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BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:10 PM Oct 2022

Biden to release 15M barrels from oil reserve, more possible

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden will announce the release of 15 million barrels of oil from the U.S. strategic reserve Wednesday as part of a response to recent production cuts announced by OPEC+ nations, and he will say more oil sales are possible this winter, as his administration rushes to be seen as pulling out all the stops ahead of next month’s midterm elections.

Biden will deliver remarks Wednesday to announce the drawdown from the strategic reserve, senior administration officials said Tuesday on the condition of anonymity to outline Biden’s plans. It completes the release of 180 million barrels over six months authorized by Biden in March. That has sent the strategic reserve to its lowest level since 1984 in what the president called a “bridge” until domestic production could be increased. The reserve now contains roughly 400 million barrels of oil.

Biden will also open the door to additional releases this winter in an effort to bring prices down, but administration officials would not detail how much the president would be willing to tap and the conditions under which he would do so.

Biden will also say that the U.S. government will restock the strategic reserve when oil prices are at or lower than $67 to $72 a barrel, an offer that administration officials argue will increase domestic production by guaranteeing a baseline level of demand even if prices fall. Yet the president is also expected to renew his criticism of the profits reaped by oil companies — repeating a bet made this summer that public condemnation would matter more to these companies than shareholders’ focus on returns.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-putin-biden-climate-and-environment-government-politics-7fa1a7e4c1d2196856566f9401d8369b

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Biden to release 15M barrels from oil reserve, more possible (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 OP
Good move by Biden! Fiendish Thingy Oct 2022 #1
That's not even two days of Saudi production. Effete Snob Oct 2022 #2
Couple other things going on under the radar BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #6
The Maduro government is an elected government Farmer-Rick Oct 2022 #18
I know I have posted before BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #20
Yeah, I think Biden knows Farmer-Rick Oct 2022 #21
If tfg had really filled the strategic reserve louis-t Oct 2022 #3
What happens if we really need the oil? OtterDave Oct 2022 #4
We pump out about 12 million bbls/day BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #7
Yes, but what happens if we really need the oil? OtterDave Oct 2022 #9
For what? BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #10
Its supposed to be there for the military in case supplies are disrupted oldsoftie Oct 2022 #13
That Strategic Petroleum Reserve was implemented in 1975 BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #15
And the country uses about 20.5 million barrels per day True Dough Oct 2022 #11
100+million barrels a day worldwide. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #12
I posted that above BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #14
"We pump out about 12 million bbls/day" Jack the Greater Oct 2022 #26
I never said it was from the Reserve BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #27
Not to be a contrarian, but . . . . no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #5
Perhaps BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #8
15 million barrels will not affect the price anyway. former9thward Oct 2022 #17
GOOD orangecrush Oct 2022 #16
So even more profit goes into the pockets of the oil industry? FakeNoose Oct 2022 #19
In this case, the government is "selling" BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #22
OK, but it still doesn't help us consumers FakeNoose Oct 2022 #23
Well unless you use oil heat for winter BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #24
Considering that the world blows through 90 million barrels/day, what possible impact can this have Jack the Greater Oct 2022 #25
Remember that the U.S. is NOT the only one doing this BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #28
The price of oil is spiking FredGarvin Oct 2022 #29
The price has been volatile BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #31
Oil is spiking higher today. FredGarvin Oct 2022 #30
No. BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #32

Fiendish Thingy

(15,615 posts)
1. Good move by Biden!
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:16 PM
Oct 2022

I’m glad to hear he will release more if needed. This will only make up for about a week of OPEC’s cutback, so I think he will likely need to release more before Election Day.

In the meantime, I hope Sec. Blinken and Biden are thinking about ways to retaliate against Saudi Arabia; perhaps redirecting shipments of US arms from SA to Ukraine would be a good start…after the election.

BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
6. Couple other things going on under the radar
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:38 PM
Oct 2022
With Migration Surging, U.S. Considers Easing Sanctions on Venezuela

The Biden administration may allow the last American company producing oil in Venezuela to resume exports if the Maduro government takes steps to restore democracy.


By Natalie Kitroeff and Anatoly Kurmanaev
Oct. 12, 2022


The crush of migration at the southern border and the energy war against Russia has created renewed urgency within the Biden administration to reshape the relationship with oil-rich Venezuela. The discussions, which U.S. officials say revolve around restarting oil exports from Venezuela to the United States if the country takes steps to restore democracy, could spur a major diplomatic shift with Washington’s staunchest adversary in South America.

Since President Biden took office, the administration has signaled an openness to rapprochement with Venezuela in exchange for a democratic opening, partly because some U.S. officials believe that a purely hard line approach has failed to push the government of President Nicolás Maduro away from autocracy.

But there is increasing pressure on the administration to work toward a deal, analysts say, after the world’s biggest oil producers decided to cut production this month and with Venezuelan migration to the United States soaring. Now, U.S. officials within the State Department and the White House are exploring specific ideas for when and how to ease sanctions in response to concrete actions by the Maduro government.

