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blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 02:43 PM Oct 2022

Ukraine urges global ban of Russia's RT after presenter calls for drowning of Ukrainian children

Source: Reuters

Ukraine branded the Russian state-controlled RT media outlet as an inciter of genocide on Sunday after a presenter said Ukrainian children who saw Russians as occupiers under the Soviet Union should have been drowned.

In a show broadcast last week, RT presenter Anton Krasovsky said children who criticised Russia should have been "thrown straight into a river with a strong current".

Krasovsky - a pro-war commentator on Russian TV who has been sanctioned by the European Union - was responding to an account by Russian science fiction author Sergei Lukyanenko about how, when he first visited Ukraine in the 1980s, children told him they would live better lives were it not for Moscow occupying their country.

"They should have been drowned in the Tysyna (river)," Krasovsky said in response. "Just drown those children, drown them." Alternatively, he said, they could be shoved into huts and burned.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-urges-global-ban-russias-rt-after-presenter-calls-drowning-ukrainian-2022-10-23/



There is something very sick in Russian society for genocidal propaganda to be so easily broadcast.
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Ukraine urges global ban of Russia's RT after presenter calls for drowning of Ukrainian children (Original Post) blue-wave Oct 2022 OP
Your postscript: Yup! Said it for years. Grins Oct 2022 #1
And the upsetting thing about it ....... Lovie777 Oct 2022 #2
This has been Russian culture for hundreds of years. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #3
I would HOPE So.. any so called Cha Oct 2022 #4
This is what trump, Kevin, marge, and cons want to happen to children because pro life? 🤷‍♀️ onecaliberal Oct 2022 #5
They are just not as far along as the RT broadcaster not fooled Oct 2022 #6
I've found a lot of their raw video very good Warpy Oct 2022 #7
Wow, drowning children like sickos drown unwanted animals Farmer-Rick Oct 2022 #8
The U.N. Security Council.... SergeStorms Oct 2022 #9
Part of their... 2naSalit Oct 2022 #16
You're correct. SergeStorms Oct 2022 #20
If you watch the video, you'll see the presenter makes at least one other hideous comment. Old Crow Oct 2022 #10
As a gay man... skypilot Oct 2022 #13
I heard over half of Russian military men are gay OtterDave Oct 2022 #25
WHO CARES? 😠 ShazzieB Oct 2022 #32
I had to google this guy... skypilot Oct 2022 #11
Different norms Marcuse Oct 2022 #12
Russia is a terrorist state dlk Oct 2022 #14
Seems that's all they've ever been. 2naSalit Oct 2022 #17
Anton Krasovsky dalton99a Oct 2022 #15
Ukraine makes a very good point - banning RT would be good for the Western World FakeNoose Oct 2022 #18
What's wrong with Russian society? Much of it is this.... paleotn Oct 2022 #19
Fucking vile and I wish them dead. Anyone that thinks in these terms needs to not be here anymore. Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #21
I recently tried to fact-check a source. snot Oct 2022 #22
"Thom" Hartmann was paid handsomely by RT to sow discord PSPS Oct 2022 #23
Sorry, but nothing is low enough that a huge swath of Americans won't still support Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2022 #24
That was even too much for his handlers in the Kremlin... TomWilm Oct 2022 #26
United Nations should come to agreement on getting rid of Putin and his entourage... like yesterday. Linda Ed Oct 2022 #27
I wish I could shoot him in the gut. Ilsa Oct 2022 #28
Krasovsky: Russia bans 'burn Ukrainian kids' TV presenter Eugene Oct 2022 #29
Question about this video intrepidity Oct 2022 #30
They're Putin's outlet Roetdoe Oct 2022 #31

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
6. They are just not as far along as the RT broadcaster
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 03:46 PM
Oct 2022

rooting for taking children from their families at the border is the prequel to what he said, as is allowing pregnant women to sicken and die for the sake of "life."

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
7. I've found a lot of their raw video very good
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 04:26 PM
Oct 2022

but that's in the past. They don't do actual reporting any more, they're just another prop under Putin.

It's really too bad, so few news outlets post raw video without commentary.

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
8. Wow, drowning children like sickos drown unwanted animals
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 04:51 PM
Oct 2022

Wow, that is pretty awful. Do the Russian people go along with this? Are they in favor of drowning Ukraine children who do not like them?

This is very dark and ugly.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
9. The U.N. Security Council....
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 04:55 PM
Oct 2022

should boot Russia's ass the hell off.

I suppose China would carry their water for them though.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
20. You're correct.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 06:15 PM
Oct 2022

They want to rule the world, just like republicans want to rule the U.S.

Permanent minority rule over the vast majority. How freaking sick is that, and they're getting away with it! People are just too damned caught up in their own little lives to think about the big picture.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
10. If you watch the video, you'll see the presenter makes at least one other hideous comment.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 05:14 PM
Oct 2022

He scoffs at the idea that Russian soldiers were raping local populations and says (I'm quoting the translation): "God -- Ukrainian grannies would spend their burial savings to get raped by Russian soldiers."

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
32. WHO CARES? 😠
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 05:20 PM
Oct 2022

Whether that's true or not, it's an utterly meaningless "statistic" with a powerful stench of underlying homophobia.

