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Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:30 AM Nov 2022

Mass shooting at LGBT+ club follows wave of threats to drag performers and venues

Source: The Independant

Moments after he entered, a 22-year-old gunman allegedly fired into a LGBT+ club in Colorado Springs, killing at least five people and injuring 25 others.

The attack inside the drag venue and club that has served as safe haven for the city’s LGBT+ community for more than two decades follows a wave of politicised harassment aimed at drag performers and the venues that host them.

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LGBT+ advocates and public officials condemned the mass shooting as an act of hate-driven violence, born from “America’s toxic mix of bigotry and absurdly easy access to firearms,” according to a statement from Lambda Legal CEO Kevin Jennings.

The proliferation of mis- and disinformation about LGBT+ people has fuelled the rise in on- and offline hate, which advocates have repeatedly warned will pave the way for offline violence.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mass-shooting-at-lgbt-club-follows-wave-of-threats-to-drag-performers-and-venues/ar-AA14lyzt?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4cbb0e11684f40059dee8cde8b2b2c93



I fear we will see more of this coming soon.
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Mass shooting at LGBT+ club follows wave of threats to drag performers and venues (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Nov 2022 OP
Let's see if I got this straight: AverageOldGuy Nov 2022 #1
How could they possibly know that quickly the person had never been to the club before I wonder? Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #6
The alleged murderer was shooting right after entering. Patrons subdued him. niyad Nov 2022 #7
It's the last line in the WaPo article in the post I was replying to ... Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #12
I like it republianmushroom Nov 2022 #13
I fear more will be coming soon as well. sheshe2 Nov 2022 #2
Some reporter needs to get Don't Say Gay DeSantis thoughts Funtatlaguy Nov 2022 #3
I am certain that recent developments at Twitter will fire even more hatred and actions. Ford_Prefect Nov 2022 #4
I know this place isn't into firearms but LGBTQ people need to get into the gun culture. reymega life Nov 2022 #5
Already ahead of ya vercetti2021 Nov 2022 #8
Regression by bullet; they think they can shoot their way back to repressive times. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #9
I'm sick of these bastards. Need to start taking them OUT at the scene. oldsoftie Nov 2022 #10
Freedom is diminished, with or without additional security bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #11
When do we call out Fox News for instigating a genocide? Initech Nov 2022 #14
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2022 #15
Wisconsin Democrats had a drag queen host a fundraiser for my Congressman, Marc Pocan. milestogo Nov 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author milestogo Nov 2022 #17

AverageOldGuy

(1,530 posts)
1. Let's see if I got this straight:
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:46 AM
Nov 2022

UVALDE, TX: 75 heavily-armed cops stand around for 45 minutes with their heads up their asses while a shooter methodically murders 21 kids inside the school.

COLORADO SPRINGS, CO: Gunman enters gay bar, fires a few shots, two queers jump him, disarm him, throw him to the floor and beat the shit out of him.

Could it be that we need more gay cops?

From the Washington Post:

A patron tackled the gunman inside Club Q and prevented him from killing more people, one of the club’s co-owners said Sunday.

Nic Grzecka said he and his co-owner had reviewed surveillance video that showed the gunman entering the building and immediately begin firing, leaving five dead and two dozen wounded, including customers and staffers.

Grzecka said the shooting lasted no more than two minutes before a patron subdued the gunman and another helped hold him down. Police arrived about three minutes later, he said.

“I don’t even know the names of these people,” Grzecka said of the two patrons. “But what they did is incredible.”

Club Q had an “active-shooter protocol,” which Grzecka’s co-owner, Matthew Haynes, said was “followed to the letter.” The two owners arrived at the scene minutes after the shooting, Grzecka said.

They turned recordings from surveillance cameras inside the club over to investigators. Grzecka said they checked their records, which showed the suspect had never been to the club before.
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. How could they possibly know that quickly the person had never been to the club before I wonder?
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 02:25 AM
Nov 2022

Do they never let anyone inside unless their ID can be scanned by its barcode, and then maintain a list of everyone who ever enters based on that barcode? That's actually a little disturbing if so I have to say. 'Not Cool' to store that info, IMHO.

Anyways ... kudos to these heroes.

What an absolutely horrible attack on innocent people this was

niyad

(113,348 posts)
7. The alleged murderer was shooting right after entering. Patrons subdued him.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:41 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Mon Nov 21, 2022, 10:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Where are you reading the ID stuff?

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. It's the last line in the WaPo article in the post I was replying to ...
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:44 AM
Nov 2022
Grzecka said they checked their records, which showed the suspect had never been to the club before.


Maybe they'd never bought anything there (using their own credit card), I suppose that makes sense to be able to quickly check, but I wonder if they could actually be sure he'd never been there period.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
2. I fear more will be coming soon as well.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:55 AM
Nov 2022

The far right are fueling this with disinformation, see MGT and Boebo, CO Rep for example. They spew hate, fear and lies.

I am straight and have been to a hell of a lot of gay bars with my friends over the years. We went to have fun and dance. No one ever had an issue that I was there, it was always a warm and welcoming community. I felt safer there than most straight bars.

I am so sorry, BtA.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
10. I'm sick of these bastards. Need to start taking them OUT at the scene.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:14 AM
Nov 2022

No long drawn out trial, costing millions, where the shooter gets to become a hero to the sick minded, no "terrible childhood' excuses, none of the other BS we see in these cases. Only to result in a life sentence where the murderer gets fed for 40 yrs & gets 1000 letters from people who think he's innocent.
Take them OUT & never speak their name again.

bucolic_frolic

(43,188 posts)
11. Freedom is diminished, with or without additional security
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:27 AM
Nov 2022

and security is expensive. Bouncers are almost inadequate.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
14. When do we call out Fox News for instigating a genocide?
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 02:21 PM
Nov 2022

I seriously think they should be treated as an enemy of the state from this point going forward.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
16. Wisconsin Democrats had a drag queen host a fundraiser for my Congressman, Marc Pocan.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:58 PM
Nov 2022

I love Madison. We have the coolest people.







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