The administration is moving closer to allowing Chevron, the last American company producing oil in Venezuela, to resume exports from the country, according to a senior Biden administration official and two people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to speak publicly.

(snip)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/world/americas/venezuela-us-sanctions.html

^^^I have been semi-following this

October 18, 20223:16 PM EDT
Last Updated 4 hours ago

Oil prices settle lower on U.S. supply, lower China demand

By Laura Sanicola



Oct 18 (Reuters) - Oil prices settled lower on Tuesday on fears of higher U.S. supply combined with an economic slowdown and lower Chinese fuel demand. Brent crude futures settled down $1.59, or 1.7%, to $90.03 per barrel, while U.S. West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude settled down $2.64, or 3.1%, to $82.82 per barrel.

China, the world's top crude oil importer, indefinitely delayed release of economic indicators originally scheduled to be published on Tuesday, indicating to the market that fuel demand is significantly depressed in the region. "It's not a good sign when China decides not to publish economic figures," said John Kilduff, partner at Again Capital LLC in New York.

China's adherence to its zero-COVID policy has continued to increase uncertainties about the country's economic growth, CMC Markets analyst Tina Teng said. Oil prices were also pressured by reports that the U.S. government would continue releasing crude oil from reserves. The Biden administration plans to sell oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in an effort to cool fuel prices before next month's congressional elections, sources told Reuters on Monday.

In addition, U.S. crude oil stocks were expected to have risen for a second consecutive week, a preliminary Reuters poll showed on Monday. Output in the Permian Basin of Texas and New Mexico, the biggest U.S. shale oil basin, is forecast to rise by about 50,000 barrels per day (bpd) to a record 5.453 million bpd this month, the Energy Information Administration said.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-prices-steady-us-dollar-weakness-recession-fears-weigh-2022-10-18/

Farmer-Rick

(10,172 posts)
18. The Maduro government is an elected government
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 10:55 AM
Oct 2022

It is a more legitimate government then what Russia or Saudi have. Yeah, it's a socialist government get over it.

The US baked Pinochet style attacks on the elected government didn't take, but the Trump administration tried. I bet Trump even got to make a grab for Juan Guaidó's young wife.

BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
20. I know I have posted before
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 11:11 AM
Oct 2022

that people forget how long Biden was in the Senate and how he was Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for years (as well as for the more-well known Judiciary Committee). So he knows all about the foreign political behind-the-scenes stuff and how that works and was previously set up - both from the congressional standpoint AND as VP for 8 years.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
3. If tfg had really filled the strategic reserve
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:21 PM
Oct 2022

when oil was $10 a barrel like he said he did (he didn't), we would be in a much better position.

BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
7. We pump out about 12 million bbls/day
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:56 PM
Oct 2022
https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/us_oil.php

These oil "spats" tend to be transitory and there are rumors that China may be about to or is experiencing a major slow-down and they are certainly the 2nd largest oil consumer (which would then start to trigger some price drops due to what would then be a significant drop in demand).

BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
10. For what?
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:22 PM
Oct 2022

We use (unrestricted) about 20 million bbls/day and with pumping ~ 12 million bbls/day, that would leave about 8 million bbls/day deficit if solely relying on ourselves.

We are currently at about 408 million bbls still in the reserve - https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_ending_stocks_of_crude_oil_in_the_strategic_petroleum_reserve



By law, they can go down to a bit less than 1/2 of that.

The issue is not so much crude oil, but gasoline and refinery capacity. We can dump oil out there but that doesn't necessarily increase the amount of available gasoline. But the move is to quiet this lovely "free market" mess that this world engages in while they get other sources of oil (like Venezuela) back into the global market.

True Dough

(17,305 posts)
11. And the country uses about 20.5 million barrels per day
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:28 PM
Oct 2022

So the release from the strategic reserves doesn't even equate to a single day's worth. It's staggering how much oil is consumed in the U.S. and around the world!

BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
14. I posted that above
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:36 PM
Oct 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2983132

But note that if you have all the prognosticators claiming that we are "headed for a recession" then oil demand is going to drop and if they keep artificially trying to jack the prices up, they will end up cutting off their noses to spite their face.

They are still trying to make up for the losses from their idiotic decision to get into a production war with Russia during the pandemic leading to this -



where they had to offer to PAY that much per bbl to store the excess!

Jack the Greater

(601 posts)
26. "We pump out about 12 million bbls/day"
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 01:47 PM
Oct 2022

True, but not from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. That is the amount pumped from the ground.

BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
27. I never said it was from the Reserve
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 01:55 PM
Oct 2022

which is why there was a link in my post to exactly what I was talking about.

no_hypocrisy

(46,113 posts)
5. Not to be a contrarian, but . . . .
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:36 PM
Oct 2022

what's to keep the Saudis and OPEC from further reducing their imports to maintain their desired price per barrel in response to President Biden's release our strategic supply?

