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brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 07:47 PM Oct 2022

Walker's response to Warnock's insulin bill: Georgians should 'eat right'

Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

In the first sharp exchange, U.S. Sen. Raphael Warnock shifts a question on who is to blame for inflation by touting his support for a federal bill aimed at driving down prescription drug costs.

“He should tell the people of Georgia why he thinks they should have expensive insulin,” Warnock said to Walker of the Democrat’s plan to cap the price of insulin at $35.

The Republican responded that he believed in reducing the costs of insulin but “at the same time you got to eat right.”

That led to this rejoinder from Warnock: We’re hearing from my opponent tonight that it’s their fault” the prices are shooting upward.



Read more: https://www.ajc.com/news/live-updates/warnock-walker-debate/#6DWGXVMRSVHBFH7WWLCEVXWBYU
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Walker's response to Warnock's insulin bill: Georgians should 'eat right' (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2022 OP
This debate won't change anyone's mind. The moderators were piss poor JohnSJ Oct 2022 #1
That one mod got the last word Cha Oct 2022 #15
True, but in general they let Walker get away with a lot of lies JohnSJ Oct 2022 #16
Moderators aren't supposed to fact check debate participants. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #19
It isn't fact checking, it is following up on a blatant contradiction in his answers. In addition, JohnSJ Oct 2022 #20
TOTALLY agree on the audience. Get RID of them at ALL debates. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #30
+++ JohnSJ Oct 2022 #33
Definitely. Brainstormy Oct 2022 #18
I disagree when Walker pulled out his big boy badge, Mommy Moderater had to scold him for Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #22
So, the Republican response to someone born with a defective pancreas Aristus Oct 2022 #2
Walker likely doesnt know the difference between Type 1 & 2. nt oldsoftie Oct 2022 #31
The list of things Walker doesn't know anything about Aristus Oct 2022 #32
LOLOLOLOL oldsoftie Oct 2022 #34
Let them stop eating cake! nt Shermann Oct 2022 #3
You've got to eat right. patphil Oct 2022 #4
Hershel Walker is curiosity-impaired Lithos Oct 2022 #24
Walker is useless from top to bottom. As astute as a wooden plank. n/t Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #5
Wow...what made you hate wooden planks? Enter stage left Oct 2022 #6
I think that's what some white people like about him. ShazzieB Oct 2022 #35
sounds spot on. Well said Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #38
Thank you! ShazzieB Oct 2022 #41
Yeah, we should all eat right. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #7
I wonder if the kids' Walker reportly fathered are able to eat well because the millionaire...... usaf-vet Oct 2022 #12
Shall we discuss the availability (or lack thereof) and affordability off food, niyad Oct 2022 #8
Eat the rich IronLionZion Oct 2022 #9
Good idea, eat the rich. Aussie105 Oct 2022 #39
And what about genetics? hoosierspud Oct 2022 #10
And people should teach their blood cells to be less insulin resistant!! grantcart Oct 2022 #11
Democrats have been promoting healthy eating for years genxlib Oct 2022 #13
Remember how Rush and the other GOP fools pilloried Michell Obama about her garden and school Samrob Oct 2022 #14
People with head injuries from football shouldn't have played football. The Jungle 1 Oct 2022 #17
Stupid is "STILL FUCKING STUPID" Sorry for the bad language. But it fits Walker exactly! Stuart G Oct 2022 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Yonnie3 Oct 2022 #23
The old diabetic diet before there was insulin was called the starvation diet Warpy Oct 2022 #25
You're so right about the improvements in diabetes treatment. ShazzieB Oct 2022 #36
The problem with those old Clinitest tablets was their person to person variability Warpy Oct 2022 #37
Eat right? Aussie105 Oct 2022 #26
All those football concussions are making him deteriorate quickly. My condolences to him. Wonder Why Oct 2022 #27
what does it say about voters that they are running neck and neck? samsingh Oct 2022 #28
I'll start eating right, as soon as Walker starts wearing condoms and paying child support. (nt) Paladin Oct 2022 #29
How could he refuse a deal like that? Aussie105 Oct 2022 #40

oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
19. Moderators aren't supposed to fact check debate participants.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 10:06 AM
Oct 2022

Their job is to run the debate only.

JohnSJ

(92,204 posts)
20. It isn't fact checking, it is following up on a blatant contradiction in his answers. In addition,
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 10:19 AM
Oct 2022

asking the questions such as, do you think such and such should run for President, has absolutely NOTHING to do with the duties of someone in the Senate.

They also didn't handle the audience very well.

In general, I think a live audience shouldn't be in a debate, because it runs it like a sporting event with a cheering section, and distracts from the issues being debated


Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
22. I disagree when Walker pulled out his big boy badge, Mommy Moderater had to scold him for
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 10:43 AM
Oct 2022

having a prop. Walker is brain damaged...don't know if he was always so or he got hit in the head once too often...or just has a low IQ but he clearly is unfit to serve in any capacity. I think Warnock wins.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
2. So, the Republican response to someone born with a defective pancreas
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 08:03 PM
Oct 2022

(Type I Diabetes) is to 'eat right'?

