N. Korea fires more missiles as US flies bombers over South

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

By KIM TONG-HYUNG

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea added to its recent barrage of weapons demonstrations by launching four ballistic missiles into the sea on Saturday, as the United States sent two supersonic bombers streaking over South Korea in a dueling display of military might that underscored rising tensions in the region.

South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff said that the four short-range missiles fired from a western coastal area around noon flew about 130 kilometers (80 miles) toward the country’s western sea.

The North has test-fired more than 30 missiles this week, including an intercontinental ballistic missile on Thursday that triggered evacuation alerts in northern Japan, and flew large numbers of warplanes inside its territory in an angry reaction to a massive combined aerial exercise between the United States and South Korea.

The South Korean military said two B-1B bombers trained with four U.S. F-16 fighter jets and four South Korean F-35s jets during the last day of the “Vigilant Storm” joint air force drills that wraps up Saturday. It marked the first time since December 2017 that the bombers were deployed to the Korean Peninsula. The exercise involved around 240 warplanes, including advanced F-35 fighter jets from both countries.



FILE - In this photo provided by South Korea Defense Ministry, U.S. Air Force B-1B bombers, F-35B stealth fighter jets and South Korean F-15K fighter jets fly over the Korean Peninsula during joint drills on Sept. 18, 2017. The United States will fly a supersonic bomber over ally South Korea as part of a massive combined aerial exercise involving hundreds of warplanes, in a show of force meant to intimidate North Korea over its barrage of ballistic missile tests this week that has escalated tensions in the region. (South Korea Defense Ministry via AP, File)


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[no_hypocrisy]

1. So, who's going to win this game of Chicken?

[cstanleytech]

3. Well it isnt going to be N. Korea as they know if they start an actual war that they would

lose.
Why is N. Korea is doing this at all? More than likely it is for internal use as propaganda as those in charge are scared spitless of an uprising that ends up with their heads on a pike so they need to appear powerful in order to cow their people.

[Lovie777]

2. It's time to reunite both Korea's re: Democracy ....

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

4. No way to do that without war.

The North regime won't give up an inch without a fight. And if the South surrenders (or the US gives them up) it'll be a disaster.

On the other hand, the North also knows they would never survive an actual war, no matter how badly they hurt their enemies along the way. This is mostly posturing and both sides know it.

[cstanleytech]

5. Kim and his people will never support anything that might lead to their losing power.

[Roy Rolling]

6. Kim *is* his people

North Korea has one opinion—Kim’s.

[cstanleytech]

7. No, I suspect he is alot like Trump where he has the support of other like minded people

in power.

[paleotn]

8. And that's different than 40% of American how?

[soryang]

12. Right Lovie777

네, 유일한 합리적인 길입니다.

The US militaristic approach, with quisling dictator Yoon Seok-yeol's cooperation, has no hope of success, but is provoking the very nuclear weapons testing and development that it claims to oppose. The war industry always needs another military crisis to promote sales.

Did the massive US South Korean military exercises make the North Korean's feel that they didn't need nuclear weapons? I've been following developments on the Korean peninsula virtually every day for seven years. I haven't seen such a massive armada of combat aircraft operating in South Korea like this one. After a five year hiatus based on the Singapore summit, did the return of US strategic weapon platforms to South Korea lower or increase the tension? I wonder if the B1-B's flew there coast in profiles to drop a "shape" on a northerly course toward the DMZ like they used to. That's sure to lower tensions right?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

13. Unfuckingbelievable!!!!

You're really blaming the US for the Norks firing barrages of missiles?

Lil kimmy's citizens are starving, living under the most repressive regime ever seen and Lil Kimmy, instead of feeding his citizens, he lavishes most of the country's resources on his military, yet you want to place the blame on the US for his belligerence towards S. Korea, Japan and the US.

As I said, unfuckingbelievable.

[soryang]

14. they're starving because of the US embargo

hello!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

15. Wow!!!!

Just wow.

They were starving long before any US embargo, who invaded who in 1950? Who has threatened to wipe out S. Korea over and over again?
Who has constantly..........oh never mind, have fun with your fantasies.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

16. Oh, I see now,

just about everything on this issue, you come down on the Norks side and blame the US or
S. Korea for the Norks actions.

[EX500rider]

17. The poster takes China's side when you talk about the South China Sea also

[soryang]

19. Charivari

"...in the night of our ignorance...all alien shapes take on the same hue." Bruce Cummings quoting Perry Anderson in Korean War- a History.

George F. Kennan wrote, “are things that constitute the deepest and most intimate processes of national life. There is nothing less understandable to foreigners, nothing in which foreign influence can do less good.”36 It is our blindness, our hidden complex of unexamined assumptions, that constitutes the core of Kim hating—what makes him simultaneously so
laughable, so impudent, and so outrageous; we revile him, while he thumbs his nose at usand our values and gets away with it. We have proved over seven decades that we do not understand North Korea and that we cannot do anything about it, however much we would like to. We can do something about our prejudices...

After seven decades of confrontation, the dominant American images of North Korea still bear the birthmarks of Orientalist bigotry.

id pp249-250

[EX500rider]

18. Quisling dictator? Lol

I think you mean the democratically elected president of South Korea.

One of the Koreas certainly has a dictator but it's not the South.

