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blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 05:45 PM Oct 2022

In reversal, Elon Musk says SpaceX will continue funding Starlink in Ukraine

Source: CBS News

Elon Musk on Saturday announced that his company would continue to pay for Starlink satellite internet in war-torn Ukraine, a day after suggesting he cannot keep funding the project.

"The hell with it," the world's richest man wrote on Twitter. "Even though Starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we'll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free."

Musk had said on Friday that SpaceX would not be able to pay for Starlink in Ukraine indefinitely.

And the U.S. military confirmed it was communicating with the billionaire's company about funding for the key network.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-spacex-funding-starlink-ukraine/?intcid=CNM-00-10abd1h

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In reversal, Elon Musk says SpaceX will continue funding Starlink in Ukraine (Original Post) blue-wave Oct 2022 OP
I've not paid attention to him. elleng Oct 2022 #1
Yes. There are 20,000 Starlink dishes in Ukraine, speak easy Oct 2022 #6
Thanks. elleng Oct 2022 #8
On the other hand ... :) speak easy Oct 2022 #9
faster than a Tucker Carlson monologue!!!! elleng Oct 2022 #12
I think he saw Beau of the Fifth column's vid.. The statement about cutting Starlink in Ukraine mitch96 Oct 2022 #24
I think that ship sailed for him now, anyways. Gore1FL Oct 2022 #34
Thank you Delphinus Oct 2022 #38
Google it!!! USALiberal Oct 2022 #31
I don't trust him ..... Lovie777 Oct 2022 #2
"the U.S. military confirmed it was communicating with [Starlink] about funding" speak easy Oct 2022 #3
I hope you are correct questionseverything Oct 2022 #14
This guy is so all over the place... it's a wonder that anyone would do business with him chowder66 Oct 2022 #4
see #3 IMO speak easy Oct 2022 #7
You know who really doesn't like him? The guys who founded Tesla. mahina Oct 2022 #20
I've read that and I don't blame them. chowder66 Oct 2022 #23
Poor little rich man bucolic_frolic Oct 2022 #5
Dude sounds remarkably like Trump...what a prick Docreed2003 Oct 2022 #10
that was my impression: Conjuay Oct 2022 #42
Musk isn't honest. sinkingfeeling Oct 2022 #11
+1000 blue-wave Oct 2022 #13
and another +1000. SalamanderSleeps Oct 2022 #19
Thank for pointing that out. SunSeeker Oct 2022 #27
The only reason the greedy billionaires do anything "out of the goodness Wonder Why Oct 2022 #35
His behavior just proves that public/private partnerships compromises our nations security Lulu Latech Oct 2022 #15
My theory of Musk is... nycbos Oct 2022 #16
Musk-rats can be force to retreat Maeve Oct 2022 #17
I hope he realizes that ... Kablooie Oct 2022 #18
I thought I read earlier today that he's being paid NQAS Oct 2022 #21
If he was pro Russia wouldn't they have the starlink instead of Ukraine? EX500rider Oct 2022 #25
Read post #11 blue-wave Oct 2022 #26
It's pocket change to the world's richest man, & he decided to take Putin's side after all... Hekate Oct 2022 #22
I think he needs more sleep. truthisfreedom Oct 2022 #28
Pentagon: There's not just SpaceX Eugene Oct 2022 #29
pocket change ShepKat Oct 2022 #30
Well, well, well... Karma13612 Oct 2022 #32
sums it up nicely stopdiggin Oct 2022 #36
+100000000000 Karma13612 Oct 2022 #41
He had to buy Twitter against his own will Shop olive Oct 2022 #33
Bet someone told him it's not in his best interests Aviation Pro Oct 2022 #37
Space X has been delivering supplies to the International Space Station since 2012. former9thward Oct 2022 #39
"Space X has been delivering supplies to the International Space Station since 2012." BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #40
We're being punk'd Heather MC Oct 2022 #43

speak easy

(9,257 posts)
6. Yes. There are 20,000 Starlink dishes in Ukraine,
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 05:52 PM
Oct 2022

which provide internet to military units, liberated towns, and backup for government. Ukraine has one of the most digitalized infrastructure and services provision in the world.

mitch96

(13,907 posts)
24. I think he saw Beau of the Fifth column's vid.. The statement about cutting Starlink in Ukraine
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 09:53 PM
Oct 2022

could put any further DoD spending for SpaceX in jeopardy.
With these guys it's all about the money...
m

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
34. I think that ship sailed for him now, anyways.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 09:31 AM
Oct 2022

He's shown he is both capable and willing to pull the plug at any time. Who wants a service like that?

