Rudy Giuliani will not face criminal charges in foreign lobbying case, prosecutors say

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: CNBC

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani will not face criminal charges in an investigation related to his efforts in Ukraine to help former President Donald Trump politically, federal prosecutors told a judge Monday. Giuliani, a former top federal prosecutor who has acted as Trump’s personal lawyer in the past, faced a grand jury probe in the Southern District of New York for two years related to his work in Ukraine.

The grand jury was examining whether he violated the U.S. Foreign Agents Registration Act, and his attempts to oust Marie Yovanovitch, the American ambassador there. Federal agents seized his electronic devices in New York in April 2021 as part of that investigation.

“The Government writes to notify the Court that the grand jury investigation that led to the issuance of the above-referenced warrants has concluded, and that based on information currently available to the Government, criminal charges are not forthcoming,” U.S. Attorney in Manhattan Damian Williams wrote Judge J. Paul Oetken on Monday.

Williams asked the judge in the same letter to terminate the appointment of former federal judge Barbara Jones as a special master, or watchdog, to review documents seized from Giuliani.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/14/rudy-giuliani-will-not-face-criminal-charges-in-foreign-lobbying-case-prosecutors-say.html

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This is probably the least of his worries.

Article updated.

Original article -

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani will not face criminal charges in an investigation related to his efforts in Ukraine to help former President Donald Trump politically, federal prosecutors told a judge Monday.

Giuliani, who is a former top federal prosecutor, has in the past acted as Trump’s personal lawyer, including in efforts to reverse losses in various states in the 2020 presidential election.



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[yaesu]

1. If I pulled that crap I would be in prison for at least a decade, the dual justice system strikes

again, surprise, surprise.

[TheBlackAdder]

2. You, me and 99.95% of the Us Population.

[brooklynite]

12. When in doubt, blame Garland and the Biden DOJ.

The decision was made by the Grand Jury, ie. actual citizen jurors.

[FarPoint]

19. I sense this fella has flipped, squealed, spilled all the beans on tRump ....

I believe he gave all the goods on foreign interference into the 2020 election.....

Then, he has a sympathy card to pull...." I'm an alcoholic" and " I have a gambling addiction or that he is in great debt to the Mob"...which steered him down this path of hitting his bottom.

[Joinfortmill]

25. Me too.

[Marcuse]

28. "911!!!!!"

[durablend]

3. I guess Rudy promised to "never ever" do it again

Good enough for me!

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. Any chance this means it is because he has flipped on others?

[Icanthinkformyself]

5. Not likely

the GJ refused to indict the ham sandwich we call Colluddy Rudy.

[FarPoint]

20. YES, YES

and YES! See my post #19..... Fully cooperating at this time.

[Joinfortmill]

24. I wondered that. There must be more to this story.

[SledDriver]

6. Can't take any actions to hold Trump or his people accountable now can we?

[republianmushroom]

7. Male Bovine Fecal Matter IMO

[Corgigal]

8. What does Ukraine say about this?

The long serving ambassador?

Efforts, my behind. He was moving all the parts.

[Vinca]

9. This could mean they've got bigger, insurrection-related plans for Rudy.

[Justice matters.]

10. Or this could mean none of the treasonous fat cats will ever be held

accountable for that violent attack on democracy too.

[Fullduplexxx]

14. Correct only Lynndie England goes to prison

[machoneman]

11. WTF? Any other American would at least be charged, even if found not guilty. Christ, what does...

...it take to bring TFG's henchmen down? Death?

[Fullduplexxx]

13. A grand jury can indict a ham sammich

[Rebl2]

15. Of course he won't 🤬

[Historic NY]

16. Still owes the ex-wife

[BumRushDaShow]

18. I thought I read that he supposedly "paid up" by the deadline

with proof he had forwarded 2 checks or something...

But then he has 3 ex-wives so....

[electric_blue68]

17. Geeeebz. 😬

[Evolve Dammit]

21. "The real owners. They own this fucking place." G. Carlin "American Dream"

[Kennah]

22. He's getting probation at the Ritz

[Joinfortmill]

23. That's it? That's the story? Gotta be more to this than is being reported.

[BumRushDaShow]

26. The "investigation" was started under Bill Barr

and I wouldn't be surprised if things were done by the 45-appointed SDNY U.S. Attorney that wouldn't have made it an air-tight case. In fact (and the guy published a book about it), it apparently lead to a big mess when it came to Ghouliani and his favorite guys Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, and he was forced out.

He has a helluva lot worse stuff to be charged with in any case.

[samsingh]

27. he's a white male republican who's also a traitor, criminal, liar - he's above the law

[LiberalLovinLug]

29. Another olive branch

And it gets us nothing.....ever.

When that story first came out, I was certain Rudy would be reprimanded to some degree.
Nope. Just wait long enough, when its gone from the public discourse, and quietly overlook it. Because..........................? Maybe they will be nice to us now? Garland is a joke. sorry

[BumRushDaShow]

30. The OP story was about the "Russia probe" that was NOT started under Garland but Bill Barr (as AG)

By the time Garland was confirmed, the fix was already in by Barr as we saw with all the other crap that happened with the kneecpping of the Mueller probe by Barr.

