04 AM
Oct 2022

I already KNOW the answer.
He also said its the stupidest thing he's ever done.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
19. Wait. They're saying a Covid subvariant is easily transmissable?
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 12:27 PM
Oct 2022

That's quite a change from EVERY OTHER SUBVARIANT.

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