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
38. Thank you
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 12:10 PM
Oct 2022

This is important information to refute Musk's comment (from the OP):

"The hell with it," the world's richest man wrote on Twitter. "Even though Starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we'll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free."

Musk had said on Friday that SpaceX would not be able to pay for Starlink in Ukraine indefinitely.

And the U.S. military confirmed it was communicating with the billionaire's company about funding for the key network.

speak easy

(9,257 posts)
3. "the U.S. military confirmed it was communicating with [Starlink] about funding"
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 05:49 PM
Oct 2022
"put out a statement that Ukraine won't be cut off, or you get nothing"

chowder66

(9,070 posts)
4. This guy is so all over the place... it's a wonder that anyone would do business with him
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 05:49 PM
Oct 2022

at this point. I'm glad he's helping Ukraine but I hope someone with a level head is actually doing what needs to be done.

mahina

(17,663 posts)
20. You know who really doesn't like him? The guys who founded Tesla.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 06:43 PM
Oct 2022

Which he takes credit for constantly

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
11. Musk isn't honest.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 06:03 PM
Oct 2022

SpaceX's letter to the Pentagon now gives a better look into who is funding Starlink in Ukraine. According to the letter, of the 20,000 Starlink terminals in Ukraine, around 85% were funded by third-parties like countries such as the U.S. and Poland. For SpaceX's part, the company has covered about 70% of the internet connectivity costs. SpaceX says the terminals costs anywhere from $1,500 to $2,500. Additionally, Starlink's highest level of service, which is what it provides to Ukraine, costs $4,500 per month.

Of course, this would be far from the first time Musk has asked the government for money. SpaceX has received billions of dollars over the years in government subsidies, so in a way the U.S. was already paying for Starlink for Ukraine. Now, Musk's just asking for more.

https://mashable.com/article/musk-spacex-starlink-ukraine-pentagon-funding

SunSeeker

(51,560 posts)
27. Thank for pointing that out.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 03:25 AM
Oct 2022

I wish every journalist covering Elon Musk's Starlink would mention that!

Wonder Why

(3,205 posts)
35. The only reason the greedy billionaires do anything "out of the goodness
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:16 AM
Oct 2022

of their heats" is when others are paying for it. Probably he CIA is funding it and Musk is probably overcharging them by adding "fees", "modem rental" and requiring automatic payments, online billing and binding arbitration from the CIA.

Lulu Latech

(29,098 posts)
15. His behavior just proves that public/private partnerships compromises our nations security
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 06:09 PM
Oct 2022

My guess is that Musk got a stern talking to by some powerful stakeholders in our government. We certainly don't need to continue to fund a loose cannon.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
16. My theory of Musk is...
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 06:09 PM
Oct 2022

... he doesn't care if he gets good press or bad press. Just as long as he gets to see his name in the news.

He follows the "there is no such thing as bad publicity" school of thought.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
17. Musk-rats can be force to retreat
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 06:14 PM
Oct 2022

But it takes direct confrontation.

I actually helped my dad skin muskrats we trapped in our pond back in the day....there was a bounty on them

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
18. I hope he realizes that ...
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 06:15 PM
Oct 2022

His technical assistance is appreciated but his political advice is abhorrent.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
21. I thought I read earlier today that he's being paid
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 06:45 PM
Oct 2022

Somebody needs to clear this up.

Is starling units being purchased by someone or sons country? Are the spacex Services being paid for?

Given musk’s pro Russia stance, how c add n we be sure the Russians aren’t intercepting communications over starlink?

