Consumer confidence fell in October as inflation takes a toll
Source: CNN Business
Consumer confidence fell in October as inflation takes a toll
By Alicia Wallace, CNN Business
Published 10:14 AM EDT, Tue October 25, 2022
Minneapolis (CNN Business) US consumer confidence fell in October to the lowest level since July as high borrowing costs and soaring inflation take their toll on household budgets.
The consumer confidence index slumped to 102.5 from a revised 107.8 in September, according to data released Tuesday by the Conference Board. Economists were expecting a reading of 106.5, per estimates from Refinitiv. A reading above 100 signals consumers have an optimistic attitude toward the economy. In February 2020, the consumer confidence index was 132.6.
Consumer spending, which drives the US economy, has remained strong since the start of the Covid-19 pandemic, with high levels of goods purchasing during lockdowns, followed by robust spending on travel and dining out once restrictions were lifted.
However, a global imbalance of supply and demand led to the current bout of decades-high inflation in the United States, which the Federal Reserve is trying to bring down through a series of jumbo-sized rate hikes. That has, in turn, pushed up borrowing costs, adding to higher overall expense for consumers, some of whom have begun to rein in their spending.
This story is developing and will be updated.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/25/economy/consumer-confidence-index-october/index.html
FredGarvin
(479 posts)The worst part of this whole mess is people's 401K and IRA retirement accounts.
Trillions erased and people will be forced to work well beyond what they financially planned for.
The S&P 500 is down 20% from its top last year - the real equities benchmark IMO.
Counting inflation...it's down another 10%.
Stagflation.
BumRushDaShow
(129,152 posts)There are a whole different set of circumstances going on here that make it different from the '70s - '80s.
Reposting this chart back over the summer - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16980296
Shows the daily level of the federal funds rate back to 1954. The fed funds rate is the interest rate at which depository institutions (banks and credit unions) lend reserve balances to other depository institutions overnight, on an uncollateralized basis. The Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meets eight times a year to determine the federal funds target rate. The current federal funds rate as of July 27, 2022 is 1.58%.
https://www.macrotrends.net/2015/fed-funds-rate-historical-chart
FredGarvin
(479 posts)There is stagnant growth coupled with very high inflation.
The economy isn't expanding yet we have decades high inflationary pressure.
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)(At least, not yet)
That's an essential part of the definition.
BumRushDaShow
(129,152 posts)are being done to "cool the economy" on purpose. That has nothing to do with the underlying situation that was caused by a pandemic shock which is not the same as what happened 45 years ago.
Leading up to this situation after the market crash of 2007, the Fed took the interest rates down to near 0% and kept it there until just before the pandemic hit (there were several increases in 2018 and 2019), and then they promptly dropped it back down again as the COVID shock hit. So you're talking almost a decade of artificially low rates to recover from a previous economic calamity and then they got hit with another.
In the late '70s/early '80s, the UE rate was well over 10% where now it is ~3.5%. And the value of the dollar is also stronger now (vs other global currencies) than in the late '70s.
IOW, they really don't know how to model this situation.
FredGarvin
(479 posts)Way too low for way too long.
Inflation will continue to cause pain as long as the Fed continues to prop up markets at the expense of the lower classes.
BumRushDaShow
(129,152 posts)They have a "target rate" they are aiming for, which they attempted to get to just before the pandemic, and the market handwringing is how fast or slow they try to get there while watching what it does to the other indicators.
You have a situation in some sectors where certain goods are now in surplus once the supply chain issues eased and the holders of that surplus have often hedged on cutting the (inflated) prices (greed).
For a change that is not being emphasized (which has also been twisted into a "negative" ) is that due the job situation and still-large need for certain jobs, the wages for those lower rung positions have actually gone up for a change, after decades of slow rises. So those wage increases are being factored in as (wage) "inflation" when they are something that should have started happening years ago with some kind of federal minimum wage hike.
The Mouth
(3,153 posts)it really hits the working class and retirees. Yuppies and the wealthy too, but no where nearly as badly as someone on a fixed income. I want to vomit when I hear anyone saying this is not an urgent, nearly existential crisis and if it isn't pretty much solved in a year or two we could kiss off our democracy forever. Inflation is what got us Reagan, inflation is what terminally damaged the Weimar Republic, inflation is a much bigger issue than unemployment or a declining market.
peppertree
(21,639 posts)A lady's on the kitchen phone with her friend.
"We had a great time in Paris," she gushes. "And what with how strong the dollar is right now, we picked up some incredible bargains!"
And in the background, you see her husband, in their backyard, walking from the Eiffel Tower.
But what goes up, must come down - and just as Mondale warned, a few months later the dollar began cratering.
By '88, Japanese, Brits, and Europeans were buying up Manhattan high-rises and near-bankrupt U.S. firms - many hollowed out by boardroom stock market and junk bond games.
It's a mad, mad world.
BumRushDaShow
(129,152 posts)and now I have started hearing all the gold hucksters back on the radio again!
peppertree
(21,639 posts)An elderly friend of mine always tells me that the '79/80 gold bubble (in which he made - and lost - a small fortune) is when he learned a valuable lesson:
That when it hits the cover of Time magazine, it's time to sell.
That's what happened with gold - which crashed after a heap of gold bars appeared on a 1980 Time cover.
With dot-coms, when a bunch of elated dot-com hucksters "graced" a 2000 Time cover.
And again with the housing market, when a drawing of a man hugging his house showed up on a 2005 Time cover.
I'm sure there are many other examples.
I tell you. From Dutch tulips on down, it seems that bubbles - and their frantic popping - appeal to something very dark, but very deep, in human nature.
Such is the world anyway.
BumRushDaShow
(129,152 posts)my mother had called me (I was in college at the time) and told me that earlier that day, she and my younger sisters were in line at some jeweler cashing in the old 14kt thin gold chains, sterling bracelets, and (hollow) candlestick holders. Meanwhile I had some college friends staring lovingly at the Goldschläger.
peppertree
(21,639 posts)Always a rollercoaster.
The Mouth
(3,153 posts)only rose colored glasses allowed.
SoBlueInFL
(191 posts)MAGA crowd wants full-blown Fascism.