Exclusive: Iran agrees to ship missiles, more drones to Russia, defying the West

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Source: Reuters

Oct 18 (Reuters) - Iran has promised to provide Russia with surface to surface missiles, in addition to more drones, two senior Iranian officials and two Iranian diplomats told Reuters, a move that is likely to infuriate the United States and other Western powers.

A deal was agreed on Oct. 6 when Iran's First Vice President Mohammad Mokhber, two senior officials from Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guards and an official from the Supreme National Security Council visited Moscow for talks with Russia about the delivery of the weapons.

"The Russians had asked for more drones and those Iranian ballistic missiles with improved accuracy, particularly the Fateh and Zolfaghar missiles family," said one of the Iranian diplomats, who was briefed about the trip.

A Western official briefed on the matter confirmed it, saying there was an agreement in place between Iran and Russia to provide surface-to-surface short range ballistic missiles, including the Zolfaghar.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/exclusive-iran-agrees-ship-missiles-more-drones-russia-defying-west-sources-2022-10-18/

[GreenWave]

1. Axis of evil is forming.

[Lovie777]

2. Iran and Russia claims it's a lie!......................

[turbinetree]

5. I guess the drones and other crap falling into building with Iranian markings on them are fake....

according to these two sociopathic countries and its leaders....they really can go pound sand......the world deserves a better place....than having these two in there current form of governments, one being run by a zealot and the other being run by a zealot....

[bronxiteforever]

3. Iranians in leadership are proud killers of women & children

Cowards and bullies. Death to the Dictators!
Remember those fighting for freedom in Iran and Glory to Ukraine!

[DFW]

4. If it's true, and if we know where these things are being made (and we should)

I don't see why we shouldn't have a cruise missile or two pay the manufacturing facility a courtesy visit.

What's our downside, making the mullahs and ayatollahs dislike us? I would bet there is some serious internal dissent in Iran already as to whether sending death rockets to Putin to use on Ukrainian civilians is a particularly wise move. What did the Ukrainians ever do to Iran, anyway? Spill Coca-Cola on a Persian carpet?

[wnylib]

10. I'd agree, but wouldn't that unite Iranians against a common enemy?

Right now they are divided over women's rights and could make some internal changes (new government?) if the internal unrest continues. But, give them a common enemy, like their favorite nation to hate (besides Israel) and they might unite together, trading the "evil Satan" at home for one from abroad.

EDIT. See #7 for a similar idea that might work better.
But, depending on who the suppliers are, it could risk bringing more countries into the fight.

[DFW]

26. That depends on how tight their news censorship is

Given the women’s uprising, I’d say not too tight. If word gets out that their government is sponsoring the bombing of innocent civilians, I don’t think too many protests against the action would occur unless we end up bombing a hospital by mistake.

[wnylib]

29. Good points.

[Lonestarblue]

18. Sounds like a good idea. Another is to monitor the shipment and confiscate it.

I assume we have enough satellite surveillance to track such things. Then send the confiscated shipment to Ukraine.

[DFW]

27. Geography is an obstacle there

If they are shipped overland or by air, the logistics of interception get very dicey. Even if by ship on the Caspian Sea, whose navy does the interception?

Iran has no beef with the Ukrainians. This is strictly a dual commercial plus a “please Putin” move.

[manicdem]

30. Terrorism and nukes

It would lead to a war with Iran, though not in a conventional sense. Iran would ramp up terrorism again, against the US and allies. And ramp up their nuclear weapons research and production.

Then this would lead to an arms race and more conflict in the middle east again.

[heckles65]

6. The difference between Iran and Saudi Arabia is

Iran will flip us the bird to our face. Saudi Arabia waits until our back is turned.

Also while I despise both countries' leadership, Iran is unquestionably a country. Saudi Arabia is a tribe with a flag.

[ancianita]

7. Iran breaks Western sanctions. Bomb Iran's suppliers & supply lines with allied drones and missiles

Forget how furious the US and West are. Just stop it.

[OneCrazyDiamond]

8. Wouldn't it be great

if we had some sort of international agreement with Iran that kept them inline with the rest of the sane world.

