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pstokely

(10,528 posts)
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:00 PM Nov 2022

White suburban women have 'significantly shifted' support from Dems to GOP, poll finds

Source: The Week

White suburban women have "significantly shifted" their support from Democrats to the GOP in the remaining days of the 2022 midterm elections thanks to "rising concerns over the economy and inflation," The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday, according to its latest poll.

The Journal's findings indicate that white suburban women, a key voting bloc that helped Democrats take the House in 2018, "now favor Republicans for Congress by 15 percentage points, moving 27 percentage points away from Democrats since the Journal's August poll." Further, the Journal notes, the data suggests voters are less fired up about abortion rights than they were back in June, when the Supreme Court first overturned Roe v. Wade (1973).


In regards to the economy, white suburban women don't appear too optimistic: per the poll, 54 percent believe the U.S. is already in a recession, while 74 percent believe the economy is headed in the wrong direction, the Journal reports. Such perceptions are also "substantially" worse than those of the Journal's most recent prior survey.



Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/white-suburban-women-significantly-shifted-204754117.html

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White suburban women have 'significantly shifted' support from Dems to GOP, poll finds (Original Post) pstokely Nov 2022 OP
Consider the source Wild blueberry Nov 2022 #1
Precisely DENVERPOPS Nov 2022 #9
heard it during the the newsbreak on SXM127 pstokely Nov 2022 #31
Is David Wasserman a better source? He told me the same today. brooklynite Nov 2022 #21
One of the things I've always liked about Wasserman... OilemFirchen Nov 2022 #25
My thought too Rebl2 Nov 2022 #23
Exactly! nt pazzyanne Nov 2022 #26
yup. bluboid Nov 2022 #27
The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday, according to its latest poll. NullTuples Nov 2022 #37
Maybe because you can go to their site Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #64
I don't think you understand how far my mistrust of them goes. And yes, they've earned it. NullTuples Nov 2022 #69
All print media in the country have to be treated as "corporate", because they are. Texin Nov 2022 #48
Rupert Murdoch is as rotten as rotten gets. Kid Berwyn Nov 2022 #49
Thanks to all the doom and gloom talk on MSM. groundloop Nov 2022 #2
A Wall Street Urinal poll... Ocelot II Nov 2022 #3
+1 sheshe2 Nov 2022 #7
This group seems the ones most likely to vote based on JI7 Nov 2022 #4
This. Inflation is complex in its causes but it's MontanaFarmer Nov 2022 #16
What? Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #54
Another of multiple Republican sources flooding the polling data to skew the averages. lees1975 Nov 2022 #5
WSJ is a Murdoch paper SouthBayDem Nov 2022 #29
Wall Street Journal yankee87 Nov 2022 #6
Who owns the Wall Street Journal? texasfiddler Nov 2022 #8
The same white foreigner who owns Fox news and most other reich-winged media in our country.... LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #11
BS poll. Ignore onetexan Nov 2022 #10
A Murdoch poll ..... LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #12
exactly onetexan Nov 2022 #44
Most suburban white women have enough money and security that they don't worry about the cost of Samrob Nov 2022 #13
My thoughts exactly Unwind Your Mind Nov 2022 #57
Sounds like BS to me. The Regressives are pushing hard with the misinformation in every direction. Martin68 Nov 2022 #14
REALLY THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Nov 2022 #17
Something stinky here Wibly Nov 2022 #18
Sample of Suburban Women was approx. 375 individuals Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #19
Internals of course out of whack ...... LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #20
And they noted that on some questions it was 8% margin of error Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #53
Lmaooooo vercetti2021 Nov 2022 #22
😂😂😂😂😂😂 LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #24
BS. whathehell Nov 2022 #28
We need persuasive, tight economic messaging that our guys repeat continuously. JudyM Nov 2022 #30
My guess is it's not the economy that is shifting suburban women,, but crime Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #32
Yes, it's a small sample JudyM Nov 2022 #34
And why do they think Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #56
They're the ones blowing the horn the loudest. Ursus Rex Nov 2022 #61
I can't think of anything, anything worse than living under Backseat Driver Nov 2022 #33
Amen, sister Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #55
IGNORE THE POLLS BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #35
I don't believe it n/t Lulu KC Nov 2022 #36
I'll believe it BlueMTexpat Nov 2022 #38
I wish they would ask these women what they think the GOP will do to lower inflation. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #39
Will they wake up when they become handmaidens? SouthernDem4ever Nov 2022 #40
Look at the picture they used MacKasey Nov 2022 #41
So abortion was only important to suburban women for a few months? oldsoftie Nov 2022 #42
I don't buy this for one second .... Majority Of Americans Support Abortion, Poll Finds -- Botany Nov 2022 #43
A majority of Americans have always supported abortion Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #65
Suburban moms are more diverse than they used to be IronLionZion Nov 2022 #45
This suburban white woman does not answer polls anymore Maeve Nov 2022 #46
And that's why you're anecdote Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #67
No, I ignore the polls to a great extent Maeve Nov 2022 #68
Seriously, as if Republicans have ever done anything for the economy but drive us into recessions. Lonestarblue Nov 2022 #47
FYI, not everyone in the 'burbs is white! TexasBushwhacker Nov 2022 #50
Just the fact that women Old Crank Nov 2022 #51
Rupert Murdoch owns WSJ. Enough said Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #52
I don't believe this for a minute. They don't want Ted Cruz going to their gyn appointments Vinca Nov 2022 #58
THIS IS COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLSHIT. Gaslighting. GOP wants to own women and we say okay. onecaliberal Nov 2022 #59
bs llashram Nov 2022 #60
Of course a WSJ poll would report that. brush Nov 2022 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Nov 2022 #63
Bullshit LW1977 Nov 2022 #66

