Trump asks Supreme Court to block Congress getting his tax returns

[BumRushDaShow]

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Source: CNBC

Former President Donald Trump on Monday asked the Supreme Court to block a judge’s order that the IRS give years of his tax returns to the House Ways and Means Committee later this week. The request to delay the execution of the judicial order pending a planned appeal came days after Trump lost an attempt to reverse the order at a federal appeals court.

“This case raises important questions about the separation of powers that will affect every future President,” Trump’s lawyers said in their emergency application to Chief Justice John Roberts. The chief justice has authority over such petitions from cases arising from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

Trump’s lawyers asked the court to act by Wednesday to delay an appeals court ruling that cleared the way for the IRS to deliver the tax returns on Thursday. The delay would give Trump time to formally ask the high court to hear an appeal of the ruling. But the lawyers also said the Supreme Court could consider Monday’s filing itself a request to hear the case.

The filing accused the committee of trying to get Trump’s tax returns solely for the purpose of releasing them to the public, and not for a review of IRS audits of presidents, as the House panel has stated. Trump’s attorney William Consovoy and a spokeswoman for the Ways and Means Committee did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/trump-asks-supreme-court-to-block-congress-getting-his-tax-returns.html

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Trump asks Supreme Court to intervene in effort by Congress to get his tax returns

Former President Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Monday to intervene in a case in which the IRS was ordered to give years of his income tax returns to the House Ways and Means Committee. The request came after Trump lost an attempt to reverse that judicial order at a federal appeals court.

If the Supreme Court grants Trump’s application, it could thwart the Democratic-controlled committee from receiving the returns for several more years — at the very least. A Supreme Court case challenging the order could take months or longer to resolve. And if Republicans regain majority control in the House of Representatives in the upcoming midterm elections, they are expected to end the Ways and Means Committee’s three-year-long bid to get Trump’s tax returns.

That committee has sought Trump’s tax records and those of related business entities as part of an investigation of how the Internal Revenue Service audits presidential tax returns. The IRS, which is a division of the Treasury Department, is legally mandated to audit the annual tax returns of sitting presidents.

The committee sued to obtain Trump’s federal returns for the years from 2015 through 2020 after then-Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin refused to comply with the committee’s request. The Trump appointee Mnuchin said that the panel did not have a legitimate legislative purpose.

[iluvtennis]

1. Just ridiculous - pushing everthing to the SC. House Ways and Means Committee has been

trying to get these tax returns since tfg was in the white house.

[DENVERPOPS]

34. Is anyone surprised that everything

they are doing gets shoved up by the Republicans to "THEIR" supreme court????????
what good is a tyranny if you don't use it......

[Kid Berwyn]

2. Guy really knows how to delay.

Even for a billionaire, those IRS audits must be a bear.

[calimary]

29. That's been one of his main strategies.

Has been for years. Delay. Delay, delay, delay.

It allows him to run out the clock on any adversary trying to get him in court. He can afford to string it out as long as possible, filing for delay after delay after delay. He knows the other side will run out of money long before he does.

Savvy strategic thinkers on our side need to find all the ways around this strategy. And immediately if not sooner!

[ProudMNDemocrat]

3. Crimes hidden in those returns?

Why else the fight to keep them SECRET?

Legislative purpose? ALL Foreign income has to be reported! Did not Eric say back in 2016 that much of the income the Trump Organization came from Russia?

Asking for a friend.

[UpInArms]

6. GMTA

[FBaggins]

10. Legislative purpose is because Congress isn't a law-enforcement body

They can't do criminal investigations (other than impeachment)

"We think there might be a crime here" = "refer to DOJ"

"We're thinking of legislating in this area" = "hearings can be held"

The real question is who needs to be satisfied that it's #2 vs. #1? And is that subject to judicial review?

[NullTuples]

30. I would not be surprised if the records of his returns end up being "lost in a database upgrade"

Depending on who is also implicated in said crimes.

[former9thward]

46. The IRS has had his returns since the 1960s.

The New York IRS has had his returns since the 1960s. They are not secret to either of those organizations. If there are crimes why have they not found them? I have asked this before and I never get an answer.

[FBaggins]

4. I doubt that the delay would be "several more years"... but that isn't really the risk

The real calendar deadline is January and depends on next week's results.

If Republicans take back the House, then it's all over unless SCOTUS denies this request quickly.

[CousinIT]

5. He puts his nannies on the supreme court then goes whining to them to diaper his legal

ass everytime he doesn't want to do something. Little whinybitch.

[keithbvadu2]

7. His personal SC

[Progressive dog]

8. Of course he did

After all, he appointed three of those justices and he thinks they should do whatever he wants.

[ZonkerHarris]

9. Let's see how this illegitimate court rules on this. They will prove their corruption, again

[emulatorloo]

11. I doubt it. See "Supreme Court rejects former President Donald Trump's request to intervene in Mar-

Supreme Court rejects former President Donald Trump’s request to intervene in Mar-a-Lago documents fight

That was early this month. October 13th. They appear to have zero interest in protecting Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/13/politics/supreme-court-trump-mar-a-lago/index.html

[ZonkerHarris]

13. while covering for Lindsey Graham in another case

[emulatorloo]

15. That was Clarence Thomas all by himself. Not the entire court.

[Wibly]

12. Vexatious Litigant

At what point does the court declare Trump a vexatious litigant and stop hearing his briefs all together?
Clearly he only turns to to the court for delays and obfuscation. He has yet to present any reasonable or fact based argument.
Time to call his bluffery!