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
11. I had to google this guy...
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 05:21 PM
Oct 2022

...to see what such a monster looks like and it turns out that he is a gay man; a gay man living in a country where some people think that gays should be killed. And yet he spews this shit.

Marcuse

(7,482 posts)
12. Different norms
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 05:22 PM
Oct 2022
When Elizabeth, the second-eldest daughter of Tsar Peter the Great, seized the Russian throne in a coup, she dismissed the youngest Russian monarch from power. Ivan VI lost the throne at the age of one.

The child was sent away from the capital and spent the rest of his life in captivity under a constant threat of death as the guards were instructed to kill the boy on the spot should any attempt to free him or even a call for it would have been voiced.

The child was stripped of his identity, the ability to socialize and even name: even the guards were banned from talking to “the nameless one”, as the child was referred to.

Ivan’s sufferings and his life ended abruptly on July 5, 1764, when an officer in the Imperial Russian Army had learned of the captive’s identity and attempted to free the ousted emperor and restore him in power. The guards of the Shlisselburg fortress acted according to their sinister instructions and put the young royal to death as soon as they learned about the conspiracy.

[link:https://www.rbth.com/history/335271-cruel-violent-murders-of-russian-tsars|

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
18. Ukraine makes a very good point - banning RT would be good for the Western World
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 05:52 PM
Oct 2022

I'm not sure how it would hurt Pootie, but at least he'd have to work a little harder at spreading his disinformation.

I've never received the RT channel however I have seen their website a few times, so I know what they are. They spread disunity and disinformation in English to the English-speaking world, while preventing their own Russian citizens from learning any truth about the rest of humanity.

paleotn

(17,915 posts)
19. What's wrong with Russian society? Much of it is this....
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 05:55 PM
Oct 2022

They've sold their souls to a brutal dictator and his evil regime in order to gain some level of political and economic stability, particularly in St. Pete and Moscow. That's why many longed for a return of Soviet communism back in the turbulent 90's. It sucked, but it was a stable suck they could rely on. Putin generally doesn't fuck with the average, big city populace and they allow him to be, in essence, dictator for life.

Putin is currently breaking his part of the bargain. No idea where this will end.

Evolve Dammit

(16,733 posts)
21. Fucking vile and I wish them dead. Anyone that thinks in these terms needs to not be here anymore.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 06:25 PM
Oct 2022

I don't care how if you have this in your heart and soul. This is not being part of humanity. It is criminally insane.

snot

(10,529 posts)
22. I recently tried to fact-check a source.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 07:40 PM
Oct 2022

I couldn't, because the source had been banned, posts deleted, from every major platform. I was unable to figure out what he might actually have written, who's published him, how he's funded, etc. etc. It was frustrating; it was impossible to fact-check the claim or vet the source because everything about them had been censored off the net – yet the censorship had not stopped the claim from being circulated by a major conservative outlet.

#criticalvetting_NOTcensorship

Censors inevitably not only make mistakes but abuse their power. Relying on them to control what you can see means signing away all your power and therefore all your rights.

PSPS

(13,598 posts)
23. "Thom" Hartmann was paid handsomely by RT to sow discord
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 07:47 PM
Oct 2022

I don't know if RT is carried on any US stations anymore but, when it was, there was "Thom" Hartmann yapping away, often with the "helpful input" of Bernie Sanders. While a lot of his critical jabbering was aimed at republicans, he also attacked democrats who, apparently, failed to meet the Bernie Sanders Standard.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
24. Sorry, but nothing is low enough that a huge swath of Americans won't still support
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 10:25 PM
Oct 2022

hate speech and actions. It is horrifying to realize that's where we are as a nation.

TomWilm

(1,832 posts)
26. That was even too much for his handlers in the Kremlin...
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 08:39 AM
Oct 2022

Last edited Mon Oct 24, 2022, 01:07 PM - Edit history (1)

- Russian TV presenter says sorry but faces probe for call to drown Ukrainian children.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-tv-presenter-says-sorry-faces-probe-call-drown-ukrainian-children-2022-10-24/

- RT sacks propagandist TV host for suggesting Ukrainian children should be drowned in river.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/24/7373178/

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
27. United Nations should come to agreement on getting rid of Putin and his entourage... like yesterday.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 04:36 PM
Oct 2022

Russian state-funded media director calls for Ukrainian children to be burned or drowned
Supporters of Russia have suggested genocide, and have specifically mentioned children because they hope to end the future of the Ukraine people.

This evil should be allowed to survive. Reporters should get in the faces of every Republican supporting Russia and demand they comment on these atrocities. And for those who defended RT.

Eugene

(61,899 posts)
29. Krasovsky: Russia bans 'burn Ukrainian kids' TV presenter
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 09:57 PM
Oct 2022
Krasovsky: Russia bans 'burn Ukrainian kids' TV presenter (BBC)

Russian state broadcaster RT has suspended and condemned one of its top presenters, Anton Krasovsky, after he called for the burning and drowning of Ukrainian children.

His remarks on TV provoked uproar on social media and he has now apologised.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63378613

intrepidity

(7,296 posts)
30. Question about this video
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 12:22 PM
Oct 2022

What is the meaning/intent when, right before advocating for drowning children, it's pointed out that the children were speaking Russian? Was the translation flawed, or did I misunderstand something? It was the other guy who was making that point. What was he saying?

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