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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:08 AM Nov 2022

Immigration officials say Pelosi attacker was in US illegally

Source: CNN Politics

Washington (CNN) -- David DePape, the man accused of violently attacking Paul Pelosi last week, was in the United States illegally and may face deportation, the Department of Homeland Security said late Wednesday. "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) lodged an immigration detainer on Canadian national David DePape with San Francisco County Jail, Nov. 1, following his Oct. 28 arrest," the department said.

ICE issues so-called immigration "detainers" to federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies to inform them that the agency intends to take custody of an individual and requests that ICE be notified before that individual is released. The detainer is unlikely to affect DePape's case since deportations often happen after criminal cases are resolved. But after conviction and prison sentence, the US normally would seek deportation.

According to federal records, DePape, a Canadian citizen, entered the country in early March at the San Ysidro port of entry, which is along the California-Mexico border, as a temporary visitor. Generally, Canadians who are visiting for business or pleasure don't require a visa and are allowed to stay in the US for six months.

DePape, 42, has been charged with a litany of crimes, including assault, attempted murder and attempted kidnapping, following last week's break-in at Pelosi's San Francisco home, the US attorney's office and San Francisco district attorney announced on Monday.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/03/politics/david-depape-paul-pelosi-attack/index.html

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Immigration officials say Pelosi attacker was in US illegally (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 OP
That's gonna be a real brain splitter for Magaloons. Do they praise him for the attempted murder? 3Hotdogs Nov 2022 #1
Oh they can do both nt doc03 Nov 2022 #5
They'll praise him for the violence and revile Dems for allowing an illegal immigrant IronLionZion Nov 2022 #6
I think you nailed it Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #11
+1. iluvtennis Nov 2022 #22
They'll praise him bc their illegal immigration schtick is about BROWN people FlyingPiggy Nov 2022 #44
This! ShazzieB Nov 2022 #45
Guess we better build that wall up north eh?? Bengus81 Nov 2022 #2
He came through the Mexican border. No need for border wall in Canada. jimfields33 Nov 2022 #9
So for 20yrs they let this happen Historic NY Nov 2022 #3
Why would a Canadian feel so violently about American politics? IronLionZion Nov 2022 #4
One might remember this over the winter BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #8
They didn't accomplish much on the American side IronLionZion Nov 2022 #13
Yup BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #15
Well, then (says the RW) he deserved it cyclonefence Nov 2022 #7
He entered as a visitor. LisaL Nov 2022 #10
This is the first verifiably dangerous "illegal immigrant" to intheflow Nov 2022 #12
"Build the wall!" didn't stop Canadians coming here visa free as visitors IronLionZion Nov 2022 #14
I'm just saying, intheflow Nov 2022 #16
And he overstayed his authorization to visit SouthBayDem Nov 2022 #25
Too much focus on the brown undocumented immigrants. Baitball Blogger Nov 2022 #17
So how does this work? Prosecute, convict and incarcerate then deport? nt mitch96 Nov 2022 #18
Yes. 99% of mmigration violations fall somewhere between LeftInTX Nov 2022 #21
Tnx...nt mitch96 Nov 2022 #33
Some political movements are Globalized these days JI7 Nov 2022 #19
Well geeze, the cost of the wall CCExile Nov 2022 #20
But first reports said he was a hemp jewelry maker out of Berkely, did they not? niyad Nov 2022 #23
Didn't he also control one of MTG's Jewish space lasers? keithbvadu2 Nov 2022 #24
"May face deportation"? The Mouth Nov 2022 #26
Yeeted IronLionZion Nov 2022 #27
"May" is media speak for legalize. (It means the deportation has not had due process yet) LeftInTX Nov 2022 #37
Will someone who knows the law, please explain this? Sogo Nov 2022 #28
I think the operative answer was in your post BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #29
Don't sanctuary cities generally refuse to accept ICE detainers anyway? MichMan Nov 2022 #42
Post removed Post removed Nov 2022 #30
prison rape isn't funny Kali Nov 2022 #31
Canada doesn't always send us their best dalton99a Nov 2022 #32
As a Texan, I'd love to see Rafael Cruz go back to Canada. area51 Nov 2022 #41
A Scot, born in England, emigrated to Canada as a child, and has lived in the US for 21 years Celerity Nov 2022 #43
Not at all Encouraging TrueDemocracy Nov 2022 #34
Have no idea what gobbledy gook you are talking about BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #35
+1,000! SheltieLover Nov 2022 #36
What? Hekate Nov 2022 #38
You seem concerned mcar Nov 2022 #39
CNN llashram Nov 2022 #40

3Hotdogs

(12,391 posts)
1. That's gonna be a real brain splitter for Magaloons. Do they praise him for the attempted murder?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:30 AM
Nov 2022

Or revile him as an illegal immigrant?

FlyingPiggy

(3,384 posts)
44. They'll praise him bc their illegal immigration schtick is about BROWN people
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:48 AM
Nov 2022

Not white. It’s not about illegal immigration. It’s about racism hiding behind illegal immigration.