[Unwind Your Mind]

16. This nt

[DFW]

28. Ah yes. A sane world

But in a sane world, president Hillary Clinton would be in the middle of her second term, reaching out to re-establish diplomatic relations with Iran, just like Obama did with Cuba in his second term.

[lark]

9. Hopefully the US & West can send counter-measures to Ukraine.

Like ASAP!!!

[PortTack]

11. I did see talks for more sanctions for Iran. Besides sanctions, we need to give Ukraine EVERYTHING

They are asking for..and NOW!

[doc03]

14. Sanctions aren't working. I hear prices have gone up in Russia and some shortages of things.

We have the same thing here and we might lose our own democracy trying to save it in Ukraine. If you
can believe the polls gas prices and inflation are killing us.

[PortTack]

17. Actually the sanctions are working in Russia. But I was referring to discussion about sanctions

Against Iran

This is just one of many in a search

https://ge.usembassy.gov/international-sanctions-are-working-russia-feels-economic-pressure/

Inflation and gas prices are world wide. This is a war for the very survival of the free world, while Ukraine fights for it’s very survival as a ppl and we have a scratch on our knee. I will gladly pay more at the pump and cut back on buying anything to help this cause.

We will lose our democracy if we don’t fight for what we believe in. Putin may be another dotard, but he is a big player on the world state right now and has his hands all on the throat of our democracy. He needs to be stopped or other free countries…our allies will fall..we can’t do that!

If we give in now, prices, inflation in coming years will be controlled by the blackmailer in chief. We cannot continue to buy energy from Russia..give in to his desires and this is what we will give our children.

[FredGarvin]

20. This is a game changer for Putin

These Iranian missiles have 5 times the range and 6 times the weapons load of anything Ukrainians have.
There are thousands in Iran ready to be shipped.
The Iranian drones are flea bites compared to these missile systems.

[PortTack]

22. Worrisome...I'm sure this is a top priority discussion for President Zelensky, the US and NATO

And how to deter this latest threat.

They can’t win on the battlefield, so this what they do, and yes it’s awful. They will not break the will of the Ukrainian ppl, it only makes them more determined.

Gen Mark Hertling, Gen Ben Rhoades and GenDavid Petraeus- all retired, have all discussed Russia’s use of these terror tactics and althou horrific they all agree a war cannot be won lobbing missiles. It has to be won on the battlefield. And, right now the brave Ukrainian soldiers are handing Poopin his ass.

[doc03]

12. Maybe it is time we let Ukraine fight the war without one hand tied behind

its back. How can you defeat an enemy when one side can hit you by air and you can't retaliate?
If we can't do that maybe, we should have stayed out of it in the first place.

[FredGarvin]

15. Imagine these Iranian missiles being provided with real time sat guided coords

This could be a backbreaker for both Ukrainian civil infrastructure, cities and military assets alike.
Bad news

[Emrys]

31. I'm imagining somebody infiltrating/hacking the production lines

and reprogramming the missiles' guidance systems to home back in on wherever launched them.

IIRC, the Russians had to replace/upgrade the guidance systems on an earlier tranche of drones that were delivered, so maybe someone among Russia's burgeoning insurgency is taking advantage of that and is on the case already ...

[FredGarvin]

13. The Iranian Fateh-110 is no joke

3 times the range of US HIMARS missiles provided to Ukraine.
Mach 3 - 4 with 5 meter accuracy.
The warhead is 6 times larger than what the US provided Ukraine's HIMARS systems.
These missiles are the real deal and Iran has thousands of them.

This is really bad news for Ukraine's people.

This is really bad...

[Corgigal]

19. Arm the women.

Airlift it to them.

Let the ladies fight to overturn their corrupt government.

[FredGarvin]

21. Russian men and women alike are for this genocide.

Generations of dictator worship

[PortTack]

24. They were until they weren't..now that russians are being snatched off the streets, 400,000 having

Fled russia it’s up close and personal now.

[maxsolomon]

23. Shipping should be vulnerable to attack.

Too bad Ukraine doesn't have submarines.

[PortTack]

25. Indeed. The Ukrainians have been spectacular at blowing up ammo and missile stocks.

Slava Ukraine!