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
9. Precisely
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:15 PM
Nov 2022

Last edited Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:49 PM - Edit history (1)

WSJ......can't get more Republican/Corporate news phonies

AND, at least this is what Republican Wives are telling their husbands........

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
37. The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday, according to its latest poll.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:00 AM
Nov 2022

Gee, why don't I trust that the WSJ even produced a poll?

Texin

(2,596 posts)
48. All print media in the country have to be treated as "corporate", because they are.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:32 AM
Nov 2022

(Well, there is Mother Jones), of course. But otherwise, I view most print media to be heavily skewed to the right. And the television news are owned by some of the largest corporations that contribute to the agenda of the defense/industrial complex in the country.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
2. Thanks to all the doom and gloom talk on MSM.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:08 PM
Nov 2022

For crying out loud, economists were telling us a LONG time ago that there would be strong inflation and possibly a worldwide recession as we worked our way out of the pandemic (which was exacerbated by 45*'s incompetence and denial). Now that this is happening people shouldn't be surprised by it, not to mention the fact that the Biden administration has the US in better shape than the rest of the world.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
4. This group seems the ones most likely to vote based on
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:09 PM
Nov 2022

" which way the wind blows". Easily influenced by the current media narrative.

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
16. This. Inflation is complex in its causes but it's
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:27 PM
Nov 2022

simple to understand and it's a 1-step sale for the GOP. If course they have no plan to deal with it but the party in power will be punished if people perceive a threat. I know people are accusing the GOP of "flooding the zone" but our side isn't releasing our partisan polls. Does anyone believe they're not polling? This has 2010 vibes, to me.

lees1975

(3,860 posts)
5. Another of multiple Republican sources flooding the polling data to skew the averages.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:12 PM
Nov 2022

I trust the Wall Street Journal about as much as I trust Donald J. Trump. Doesn't he have financial interest in the WSJ?

yankee87

(2,173 posts)
6. Wall Street Journal
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:12 PM
Nov 2022

This poll and article are done by the WSJ which is extremely Reich wing. The Qpublicans are flooding the airwaves with BS polls. They are going to lose bigly.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
13. Most suburban white women have enough money and security that they don't worry about the cost of
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:20 PM
Nov 2022

groceries or gasoline. But they surely care about their freedom of choice.

Response to pstokely (Original post)

Wibly

(613 posts)
18. Something stinky here
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:28 PM
Nov 2022

I don't believe this for a moment.
White women are quite capable of linking the economics of child rearing, and of all people, have been the greatest beneficiaries of Roe for the past decades. They have all grown up with coat hanger stories, even the wealthy ones. They know first hand, or at most from their own mothers, just how difficult it was to move ahead in the world before Roe became law. They also know how fortunate they have been to avoid the economic burden that was forced on their own mothers.
White women know full well that Roe and Equal Rights have been a boon to their well being and they are not going to risk having their daughters faced with the same misfortune their grandmothers experienced.
White women are angry about Trump. They are angry about Roe. They are angry about Men telling them what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. No way what is being preached here is accurate.
No way at all.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,622 posts)
19. Sample of Suburban Women was approx. 375 individuals
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:30 PM
Nov 2022

Suburban white women was an even smaller sample.