Once again, after you're born, the GOP doesn't give a shit about you.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
32. The list of things Walker doesn't know anything about
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 02:39 PM
Oct 2022

is probably as long as a googolplex written out longhand...

patphil

(6,180 posts)
4. You've got to eat right.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 08:09 PM
Oct 2022

Good, but useless information.
Of course people should eat right. But, that's not going to help the 37 million Americans who already have diabetes.
And it in no way addresses the federal bill, which is aimed at making insulin more affordable.
I get the feeling that Hershel Walker has no clue as to what the bill is about.
This guy doesn't belong in the Senate; we've already exceeded our quota of brainless Republican Senators.

https://diabetes.org/about-us/statistics/about-diabetes

I spent over 35 years in the Pharmaceutical Industry, and can say with all certainty that insulin isn't expensive to produce.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/insulin-costs-about-10-to-make-but-retails-for-nearly-300-pharmaceutical-companies-eli-lilly-novo-nordisk-sanofi-pbms-insuli/65-73a3cafd-3340-45cd-8324-a5e3e1c78fa5

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
24. Hershel Walker is curiosity-impaired
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 12:19 PM
Oct 2022

Which leads to cluelessness in general.


Question - Is the insulin being produced today quantitatively different than the Insulin which was produced 20 or 40 years ago? (Ignoring the formulation tweaks the industry does to create IP/patents).

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
35. I think that's what some white people like about him.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 05:19 PM
Oct 2022

He fits the stereotype of the goofy, slap happy black characters depicted in minstrel shows and 1930s comedy shorts. Walks around with a big old "Aw, shucks" grin on his face. Not too bright, but always cheerful and respectful to the white folks. Gross? Hell, yes, but some white people eat that stuff up. Combine that with his feats on the gridiron, and he's a certain type of white person's ideal black man.

They don't care about the domestic violence or the multiple children to whom he is an absentee father, because those things fit their stereotyped expectations of how black people behave. Paying for that abortion? What abortion? He said it didn't happen, you heard him! /sarcasm

Warnock is the polar opposite of Walker. He's well educated, articulate, dignified, and erudite; all qualities that some white people find disagreeable and intimidating in a black man and view as "uppity." (Just ask Barack Obama if you don't believe me.)

In short, Herschel Walker is the kind of black man Republicans are comfortable with, and because he is black, they get to pretend they're not racist when they vote for him.

I'm sure he has no clue how Republican election strategists see him. He's basking in the attention he's receiving by running for the Senate and is oblivious to the fact that people like us DUers think he's a laughing stock. It's actually very sad the way he's being used by the GOP to try to block Warnock from retaining his seat. Very sad and very racist.

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
12. I wonder if the kids' Walker reportly fathered are able to eat well because the millionaire......
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 10:14 PM
Oct 2022

.... apparently isn't paying child support for more than one of those kids.

niyad

(113,323 posts)
8. Shall we discuss the availability (or lack thereof) and affordability off food,
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:39 PM
Oct 2022

you brain-dead monster? Shall we discuss food deserts? Or how unhealthy so much of our food really is?

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
13. Democrats have been promoting healthy eating for years
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:00 PM
Oct 2022

But when people like Michelle Obama would say eat healthy then people like Sarah plain would lose their mind and buy cookies for children.

Because you know …freedom or something.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
14. Remember how Rush and the other GOP fools pilloried Michell Obama about her garden and school
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:24 PM
Oct 2022

healthier lunches. Palin was all in on mocking the healthier school lunch program. Too bad Hershel wasn't around then to help her out?

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
25. The old diabetic diet before there was insulin was called the starvation diet
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 07:33 PM
Oct 2022

and quite a few people did finally starve themselves to death on it. Blood sugar levels did fall and life expectancy was raised from days to months on it, enough time to tie up loose ends and say goodbye, but that was it.

So many things have changed in diabetes treatment since I've been drifting in and out of health care, from better lab tests to patient controlled fingerstick monitoring, from pork insulin to human insulin produced by gene splicing e. coli. They're even getting a handle on what causes Tupe I diabetes and talking cautiously of curing it. Insulin and better control of sugar levels meant people could live almost normal life spans as long as they controlled their glucose levels, balancing food, exercise, and diet.

Walker, as usual, doesn't know what he's talking about.

I do not want that big an ignoramus in the Senate and thinking he can make laws about health care for anyone, ever.

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
36. You're so right about the improvements in diabetes treatment.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 05:38 PM
Oct 2022

I'm old enough to remember when diabetics monitored their blood sugar by checking for sugar in their urine. Eventually somebody figured out how ineffective that was (evidently your blood sugar can get very high before it shows up in your urine), and the era of fingersticks became the norm. Now there are devices that can monitor blood sugar and you use an app on your phone to check your numbers. (Assuming your insurance will cover the device, which my husband's evidently won't. But that's a different conversation. *cough*)

Things have definitely changed greatly for the better.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
37. The problem with those old Clinitest tablets was their person to person variability
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 07:27 PM
Oct 2022

Some people would start spilling sugar at 200 while others would be in the 600s Titrating insulin to those things was pretty useless.

I'm old enough to remember insurance companies squawking about the finger stick glucometers, not realizing that patients who could control their blood sugar more tightly would have fewer complications and far fewer expensive hospitalizations.

They'll pay for your hubby's gadget after somebody goes upside their collective heads with a billy club.

Aussie105

(5,397 posts)
26. Eat right?
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 06:21 AM
Oct 2022

I wonder what he means by that?

Someone should ask him. Could be interesting!

Perhaps he could enter into an in depth discussion of implanting insulin producing stem cells into the pancreas of patients with type 1 diabetes?

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