Petraeus resigns after affair **with biographer** turned up in FBI probe, Fox News confirms
Source: Fox News
CIA Director David Petraeus resigned Friday after admitting to an extramarital affair -- an affair with his biographer that was revealed over the course of an FBI investigation, Fox News has learned.
The FBI had been investigating an unrelated and much broader case before stumbling on the affair. Fox News has learned that during the course of this investigation, the name of journalist and Petraeus biographer Paula Broadwell came up. The FBI followed that lead and in doing so, uncovered his affair with her. The FBI for some time was concerned that perhaps Petraeus was some sort of victim, but there has been no evidence discovered to back up such concerns.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/09/petraeus-resigns-as-cia-director/
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)underpants
(182,884 posts)That is the second line of the joke
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)<chortle>
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)underpants
(182,884 posts)rocktivity
(44,577 posts)So he really DID betray us.
rocktivity
yardwork
(61,712 posts)OMG.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)is.
*SNAP!*
Score one for Edna Anita Paxton. RIP, my darling.
RoxyNexus
(39 posts)"Touched" by Jerry Sandusky, "All In" by Paula Broadwell.
SCALA13
(69 posts)But for real I wonder if this will ruin Patreus presidential ambitions, in conflict with "family value" republicans?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)"Is it IN, yet?"
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jehop61
(1,735 posts)Is that the same as video-grapher?
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Personally I am already sick of hearing pundits say he did the honorable thing and confess. The honorable thing would have been to keep it in his pants. duh!!!!
I don't believe people should have to lose their career if they cheat on a spouse. However if you know you have a job that you could lose if you cheat. You deserve to lose it.
jonthebru
(1,034 posts)They never consider the unintended consequences.
I feel that we have a perverted society. A situation like this should not affect anyone outside of the immediate families.
He and she had a lapse of values and they will suffer for the short moments they appreciated one another...
marlakay
(11,498 posts)for possible 2016 run .screwed that up and who knows maybe why Cantor turned him in so many lingering questions here .
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)but I didn't post my hunch in case it wasn't her. I saw her on the Daily Show and remembered how much she admired Petraeus.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)She's pretty and "went running" with him. I thought, "yeah, and what else?"
Enrique
(27,461 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)One of them said, "...so give this book a pass, not like the general made."
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I shouldn't but someone else will...
"the Education of".
Oh boy. Late night TV is gonna have fun with that.
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)but the fact that it might have caused him to get a case of loose lips. Presumably the FBI fully investigated Ms. Broadwell to ensure that she did not pose any threat to national security but the CIA director shouldn't be putting them in that position in the first place.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)I don't think that counterintelligence types particularly care about the legality or morality of a subject's behavior, it is whether or not they are doing something that can be used against them. Who knows what this guy would do (or did) to protect his secret; he was in a position to give it all away, and he did not disclose, so he's off the island.
As far as limited hangouts go, this one is certainly weak, but it is one made to stick. The General was acting secretively, the reports made sure to mention that he tripped the sniffers for communicating secretively, and therefore from the limited information we've been given, it is plain to see that whether or not he was exploited, the Director of the CIA certainly put himself in a position where he could be exploited. So his reasons for leaving are (probably quite deliberately) easily explained.
However, since I don't work for anyone and I can freely guess my ignorant ass off, I'll say this: You know who has it coming more than most in the wake of this election? Benjamin Netanyahu.
Maybe, just maybe, the President just stepped on Benjiy's best bug.
(Edit: In the interests of humor, I direct your attention to another post by me below, in which I suggest that the General is the Bush's best boy. They could both be true, they could neither be true; the point is that I don't know and neither will anyone else for a long time.)
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)He's 60.....she's got to be at best 20 years younger. And she's married too.
Daddy issues anyone?
Actionman
(115 posts)As in gold digger, how often does she get to travel in that kind of private comfort with people waiting her every order... She likes how he was living.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)It's power. Power is one of the greatest aphrodisiacs. Powerful men -- as well as rich and powerful men -- have no trouble attracting the ladies. Greenspan, Kissinger, Onasis, etc.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)She seemed to be emotional and trying not to cry when she read the letter when the news broke today.
octothorpe
(962 posts)He also seems to be in pretty good shape for an old dude.
Response to nichomachus (Reply #58)
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LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)on both sides.
Doc Holliday
(719 posts)But there are lots of things in play...in my experience, at least.
I do wish that my fellow Americans could disabuse themselves of the notion that one of our strongest human instincts is somehow inherently sinful.
There's a joke down here: "In Lubbock, you learn two things-- 1) Sex is wrong, and 2) You should only do it with someone you're married to."
