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Omaha Steve

(99,653 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 06:21 PM Nov 2022

Nevada secretary of state declines to lift hand-count ban

Source: AP

By GABE STERN

RENO, Nev. (AP) — Nevada’s secretary of state declined Friday to lift a ban on a rural county’s controversial early hand-count of mail-in ballots, saying a modified procedure the county clerk proposed still raises “concerns relating to the integrity of the election.”

Republican Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske ordered Nye County last week to halt its hand-counting of ballots until after polls close on Nov. 8. Her order came after the Nevada Supreme Court issued an opinion siding with the American Civil Liberties Union’s objections to the reading of individual votes out loud.

In a letter to the county Friday, Cegavske invited county officials to update or better explain their proposal for a silent hand-count with more details.

But the move makes it increasingly difficult for Nye County to revise, submit, get approval and carry out plans for the hand-count of mail-in ballots before polls close on Election Day.



FILE - Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske attends the summer conference of the National Association of Secretaries of State in Baton Rouge, La., on July 8, 2022. Republican Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske ordered Nye County last week to halt its hand-counting of ballots until after polls close on Nov. 8. Her order came after the Nevada Supreme Court issued an opinion siding with the American Civil Liberties Union’s objections to the reading of individual votes out loud. (AP Photo/Matthew Hinton, File)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-nevada-reno-barbara-cegavske-4366bc3882e828dd6eab3d8a1c90d954

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Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
1. Nye County, Nevada.
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 06:55 PM
Nov 2022

I watch On Patrol, the new version of Live PD. Nye County is one of the places they visit. Now, I know shows like this don't show the world the best and brightest of citizens, and I'm sure there are plenty of good prople there.

But damn, there are people on that show from many areas that I hope are not voting at all.

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
3. I wouldn't think so, but might be wrong...
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 07:55 PM
Nov 2022

Not sure how Nevada does it, but I've never put my name or any identifying info on a ballot...that I know of. Usually, the poll ladies mark me off as voted and just hand me a ballot from a stack.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
4. Same here in California
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 08:11 PM
Nov 2022

and I think everywhere, whether paper or electronic ballot, there is no record of who you voted for.

ToxMarz

(2,168 posts)
5. These are mail in ballots, I'm not sure what's on them
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 11:05 PM
Nov 2022

but they must somehow be tied to a registered voter and/or signed in some places.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
9. Our mail-in ballots are signed by the voter
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 02:26 AM
Nov 2022

only on the outside of the envelope. The only way the marked ballot is tied to the voter is that it is sealed inside the envelope. Once the signature on the outside of the envelope is verified the envelope is opened and the ballot goes into an anonymous stack of ballots the same as ballots that went into a ballot box.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
10. Same in Minnesota
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 03:26 AM
Nov 2022

We get our mail-in ballot kit in the mail in a big envelope, and inside that are three more envelopes like Russian nesting dolls. The biggest is a prepaid return envelope, the next smaller is one I fill out with my voter info and the witness’s signature appears on, and the smallest is a plain blue unmarked envelope that holds my ballot, which contains only my black dot votes.

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
14. Same here in VT. Unless they keep the two together....
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:05 AM
Nov 2022

there's no way of linking a vote to an actual voter. As it should be.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
15. A poll worker could open the return envelope and then look at the ballot
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:14 AM
Nov 2022

It's a crime for an election official in Michigan to disclose to anyone else how a voter voted

Old Crank

(3,589 posts)
11. The first report thar I read
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 03:54 AM
Nov 2022

Had one person reading the name of the person who the vote was for. A second person who was observing the reader to confirm and three people separately tallying. Then the tallies should all be the same. You would need a person from each party for the first two, article didn't confirm this, and a split for the talliers.
The original complaint was that reading the names out meant that the vote was being announced prior to election day.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
8. What's interesting is that the incumbent Repub SOS is siding with the Courts and the ACLU
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 02:25 AM
Nov 2022

The current Repub candidate for Secretary of State is a Stop-the-Stealer.

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