[soryang]

21. Elder Statesman Cheong Se-hyun

...recently characterized the political climate in South Korea where leaders of the Democratic Party and other critics are prosecuted by the Yoon Seok-yeol administration as similar to that of the early dictatorships. Yoon changed the organization of the previously independent National Police arbitrarilay without legislative authorization to place it under the Ministry of Interior and Public Safety as it was during the Chun Doo-wan dictatorship.

From TBR Weekly Update: Week 4, October 2022:

Previously, the Yoon administration removed all 27 section chiefs 국장 of the NIS, a spy agency purge unprecedented in South Korean history in scale...

... Prosecutors’ pressure against Democratic Party chairman Lee Jae-myung 이재명 민주당 당대표 intensified as a key witness in the Daejang-dong real estate scandal changed his story. Last week, the Seoul Central District Prosecutors’ Office 서울중앙지방검찰청 raided the Democratic Party 민주당 headquarters, in the first raid of the main opposition party since the Park Chung-hee 박정희 dictatorship in 1979.

Many of the Ministers and top level officials of the previous administration have been subjected to virtually hundreds of unjustified warrants on fishing expeditions to fabricate charges against opposition politicians and their families simply isn't reported in the US because the inconvenient truth is that South Korea is reverting to a police state similar in nature to the prior dictatorships. As long as Yoon does their bidding, US officials could care less.

[EX500rider]

22. Was he democratically elected? Then not a dictator. nt

[soryang]

23. Syngman Rhee was elected

He was also a dictator.

Dictator Park Chung-hee was elected president more than once.

Before and during his election campaign, Yoon and his henchman, now the Minister of Justice, Han Dong-hun, engaged in a campaign of investigation and prosecution of political rivals and critics. Yoon was subjected to sanctions for unethical professional conduct as Prosecutor General, for which he should have been fired according to the Supreme Court, dismissing his petition for injunction as invalid. Yoon then quit his office to avoid sanctions. One of Yoon's offenses was unlawfully investigating judges. Now, again without legislation, only Yoon's diktat, Han Dong-hun has been placed in charge of investigating all judicial candidates. Taking control of the National Police without legislation is another obvious reversal to police state status.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

25. I've noticed that you have nothing bad to say about the tyrant Lil Kimmy,

or China for that matter, you seem to always slam the US or S. Korea but nary a word of criticism towards those two dictatorships.

Why is that?

[soryang]

26. I've noticed that few people here know anything about Korea

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They post their opinions without having any understanding of the history or what is going on there now. Millions of US viewers of conventional media can repeat pentagon memes and cold war stereotypes which have progressed little since the McCarthy era.

"Yoon has all but declared the opposition as the enemy of the state, as he said this week in an address to the PPP: “There will be no cooperation in governance with the pro-North Korean juche-ists 종북주사파.” TK Park

Yoon is adopting a pro-Japanese line which predates the liberation. He's chinilpa.



Democrats denounce Yoon's political oppression of the opposition party and his revenge motivated investigations and arrests of politicians.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

27. You know what I notice?

You tap dancing around my question, maybe you didn't understand it, so I'll repeat it,
why is it that you don't criticize either N. Korea's Lil Kimmy and his repressive regime or China's Xi and his repressive regime?
Why is it you only slam the US, S. Korea and Japan?

I think I already know Comrade, but I would like to hear it from you.

[MicaelS]

20. Comrade, you forgot to add....

Running dog lackeys of the bourgeoise.

[EX500rider]

24. And how exactly is a democratically elected President of South Korea a "quisling"?

quisling:
a traitor who collaborates with an enemy force occupying their country

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

9. Kim Jong Un plays with his toys while his people starve

[Schmice3]

10. AND YET...

it is better that they fire their missiles harmlessly into the ocean instead of into Ukraine where Vlad really needs them.

[sl8]

11. Also in North Korea: Yearly 'battle' begins in North Korea over human waste for fertilizer

Guess they know how to set priorities. From February:

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/manure-02012022130916.html

Yearly ‘battle’ begins in North Korea over human waste for fertilizer

Citizens once again steal human feces from each other’s toilets to meet impossibly high quotas.

By Myung Chul Lee
2022.02.01

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/manure-02012022130916.html/@@images/e248f31e-b717-452c-af7e-d6c5f48246a8.jpeg

In this Monday, Jan. 23, 2017 photo, a farm worker digs into a pile of locally-produced Juche fertilizer at Migok Cooperative Farm near Sariwon, North Hwanghae Province, North Korea.

Competition for human feces has once again become cutthroat in North Korea, with mass public brawls breaking out as citizens begin the annual ritual of trying to fill unrealistic quotas to make fertilizer for the farming season.

In impoverished North Korea, farmland is fertilized using human waste, and the government tasks every household with yearly collection quotas.

RFA reported in January 2019 that households were struggling to meet an impossible quota amounting to 100 kilograms (220 pounds) per able-bodied citizen per day.

One source at that time told RFA the quota was intentionally unreasonable because the true purpose of the quota was to force the citizens to pay fines and bribes for failure to meet targets.

The quota is slightly more reasonable in 2022, as each citizen has until March to collect 300 kilograms of manure—human waste mixed with soil—per person, but the quota still means people must dip into their reserves, or find deposits elsewhere.

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