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
17. 15 million barrels will not affect the price anyway.
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 09:07 PM
Oct 2022

With world demand at 100 million barrels a day this release is about 3 hours worth of oil demand. Prices won't down at all.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
19. So even more profit goes into the pockets of the oil industry?
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 11:04 AM
Oct 2022

The solution to our problem is price controls, combined with corporate taxes on profits. Just putting more oil out for sale doesn't help consumers pay those exorbitant prices.

BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
22. In this case, the government is "selling"
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 11:16 AM
Oct 2022

That is what happens when they "release" oil out of the reserves (they offer contracts for someone to buy what we have stored).

So assuming we tend to "fill" the reserve when the price is lower, then when we sell now, it is at a much higher price than we paid, so that should be a profit for the government that goes into the Treasury.

BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
24. Well unless you use oil heat for winter
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 11:44 AM
Oct 2022

releasing "crude" is not going to directly help the consumer. It's for affecting the world market and "expected" global supply because that is how they work commodities like this, along with wheat and pork bellies and gold, etc.

Unless we completely go "off the world grid" and become "isolationalist", then we are stuck with these prices absent price controls (which were tried in the '70s and sadly made things worse and were thwarted - brief history here).

What is needed is more refinery capacity locally so that the oil we do have can produce more gasoline and cause those gasoline wholesalers to get up off those high prices to the retailers.

Fortunately our current President had been in the Senate (and in consultation with a past one) when all that happened in the '70s -


Then-President Jimmy Carter listening to former Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) at a fundraising reception in 1978. | AP Photo/Barry Thumma, File

Jack the Greater

(601 posts)
25. Considering that the world blows through 90 million barrels/day, what possible impact can this have
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 01:42 PM
Oct 2022

on oil prices? If he were to release 15 million barrels every day, then I could see that driving prices lower, but that is impossible because the maximum draw-down capacity of the US Petroleum Reserve is about 4.4 million barrels a day, and even if he could release 15 million barrels a day, there is less than a month's supply at that rate.

BumRushDaShow

(129,016 posts)
28. Remember that the U.S. is NOT the only one doing this
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 02:06 PM
Oct 2022

There are other countries who have participated with us the past year (note the date of the Fact Sheet below regarding when this effort was first announced) -

November 23, 2021
President Biden Announces Release from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve As Part of Ongoing Efforts to Lower Prices and Address Lack of Supply Around the World



| Briefing Room | Statements and Releases


Announcement is in parallel with other major energy consuming nations, including China, India, Japan, Republic of Korea, and the United Kingdom

(snip)

Today, the President is announcing that the Department of Energy will make available releases of 50 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to lower prices for Americans and address the mismatch between demand exiting the pandemic and supply.

The President has been working with countries across the world to address the lack of supply as the world exits the pandemic. And, as a result of President Biden’s leadership and our diplomatic efforts, this release will be taken in parallel with other major energy consuming nations including China, India, Japan, Republic of Korea and the United Kingdom. This culminates weeks of consultations with countries around the world, and we are already seeing the effect of this work on oil prices. Over the last several weeks as reports of this work became public, oil prices are down nearly 10 percent.

The U.S. Department of Energy will make available releases of 50 million barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in two ways:

  • 32 million barrels will be an exchange over the next several months, releasing oil that will eventually return to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in the years ahead. The exchange is a tool matched to today’s specific economic environment, where markets expect future oil prices to be lower than they are today, and helps provide relief to Americans immediately and bridge to that period of expected lower oil prices. The exchange also automatically provides for re-stocking of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve over time to meet future needs.
  • 18 million barrels will be an acceleration into the next several months of a sale of oil that Congress had previously authorized.


  • (snip)

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/11/23/president-biden-announces-release-from-the-strategic-petroleum-reserve-as-part-of-ongoing-efforts-to-lower-prices-and-address-lack-of-supply-around-the-world/

    FredGarvin

    (477 posts)
    29. The price of oil is spiking
    Wed Oct 19, 2022, 02:13 PM
    Oct 2022

    Releasing 20MM barrels of oil to who?
    One days worth of oil.
    Is this a gift to big oil?

    Another bailout for big oil

    BumRushDaShow

    (129,016 posts)
    31. The price has been volatile
    Wed Oct 19, 2022, 02:27 PM
    Oct 2022

    Earlier in the week it was falling. It goes up and down like the stock market. It has been generaly running in the $80 - $90/bbl range. It's nowhere near the high that it was earlier this year -


    (below a snapshot of the past year Oct 2021 - Oct 2022 from here - https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/cl.1/charts?mod=mw_quote_tab)



    And remember that when we "release" this is not the oil companies doing it. As I posted here -
    https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2983269

    this is oil that WE (government) bought when it was cheap (mostly during 2020) and are now selling contracts for it. So the government gets the "profit".

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