MOE +/- 5.7 for subset, but I think even that is low.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
20. Internals of course out of whack ......
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:36 PM
Nov 2022

and drummed up from HELL....

MOE is +/- 5.7, and not even 400 suburban white housewives polled

Farmer-Rick

(10,183 posts)
53. And they noted that on some questions it was 8% margin of error
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:59 AM
Nov 2022

8% is huge. That means as much as 16% could be off on 1 question if the margin of error was equal on both sides of the question. And overall, the sample was pretty big....not for women though.

To have such a huge margin of error on a 1,500 sample size is awful. That's just a really bad poll.

"Conducted Oct. 22-26, the Wall Street Journal poll surveyed 1,500 registered voters. The subgroup of white suburban women had a margin of error of plus or minus 5.7 percentage points or 8 percentage points on some specific policy questions. "

Don't believe it. This type of poll is commonly and frequently used in Russian and US espionage to demoralize and suppress one or the other voting blocks.

And this really bad poll is splashed all over the web. It's everywhere. Just what a good spy would want to do.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
22. Lmaooooo
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:48 PM
Nov 2022

So they found 375 fucking neighborhood Karen's to do a poll whoop de doo fuck the Wall Street Journal

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
30. We need persuasive, tight economic messaging that our guys repeat continuously.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:11 PM
Nov 2022

Those recent historic charts about the economy under Rs vs Ds: highly impactful
Our plans vs their plans on social security and Medicare: highly impactful if delivered cogently
Their tax breaks for corporations vs our plans for getting them to pay their fair share
Etc…

I’ve been in RI and our candidate’s messaging has been abysmal (yes, I called his office to urge better ads). If we keep this seat - in a state Biden won by 20 points - we’ll be very lucky, polls are not looking good. The R candidate has been hitting the economic messaging like a drumbeat, suggesting heating costs and gas prices will go up under our guy. Over and over, on tv, online ads, 3 home mailings. Our guy just last week finally started talking about the economy.

It was a huge error to think we could coast on Roe. I hope I end up being wrong on that last statement!

Fiendish Thingy

(15,622 posts)
32. My guess is it's not the economy that is shifting suburban women,, but crime
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:32 PM
Nov 2022

Or the perception of crime.

And that’s assuming the poll is accurately reflecting a swing, which I don’t think the small sample size supports.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
34. Yes, it's a small sample
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:46 PM
Nov 2022

There have been other dives into what are the most important issues to voters and the economy is consistently at the top these days. I haven’t seen any addressing this specific demographic, but it’s not inconsistent with the broader samples.

I haven’t seen anything about crime in those other polls, have you seen data on that?

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
56. And why do they think
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:15 AM
Nov 2022

Republicans will do better on crime? There’s zero evidence that their policies lower crime.

Ursus Rex

(148 posts)
61. They're the ones blowing the horn the loudest.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 01:06 PM
Nov 2022

And they have 60+ years of credit for being the "law and order" party.

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
33. I can't think of anything, anything worse than living under
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:41 PM
Nov 2022

a fascist dictator, and I'm a white suburban woman made powerless over my own body's function by a bunch of GOP cretins of robed distinction, SCOTUS, without my consent which I will reclaim!

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
35. IGNORE THE POLLS
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 01:04 AM
Nov 2022

Consider the source. MSM and cable news make big $$$$$$$$$ off of instigating fear. Fear equals ratings/$$$$$. This is how they have been for at least 25 years.

SunSeeker

(51,569 posts)
39. I wish they would ask these women what they think the GOP will do to lower inflation.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:01 AM
Nov 2022

It makes absolutely no sense that if you care about inflation and want it lower, that you would elect a Republican. No Republicans voted for the Inflation Reduction Act. On the contrary, they want to undo key cost saving provisions, like allowing Medicare to negotiate with drug manufacturers over prices.