ShazzieB

(16,426 posts)
45. This!
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 09:40 PM
Nov 2022

He's white, not brown, and he's Canadian, not Hispanic. He isn't going to trigger their racist radar at all.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
2. Guess we better build that wall up north eh??
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:31 AM
Nov 2022

How ironic,a hate filled Trump humping,Qassanon posting racist and ILLEGAL to boot.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
3. So for 20yrs they let this happen
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:35 AM
Nov 2022

So he was a back and forth, turnstile Canadian If they can tell us that now why did they not bar him re-entry knowing this has been going on for 20yrs.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
4. Why would a Canadian feel so violently about American politics?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:35 AM
Nov 2022

And of course everyone assumed he was American since he's white.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
8. One might remember this over the winter
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:43 AM
Nov 2022




with the "Freedom Convoys" at border crossings between the U.S. and multiple Canadian provinces, and then the later copy-cat attempts here in the U.S. where MAGats attempted to mindlessly drive in circles while stuck in traffic on the Washington Beltway.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
7. Well, then (says the RW) he deserved it
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 08:42 AM
Nov 2022

because it was Nancy's fault for letting the murderers and rapists in through our "porous" borders.

intheflow

(28,477 posts)
12. This is the first verifiably dangerous "illegal immigrant" to
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:06 AM
Nov 2022

cross the Mexican border, and - surprise, surprise! - it turns out the reason he's a danger is that he's MAGA without even the right to vote in this country.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
14. "Build the wall!" didn't stop Canadians coming here visa free as visitors
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:15 AM
Nov 2022

Maybe there's a MAGA reason he came in through Mexico. hmmm....

intheflow

(28,477 posts)
16. I'm just saying,
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:21 AM
Nov 2022

they're all up in arms about brown people crossing the Mexican border, but white guys from Canada crossing the Mexican border? Not so much. Meanwhile, white dude is the danger.

SouthBayDem

(32,034 posts)
25. And he overstayed his authorization to visit
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:55 AM
Nov 2022
According to federal records, DePape, a Canadian citizen, entered the country in early March at the San Ysidro port of entry, which is along the California-Mexico border, as a temporary visitor. Generally, Canadians who are visiting for business or pleasure don’t require a visa and are allowed to stay in the US for six months.

LeftInTX

(25,380 posts)
21. Yes. 99% of mmigration violations fall somewhere between
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:29 AM
Nov 2022

a traffic violation and misdemeanor. Deportation is not considered a punishment.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
19. Some political movements are Globalized these days
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:14 AM
Nov 2022

Some examples are how White racists in the US get angry over things that happen with race issues in South Africa and how they think blacks are taking white people's farms and things there. Of course they will ignore the history of these places.

Also the migration issues in Europe. In the UK the immigration issue is huge.

And we have the internet and social media these days so these people can connect with each other.

I was watching some youtube travel channels and a couple assholes from Europe would attack Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.

They hate Justin Trudeau also . Justin Trudeau seems to be the most hated male .

Their is this whole online culture of the Jordan petersons and tucker carlsons and others where they all listen to each other.

CCExile

(469 posts)
20. Well geeze, the cost of the wall
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:16 AM
Nov 2022

just quadrupled! The only reasonable thing to do is send more money to con-men, um, I mean Republicans!

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
26. "May face deportation"?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:05 AM
Nov 2022

What the hell?

A- they should never get out of jail, period.

B- *anyone* in the country illegally who commits *any* crime should be yeeted across the border the nanosecond they have served their sentence, period, no exemptions, exclusions or conditions.

LeftInTX

(25,380 posts)
37. "May" is media speak for legalize. (It means the deportation has not had due process yet)
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:14 PM
Nov 2022

Deportation is guaranteed after sentences are served.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
28. Will someone who knows the law, please explain this?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:27 AM
Nov 2022

"ICE issues so-called immigration "detainers" to federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies to inform them that the agency intends to take custody of an individual and requests that ICE be notified before that individual is released. The detainer is unlikely to affect DePape's case since deportations often happen after criminal cases are resolved. But after conviction and prison sentence, the US normally would seek deportation."


It sounds like they will deport him and he won't face any punishment....?

Or, deported in his case "after prison sentence" would mean never, because he could get life?


BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
29. I think the operative answer was in your post
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:36 AM
Nov 2022
The detainer is unlikely to affect DePape's case since deportations often happen after criminal cases are resolved.


In this situation, there are 2 sets of "criminal cases" in play - one for federal charges and one for state charges. So it will be awhile before either are "resolved" and the issue of deportation happens.

I expect what ICE might be doing is notifying counterparts in Canada as a heads-up for diplomatic/MOU purposes, regarding one of their citizens being in custody.

If by some bizarre set of circumstances, this individual is acquitted of all charges, both state and federal, then they would most likely start the deportation process.

It's all an administrative thing in any case.

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TrueDemocracy

(2 posts)
34. Not at all Encouraging
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:14 PM
Nov 2022

The timing of this Factoid is awful. Unfortunately, I fear that this fact will make Americans see our party as irresponsible for allowing poor illegal aliens or poor migrants to stay in the US.. I hope this does not hurt us. We need to show up and Vote. But unfortunately, this article does not motivate the Democratic Vote.

Best not to pass along this link. I think now a days with Ratings needed, CNN is trying to be less polarizing. They are becoming more mainstream. Unfortunately, this article looks a little Fox Like. Its depressing that our friends at CNN have to post something like this at this moment when voting has already started. Ugh!

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