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)If we didn't keep pushing the monogamy standard as the only acceptable normal, problems like this wouldn't happen.
janx
(24,128 posts)SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)Sometimes we marry people who are opposite of us in nature and then are attracted to someone who is very much like us. They have many similarities and seem to be type A people.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/11/09/3655509/petraeus-biographer-broadwell.html
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)If Edwards, as Presidential candidate, is any indication of potential outcomes.
Actionman
(115 posts)air travel accommodations? Wood detail, leather captains chairs all around, I wonder if the bagheads would complain about the cost of travel and amenities on that plane for Petraeus like they complained about the President on Air Force One.
underpants
(182,884 posts)They don't slum around bus depots with a duffle bag
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)The biographer for resigning CIA Director David Petraeus is under FBI investigation for improperly trying to access his email and possibly gaining access to classified information, law enforcement officials told NBC News on Friday.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15056607-petraeus-biographer-paula-broadwell-under-fbi-investigation-over-access-to-his-email-law-enforcement-officials-say
glinda
(14,807 posts)If she did get any info I would think she could be in serious trouble. He also.....
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)this goes much further than a simple sex story.... I think he let more than his pants down
olddad56
(5,732 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)There has to be more too it.
If the woman had been interviewing him intimately ... very intimately ... it's possible that he revealed some classified information to her.
The revelation may have had consequences too.
Just speculation but she could have been interviewing important people for future books and inadvertently asked a question that revealed classified info to someone who shouldn't have it.
Could his blabbing have played a part in Bengazi?
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Why blame her if he was the Blabber wanting to get his fame & more fortune for him out there with that book that she was writing about him?
IndyJones
(1,068 posts)Just read an article on Yahoo that raised the question about that timing trumping the affair excuse. I guess we'll see as more information comes out.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Since Petraeus was a general, I believe his would be a case in which they would consider a violation. I don't know if there would be legal repercussions for him because I don't know the timeline of the affair, and because he is no longer in the military. But it is probably a big enough deal for him to want to leave the public spotlight.
Here is an article on it.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/adultery.htm
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Did the affair start while he was still on active duty? If so, then in theory he could be pulled back on AD and disciplined. However, I'll win the Miss America contest before that happens.
If they started messing up the sheets after he retired, the UCMJ doesn't apply.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)He is (was) Director of the CIA, caught in an illicit affair. It's a very big deal.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)I assume the reason someone would quit this kind of important position is if they committed a crime or weren't able to continue to be effective.
It seems to me it's a personal indiscretion and could mess up his home life but I don't see how that relates to his official position.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)For me or for you, it would be a personal indiscretion. We might do anything to keep from being found out, but we don't hold national security within our hands. Do you get the difference?
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)So whether or not the affair itself was enough to make him quit, this particular case is growing to be a huge scandal possibly about top secret information being revealed to the public by his mistress.
She gave a speech to some students about the Libyan embassy attack that was on youtube and said the embassy was holding Libyan prisoners and the attack was to free them. She said Petaes knew this. The youtube video was taken down and the CIA denies it completely.
The FBI also raided her house and left with several boxes of material.
This is not about an indiscretion. This is about treason.
Patiod
(11,816 posts)Seriously - she just went on a rant that it all had to do with Benghazi, and it' "payback".
I had no interest in further Fox-induced rants, so I tuned her out and said what I always say when I think someone is talking nonsense, which is "there you go".
After about the third "there you go", she said, "I guess you don't agree" and I said "I'm just glad to hear your power is back on and everything is okay."
I do not want to talk politics with someone whose dad tried to explain to me that Obama's was born in Kenya AND his "real" father was a Black Panther - both.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)underpants
(182,884 posts)I had been wondering who his mistress was and , oddly, Fox News actually completed (and didn't subtract from) a story
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)railsback
(1,881 posts)Pillow talk and such. She also seems to have had access to privy information, which is a breach. There could be some serious consequences to both.
But, damn, look at her! Poor Patraeus, getting on in years, suddenly has this woman rubbing his inner thigh... Pecker before country. He should go to jail.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)In the end...she goes down with him...in more ways than one in this situation...
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)"go down with him!"
rocktivity
octothorpe
(962 posts)Unless there is concrete proof he said something to her that warrants jail time. No qualms with having someone resign because there may be a risk, but I'm not too big on the idea of sending someone to jail just 'cause they may have said something they shouldn't have.
railsback
(1,881 posts)Broadwell, now in a bit of a pickle, could level some serious accusations as to what she was privy to. This goes beyond a simple morality tale of banging outside of your marriage.
RoxyNexus
(39 posts)while the sex and secrets scandal is being investigated.
You know, like Bradley Manning is being treated under similar circumstances.
What?
KoKo
(84,711 posts)So..Manning get's the dungeon treatment. He's lucky they didn't Water Board him...but, what they did was egregious enough.
