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BumRushDaShow

(129,087 posts)
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 08:51 PM Nov 2022

Trump aide Kash Patel ordered to testify to grand jury investigating Mar-a-Lago documents

Source: CNN Politics

CNN -- A federal judge on Tuesday ordered Donald Trump adviser Kash Patel to testify before a grand jury investigating the handling of federal records at Mar-a-Lago, according to two people familiar with the investigation.

Judge Beryl Howell of the DC District Court has granted Patel immunity from prosecution on any information he provides to the investigation, the people said. Patel's grand jury appearance hasn't yet been scheduled.

The court's decision is under seal, coming after a confidential proceeding where the Justice Department subpoenaed Patel to the grand jury in October. At that time, he declined to answer questions by asserting his Fifth Amendment protection from self-incrimination.

An attorney for Patel did not respond to CNN's request for comment. Patel has not been charged with any crime. The Wall Street Journal first reported on the development.





Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/politics/kash-patel-testify-mar-a-lago-documents-grand-jury/index.html



Saw this being speculated about and apparently it has happened.

Full headline: Trump aide Kash Patel ordered to testify to grand jury investigating Mar-a-Lago documents, sources say
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Trump aide Kash Patel ordered to testify to grand jury investigating Mar-a-Lago documents (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 OP
immunity?? Just to testify under oath? He's one of the coup plotters FCS. Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #1
I read that with immunity he cannot take the 5th. sheshe2 Nov 2022 #7
well, I guess that's something. We'll be on to the next outrage and/or tragedy soon. I am Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #11
It's one of the ways to convince a criminal-case jury hair furhair has no "declassification" defense Justice matters. Nov 2022 #12
I keep hoping DOJ is getting close, but it's like watching paint dry... Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Nov 2022 #2
Sleaze bag TomDaisy Nov 2022 #3
This time he can't take the fifth. sop Nov 2022 #4
I can't remember the details but there are different kinds of immunity TomDaisy Nov 2022 #5
They're at the top of pyramid now Mike Niendorff Nov 2022 #6
This is a big deal. Lasher Nov 2022 #8
"...granted immunity?" So... Grins Nov 2022 #9
Pray tell, Patel... Blue Owl Nov 2022 #10
LIKE IT republianmushroom Nov 2022 #14

sheshe2

(83,789 posts)
7. I read that with immunity he cannot take the 5th.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 09:43 PM
Nov 2022

He will have to answer the questions.

MSNBC just said they want him to testify to the fact that the documents were not declassified.

Evolve Dammit

(16,741 posts)
11. well, I guess that's something. We'll be on to the next outrage and/or tragedy soon. I am
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:56 AM
Nov 2022

so tired of this never-ending shit-show that is wearing us out and tearing us down.

Justice matters.

(6,933 posts)
12. It's one of the ways to convince a criminal-case jury hair furhair has no "declassification" defense
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:06 AM
Nov 2022

And if patel lies under Oath to the Grand Jury, he'll get charged of perjury.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

TomDaisy

(1,874 posts)
5. I can't remember the details but there are different kinds of immunity
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 09:09 PM
Nov 2022

as explained by Jill Wine-Banks.

One kind is for immunity for what you say in the proceedings, but no immunity if DOJ comes up with stuff against you by other means. I think that is "use immunity"??

Probably she has tweeted about it more than once.

Mike Niendorff

(3,462 posts)
6. They're at the top of pyramid now
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 09:42 PM
Nov 2022

Nobody higher up the chain except Trump.

And they just formally immunized Patel to force him to testify, which means the target MUST be further up the chain -- which 100% means Trump.

Game over, indictments are on the way. Buckle up.


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