MacKasey

(987 posts)
41. Look at the picture they used
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:41 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Thu Nov 3, 2022, 05:18 AM - Edit history (1)

Two white women walking with arms around teach other. Now I can see that if it was a mother and daughter but I do not walk that way with my friends. The picture is out of place like 1950 's America. Piece of shit poll


oldsoftie

(12,553 posts)
42. So abortion was only important to suburban women for a few months?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 06:39 AM
Nov 2022

I can see the impact of a scandal or a mis step fading as time passes, but taking away a RIGHT would seem to be something that would STAY with you if you were pissed when it happened.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
43. I don't buy this for one second .... Majority Of Americans Support Abortion, Poll Finds --
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 07:00 AM
Nov 2022
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/06/25/majority-of-americans-support-abortion-poll-finds---but-not-later-in-the-pregnancy/?sh=881d77a50744

A majority of Americans broadly believe abortion should be legal and more than 60% believe people should be able to obtain abortions during the first trimester of their pregnancy, a new Associated Press/NORC poll finds—but support for abortion being legal drops significantly as the pregnancy continues, an issue that will soon be taken up by the U.S. Supreme Court.

*******
BTW the economy is doing great outside of inflation and that is being pushed by outright corporate greed and
staggeringly high earnings by the big oil companies.

*****

That was not a poll but a politically produced hit piece from Rupert to influence the elections.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
65. A majority of Americans have always supported abortion
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 05:45 PM
Nov 2022

But a bunch of them still voted for the r party, despite knowing where those monsters stood on the issue.

The reason they do this?

Too many people are too fricking stupid.

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
45. Suburban moms are more diverse than they used to be
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 07:54 AM
Nov 2022

and I'm sure plenty of them like choice and good jobs with higher wages. Many Americans have the option to work from home a few days a week, so that saves on gas and commuting costs.

This poll may have oversampled the types who think the hired help has gotten too uppity and forgotten their place.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
46. This suburban white woman does not answer polls anymore
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:06 AM
Nov 2022

If the phone goes "boop", I go "Goodbye"--same if they get to "I'm calling for XYZ polls and..."

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
67. And that's why you're anecdote
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 05:50 PM
Nov 2022

Not data.

If you'd answered the poll, you'd be data.

You were selected FOR A REASON. Namely that you were the demographic they were looking for. And you just threw away the chance to speak for suburban women.

Putting a representative sample is tough. They want to talk to people like you, but you won't cooperate. So they have to go to the next white suburban woman, and she's a MAGA nut.

Good going! She got heard, rather than someone sane!

And then you want to complain about polls?

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
68. No, I ignore the polls to a great extent
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 07:52 PM
Nov 2022

I used to answer polls. But too many were push-polls and I got sick of it. Nor was I chosen...you call a landline, you get a household, not a specific person.
Keep your asumptions and scolding to yourself.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
47. Seriously, as if Republicans have ever done anything for the economy but drive us into recessions.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:46 AM
Nov 2022

I will never understand how anyone can think that Republicans are better for the economy when every statistic shows just the opposite. Republicans are better for very rich people and corporations—that’s it.

I’ve long believed that, at least among college-educated Republicans, the claim that the economy is just an excuse that’s less embarrassing than voting for the party of white privilege.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,196 posts)
50. FYI, not everyone in the 'burbs is white!
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:46 AM
Nov 2022

The days when all the people of color were in the urban center and all the white escaped to the suburbs are OVER. Sure, some suburban areas still have a white, non Hispanic majority, but not all by a long shot. In the Houston area, both Harris County (urban) and Fort Bend County (southwest suburban) are BLUE. Look at the Detroit area. 30% of Dearborn speaks Arabic as their first language. 42% are of Arab ancestry.

As a southern white woman, I would like to remind these "journalists" that everything isn't all white!

Old Crank

(3,589 posts)
51. Just the fact that women
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:53 AM
Nov 2022

are still voting republican shows just how ignorant the average US voter is. Not just women but the men who wallow in the GOP lies.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
58. I don't believe this for a minute. They don't want Ted Cruz going to their gyn appointments
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:10 AM
Nov 2022

with them any more than I do. I smell a push poll.

onecaliberal

(32,862 posts)
59. THIS IS COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLSHIT. Gaslighting. GOP wants to own women and we say okay.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:47 AM
Nov 2022

Who the fuck wrote this steaming pile of shit?

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