And as a note - Ghoulian's law license has been suspended in NY and in D.C..

He has been subject to a disciplinary hearing in D.C. that commenced last month -

Giuliani’s lawyers submit witness list for upcoming DC attorney discipline hearing


By Katelyn Polantz, CNN
Published 2:21 PM EDT, Sat October 15, 2022

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The DC bar’s Office of Disciplinary Counsel, which has brought an ethics case against Giuliani as a member of the DC bar, says he was pushing unsubstantiated election fraud accusations in a Pennsylvania federal court on behalf of Trump. In oral arguments for the lawsuit filed days after the 2020 election, Giuliani claimed, without evidence, that the “best description of this situation is it’s widespread, nationwide voter fraud of which this is a part.”

The disciplinary filings allege that Giuliani sought to “leverage the lawful rejection of two ballots by non-defendant counties into invalidating up to 1.5 million votes already counted.” The DC bar also charges that there was no “legal basis” for the constitutional claims Giuliani pursued in the Pennsylvania litigation.

The disciplinary office proceeding, called a charge, further puts Giuliani’s status as a lawyer in jeopardy. An upcoming hearing in December will be akin to a trial and takes place before a committee that will make findings and could make recommendations for possible professional sanctions of Giuliani, a former US Attorney. Giuliani had already been suspended from practicing law by the New York bar as that office also investigates his election fraud efforts on behalf of Trump in court.

The DC Court of Appeals has the ultimate authority over the bar’s disciplinary proceedings, and the court reviews and approves any disciplinary actions that include the suspension or disbarment of an attorney accused of misconduct.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/15/politics/giuliani-witness-list-dc-ethics-election-fraud

[LiberalLovinLug]

38. The OP made it seem like it was more about the Ukrainian extortion scheme

Or are you saying this aspect was covered under a more general umbrella of the "Russia probe".?

When I read articles like this one,

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/12/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-impeachment-marie-yovanovitch

And in the latest instance of “yeah we did it” from Team Trump, we have Giuliani telling New Yorker reporter Adam Entous that he totally worked behind the scenes to push outMarie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, as part of the campaign to get Ukraine to do Trump’s political bidding

It makes my blood boil to watch this brave intelligent woman Marie Yovanovitch be uncermoniously yanked from her job because she didn't go along with the scheme. And there be no consequences.

So I gather that no matter what or how Rudy went about this business, he did not technically violate the U.S. Foreign Agents Registration Act, for this to even be brought up as reasons for his disbarment.

[BumRushDaShow]

39. Remember that Ghouliani was involved in all sorts of crimes

whether it was with Cohen, with Ukraine, and with all the Russia mess.

Specifically for Ukraine, he was doing business in there (and this was before Zelenskyy was elected, so under Poroshenko) and ended up getting hooked up with Igor Fruman and Lev Parnas (you remember those guys)! They were both charged, tried, and convicted.

Parnas.

Fruman.

Those two were the "dirt diggers" for Ghoul related to Ukraine, and this was used to go after Yovanovitch, and of course Hunter Biden. But Parnas (a Ukranian-American) was also the money funneler for GOP campaigns, and that "money" was coming from a Russsian oligarch (Mueller connection).

And because of the convoluted mess that evolved with the US Attorney for SDNY (and the guy at the time was Geoffrey Berman wrote a book about it, and testified for the J6 Committe IIRC), Ghouliani managed to skate because 45 demanded that focus be put on going after Cohen instead, and by the time Biden's DOJ got to Ghoul, I expect the whole porfolio of evidence collection, etc., was probably a disaster.

(ETA - I remember way back when Rachel would update her big chart of all the various and sundry characters involved in all the different criminal schemes and how they were interrelated)

[LiberalLovinLug]

41. What a mess

Thanks for the info

[BumRushDaShow]

42. It is a mess

and you are most welcome!

It has all blended together but then I guess because it was all coming out of the same criminal organization, which had multiple rackets going.

[lees1975]

31. Wonder how much it cost

to buy a grand jury?

This is bullshit. It really is. What we know in public is enough to indict. Don't tease us with "they're looking at bigger things." Just let him off and find out how much an appeals court will cost Bannon.

[orangecrush]

32. .....

[BumRushDaShow]

34. The case being discussed in the OP was brought under Bill Barr

not Garland. It was part of the Mueller probe that Barr effectively knee-capped.

See what is posted here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2994813

The previous SDNY US Attorney under 45 was "removed" and that pretty much made a mess of the whole thing.

The mess was further complicated by Barr-appointed Special Prosecutor John Durham, who as of last month, lost the last of what became a 3rd case ending in acquittal, related to 45's faux outrage over "Russian collusion".

Ghouliani is under far worse legal jeopardy.

[orangecrush]

35. Thank you

I stand corrected.

[BumRushDaShow]

36. You're welcome

Getting the stench of Bill Barr out of DOJ can't come soon enough!!!

[orangecrush]

37. You said it!