[IcyPeas]

25. had to look that up. sounds right.

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. Reminder: Trump has lost every case before this SCOTUS where he was a named party. Nt

[aggiesal]

16. Predicted by everyone, including myself ...

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2986619

[Warpy]

17. You mean the same returns he promised to release sevem uears agp

and has stonewalled ever since because nobody gonna tell HIM what to do, no suh?

Allegiance to His Fatness should only go so far, I don't expect them to give him what he wants.

[TomCADem]

18. The RW Majority Will Grant Temporary Relief for Some Reason

… to allow a House Republican majority to rescind the subpoena. It is intellectually dishonest, but that is how right wingers roll.

[ancianita]

36. Sounds like some kinda quasi-legal scofflaw form of obstruction.

[multigraincracker]

19. If someone could fake his tax returns

to make him really look bad, then he could only disprove it by releasing the real ones. Just saying.

[Justice matters.]

22. Agreed, but this case is not about "releasing them to the public" (unfortunately)

It's only to see if there were "subjects of litigation in Courts" (refer to the DoJ) and to find correct remedies to write in new legislation to submit to the House.

Of course, what hair furhair is afraid of are possible "leaks" he would immediately label as "fake news" like forever.

[twodogsbarking]

20. Will they be more inclined to side with Trump for fear someone will show

up at their house and kill them?

[bucolic_frolic]

21. Something powerful wants to conceal the contents

Must be more than just inflated bank assets or underreported income

[Justice matters.]

24. hair furhair would immediately label leaks as being "fake news" by Dems to "get him"

What hair furhair is really scared of is the possible criminal referals to the DoJ (like Al Capone was).

[CuzCaroline]

23. Shadow Docket being exploited by GOPers & Trump

Shadow Docket is for emergency orders: temporarily freezing lower court orders while the appeals process process plays out. It is being increasingly used by GOPers and the trend is to reward GOPers and punish Democrats.
Used by trump in MarALago documents case, by Wisconsin voters to stop Biden's Student Loan Forgiveness Program, Senator Lindsey Graham, Arizona's Kelli Ward.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-trying-exploit-supreme-court-docket-trend-n1300236

[malthaussen]

26. Oh, Donald, the USSC is not your friend.

I consider it poetic justice, in fact. Maybe DJT thought the clowns he pushed for the Court would show gratitude, but instead he's been consistently getting a full helping of the gratitude he shows to others. Dude, they're on the Court for life, you can't do a thing to them or for them now. The fool doesn't seem to realize that the Court has consistently ruled against his every fantasy.

-- Mal

[paparush]

27. I don't get why T**** is delaying?

He can just claim it's all fake. It's all nasty democrats creating fake documents in yet another massive witch hunt to embarrass him and his family.

It's all laughably ridiculous, you'd have to be a true Low IQanut to believe it, but he's apparently convinced millions of people that he didn't get his ass kicked in the 2020 election.

[GreenWave]

28. Pull a Trump on him.

We requested them more than you did. Therefore they are ours. Such beautiful incriminating treasonous tax returns are all ours forever!

[Skittles]

31. just make it a rule a presidential candiate HAS TO RELEASE THEIR TAXES

and be DONE WITH THIS SHIT

[Pepsidog]

39. Absolutely.

[BumRushDaShow]

42. The House passed a bill in 2019 to do just that

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/433221-house-passes-bill-to-require-presidents-to-disclose-their-tax-returns/

but since Turtle was in charge of the Senate at the time, it hit the circular file there.

It was reintroduced the day before the inauguration in 2021 but hasn't moved much given all that was going on at the time (so it would need to be reintroduced again in the next Congressional session in 2023).

[ificandream]

33. So what's so scary to you about your tax returns being released, Trumpo?

[Martin68]

35. That's the court he thinks is HIS court.

[James48]

37. The U.S. Supreme Court is corrupt.

Every Justice must be replaced.

Pass a law that gives them only a single, six-year term, and then the next President has replace them.

[onenote]

41. You may want to borrow a copy of the Constitution

It seems you may have lost yours.

[Pepsidog]

38. I thought they were finally turned over, guess I was wrong.

[BumRushDaShow]

40. The full Appeals Court said to do it

but there was that one appeal option left and that was to the SCOTUS.

There was a related agreement that the House Oversight Committee had with the accounting firm (Mazars) to turn over what they had regarding some other financial docs - https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/chairwoman-maloney-s-statement-on-oversight-committee-securing-agreement-to

[Pepsidog]

43. Thanks for the update and link.

[BumRushDaShow]

45. You're welcome

Carolyn Maloney had taken over that Committee from Elijah Cummings after he passed, but when NY redistricted the Congressional seats, they placed her and Jerry Nadler in the same District (NY-12) and she lost to him in the primary. So she will not be returning after 30 years.

[Blue Owl]

44. Sounds like the fat man's got something to hide...

[tavernier]

47. All Hail The King

of a bird turd.