Whovian
(2,866 posts)to write a biography. It was called sexist.
some people are very thin skinned on this sight. It's all in how you word things here.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:59 PM - Edit history (1)
is only human. She is quite nice looking. No one can judge him until they get out their glass house. We have all been, at one time or another, indiscreet. He is still a 4 star general in the army and I respect the work it took to get there. I hope it doesn't destroy his family.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)There is an allegation that their relationship gave her access to classified information.
I don't care about his sexual "morality", but I most certainly will judge him based on whether he abused his office and endangered the country.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)uber patriot, I don't think he would be that stupid, but I'm sure with all the moral outrage on the way, all will be known. Judge all you want to, doesn't make you right.
janx
(24,128 posts)groundloop
(11,523 posts)And not all of us have been indiscreet at one time or another. But beyond that, BlueStreak is exactly right - this guy was the head of the CIA and damned well should have known better than to let a 'biographer' get anywhere near his email etc. It's not our place to judge the actions of consenting adults, that's between themselves and their spouses, but it becomes a totally different matter when the security of our country comes into play. What a dumbass.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)all of you uber patriots are so right. He couldn't have had a moment of weakness that escalated into an affair. Oh I'm sorry I mentioned weakness in the presence of uber males who NEVER have been weak in any situation. If we have another war we need supermen like you at the front line, although I would want the general as leader. : Please don't bore with false outrage over a man who was indiscreet.
octothorpe
(962 posts)It's similar to how we expect out police officers to show restraint even if someone is trying to provoke them.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)groundloop
(11,523 posts)Granted, according to the story that's not how it started. But still, WOW!!!
And what a fucking dumbass. (in more than one way)
underpants
(182,884 posts)I can't imagine that the FBI guys aren't loving taking down the head of the CIA
Sgent
(5,857 posts)of counter-intelligence and security investigations.
Gin
(7,212 posts)Been under the radar. IMO
KoKo
(84,711 posts)with enough Money and/or Temptation...some of the weak spirited...think they are too Powerful to be Found Out.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,155 posts)I wish them every happiness now that he's got so much free time.
janx
(24,128 posts)They look like an old man and his daughter.
Beacool
(30,253 posts)If every man who cheated had to resign from his job there wouldn't be too many men fully employed.
janx
(24,128 posts)He was head of the CIA. If the FBI is involved, there's more than a concern about an everyday affair, no?
Beacool
(30,253 posts)They were investigating the woman with whom he had the affair.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Bear in mind that *both* of the participants in this affair are married to other people, not just the man.
For every straight man that "cheats" there is a straight woman involved also, the sexes are not that far apart in terms of their lack of marital fidelity.
Beacool
(30,253 posts)But men tend to cheat far more often than women. You would have to think really hard for a woman in an equally prominent position as Petraeus who would risk it all for an affair. Can you imagine an Angela Merkel, Hillary or Pelosi in that predicament? I doubt it. On the other hand, the list of public men who have had their careers destroyed, or almost destroyed, by an affair is very long.
XtopherXtopher
(70 posts)There is absolutely no evidence that men cheat more than women, because no evidence is possible. Surveys asking people, "do you cheat?" cannot possibly expect honesty from responders, and reports about divorces, etc are about what happens in courts, not bedrooms. This is the one circumstance where the truth may never be known because everyone has a motive to keep the truth hidden.
As for women in power, I could easily say that women are only attracted to men with more power and prestige than themselves, which makes their romantic potential go down as their status goes up: the very opposite of what happens to men.
But I'm not saying that. Because it would be rude. Like repeating the unsubstantiated meme that "men cheat more."
Beacool
(30,253 posts)XtopherXtopher
(70 posts)i know how it looks coming from a stranger, and no one is obliged to believe me, but i've been the victim enough times to have my own thoughts about the issue.
DavidDvorkin
(19,486 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)puts on honestly discussing such issues.
I can't find it now but some study asked heterosexual men and women how many sexual partners they'd had and got wildly different answers depending on if it was asked in person, or anonymously over the internet.
Generally speaking the common-knowledge assumption that women will lie and say they have fewer while men lie and say the opposite held up if there was any chance of being personally judged.
/and if you think about it the average numbers of sexual partners for men and women have to be the same among heterosexual couples. Mathematically it's impossible for straight men to sleep around more than straight women. The distribution may be different, but the mean can't be.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)so it's a given that more men will be caught doing this than women.
Iggy
(1,418 posts)errr....
yet something doesn't quite smell right about this... the General is out-- just days prior to his testimony regarding the Benghazi fiasco...how convenient
sofa king
(10,857 posts)That's going to make the Bushes very, very upset.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)That they saw or witnessed the "Other" Woman trying to access Petraeus's email on a laptop and got an investigation going...
Just my take...
jonthebru
(1,034 posts)jimbo92107
(18 posts)I heard Paula Broadwell wrote a book on general David Petraeus.
The punchline is the setup.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)I love weed
(50 posts)Then put her pic next to Paula's.