Lots of questions. Lots of muddied waters. What a vile creature.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
22. It's pocket change to the world's richest man, & he decided to take Putin's side after all...
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 07:12 PM
Oct 2022

While I am relieved he’s changed his mind (for now) , his record of jerking large numbers of people around mitigates my sympathy and fellow-feeling.

Eugene

(61,899 posts)
29. Pentagon: There's not just SpaceX
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 05:32 AM
Oct 2022
‘There’s not just SpaceX’: Pentagon looks beyond Starlink after Musk says he may end services in Ukraine

“There’s not just SpaceX, there are other entities that we can certainly partner with when it comes to providing Ukraine with what they need on the battlefield,” Sabrina Singh, the Pentagon’s deputy press secretary, said when asked about the report. “I’m not going to show our hand right now on exactly what those are or who we’re talking to.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/14/starlink-ukraine-elon-musk-pentagon-00061896

Among other things, SpaceX is a defense contractor, and government contracts help keep the lights on. Elon just bit the hand that feeds him.

ShepKat

(383 posts)
30. pocket change
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 06:33 AM
Oct 2022

he sweeps that kind of money off the floor. HAHA nah...
he pays people to sweep money like that off the floor. There, I fixed it.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
32. Well, well, well...
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:03 AM
Oct 2022

All I can say is, how did a business person EVER become so successful as Elon by being so unreliable and capricious???

He keeps pulling this crap and thinks people won’t eventually catch on. If I were potentially going to do business with this little $hit, I’d walk away. Right now.

To the world:

Stop dealing with this heartless, egotistical, compassion-lacking man baby. We aren’t a TV film-set for Billions. This is real life with real consequences which exist after you turn off the TV.



CAFM

stopdiggin

(11,314 posts)
36. sums it up nicely
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 11:32 AM
Oct 2022

And, in particular - the U.S. government, and military, needs to take a hard look at the advisability of any dealings with such a capricious entity. Profoundly destabilizing to have a business partner crashing around like a bull in a china shop. The government needs to seek out more solid footing. (investors would be well advised to do the same)

Aviation Pro

(12,169 posts)
37. Bet someone told him it's not in his best interests
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 11:49 AM
Oct 2022

"Nice Space-X contract ya got there, Mollusk, be a shame if anything should happen to it."

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
39. Space X has been delivering supplies to the International Space Station since 2012.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 12:34 PM
Oct 2022

They have started delivering astronauts to the station recently. Who else can do that?

BumRushDaShow

(129,059 posts)
40. "Space X has been delivering supplies to the International Space Station since 2012."
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 01:29 PM
Oct 2022

Boeing with its Starliner craft that docked with ISS for the first time this past May - https://www.space.com/boeing-starliner-docking-international-space-station





 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
43. We're being punk'd
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:11 PM
Oct 2022

Every other week this man changes his mind about something.

I wonder if he makes an Announcement in public, Like "I'm not going to buy Twitter", or "I'm not going to maintain star link", As a way to call for funding of some kind out loud, but in transactions are done in secret.

I just think there's something deeper behind all of this than him just being a bumbling idiot.🤷🏾‍♀️

Look how trump portrays himself as a bumbling idiot but then we find out he orchestrated
January 6th.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the Orange monkey is a genius lol no one could keep that act up for this long. I do think these distractions are unintentional

So what is the truth in what Elon was doing? Did he signal a way to get more money for this for the things that he didn't want to pay for anymore? I don't know. 🤷🏾‍♀️

It's just weird how men like Elon, Orange monkey, and that My Pillow idiot Are constantly announcing things in the media, stuff that you would think they wouldn't want people to know.

I think they figured out they can do business out in the open and nobody will suspect anything. If they behave Seemingly erratically, we will ignore when they're actually putting truth out there that they want someone to know that's not us

Like when Michael Landell said the FBI told me not to say anything, but they took my phone they took everything I have no way to conduct business. He was making sure somebody that he wanted to hear him, knew he was compromised.

That's the only thing that makes sense about these men and their big mouths. 🤔🤔🤔

And then the media plays along by asking dumb questions like "well if he does it out in the open is it really a crime"?
And constantly asking hmmm "is this illegal does"? or "Does this really meet the snuff test for a crime"?

It just seems very odd doesn't it?

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