All is clear.
tanyev
(42,620 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Looked to be a nice family she had - wonder what was up with the General worship...
No doubt the Righties will forgive and forget, and vote accordingly should he ever enter any race of significance. They don't care HOW they win... just that they win. Greed in all things.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)mainer
(12,029 posts)And I've heard she's also a veteran. As one package, she would be pretty hard to resist. I understand why he would fall.
Bosso 63
(992 posts)I'm not saying it was right, but the harsh truth is that most men will never have that much "temptation" to deal with. The guy was spending a lot of time with a younger woman, who is intelligent, attractive, and hanging on his every word. I think a lot of men would fail that "test".
As a result, I'm reluctant to judge him any more harshly than I judged Bill Clinton over Monica. In both cases, they hurt people around them, jeopardized their reputations, and clearly they should have known better.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)an embedded reporter?
heaven05
(18,124 posts)i like that.
kjackson227
(2,166 posts)She wasn't only his wife, but she was a great supporter of our troops.
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5036438310946345&pid=15.1
Ter
(4,281 posts)Th head of the CIA does not get caught in an affair when thy can cover up murder and assassinations.
zebrastripe
(26 posts)Is it necessary for Paula Broadwell, author, to dress as a sex goddess, when doing an interview about the CIA Director?
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)person of interest? The affair, if found to be the source of her acquiring
classified intelligence and using it in someway, will become for Petraeus
a much more complicated situation.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)aletier_v
(1,773 posts)Troops feel the need to make their commanders bigger than they are.
Tutonic
(2,522 posts)Don't stare into those eyes...run.
Gin
(7,212 posts)Jumping John
(930 posts)something about West Point and the military?
darkangel218
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XtopherXtopher
(70 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)How ironic
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)triggered the investigation and lead to her She sounds like a piece of work.A married woman with a boyfriend on the side with two boys wonder how they will look at there mom when they grow up. Wonder who the other woman was that she threatened.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)There is no excuse for cheating, period.
Locut0s
(6,154 posts)As others above have already pointed out she is also a military woman, she's VERY attractive and the 2 of them were working closely. Being a biography he would have had to have shared personal details with her. Factor in the age difference (older man with attractive younger woman) and what may have been a stale marriage on his end and maybe on her's too (I'm just speculating here) and you have a perfect storm. Given these circumstances I think MOST men would find it very very tempting if such a women made advances towards them. I'm not excusing what he did but I can certainly understand it. I also understand his reason for resigning in this case too though, an affair leaves you open to blackmail. Seducing men in power to get information from them has got to be one of the oldest espionage tactics in the books.
womanofthehills
(8,774 posts)I saw this posted on another site - How many women had unsurpassed access to Petraeus??
http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/cgsc/events/robinson.asp linda robinson

Linda Robinson, author and national security issues expert, shared insights from her newest book, "Tell Me How This Ends," which explores the world of Gen. David Petraeus as he searches for a successful resolution to the Iraq War. Robinson, who has over two decades of experience covering wars and insurgencies, gained unsurpassed access to Petraeus, to classified briefings, and to his intimates while writing the book. A book signing in the AAFES bookstore immediately followed the event.
View Linda Robinson's OpEd piece in the New York Times,
"The Little Battles We Must Win."
Locut0s
(6,154 posts)Would women make potentially better leaders in highly sensitive rolls such as this? I guess it's sexist to think that women are any less immune to seduction than men but I can't help but feel that it's true to some degree.
Edit: I guess since it takes 2 to tango, as they say, it's about the same.
mainer
(12,029 posts)I just watched her interview on jon stewart where she showed up in a sexy cocktail dress and my first impression was: this gal is big trouble. Warning bells should have gone off in petraeus's head.
Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)He's the typical "cookie cutter" general that the Army ranks are over-stocked with today. I do not include LTG Mike Flynn in that equation. I'm an old, ex-Soldier now, but I would follow that man to hell and back any time.
pam4water
(2,916 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)boomerbust
(2,181 posts)I mean come on, who wouldn't want a piece of that. He is an American male after all.
Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)He's only human .....
DavidDvorkin
(19,486 posts)and betraying commitments.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)He slept with his biographer - so what?
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)It's still young and foolish. I'd bet it's going to grow up into a great big political/intelligence shitstorm.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)apparently is in deep financial trouble.
Sometimes people in financial trouble don't particularly care how they get the money to pay off their bills.
If you are in financial trouble, you can't get a security clearance.
Franker65
(299 posts)I feel bad for Petraeus' wife, but still for his age, he stayed in shape which is more than one can say for her. Despite the difficulties of her being alone while he was on deployment, the woman let herself go completely. I totally understand how he failed to resist the other woman's advances...
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)What a pathetic thing to say.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)There's no way she could have gone with anything else.
The jokes just write themselves (groan).