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speak easy

(8,323 posts)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:54 PM Nov 2022

Trump Will Beat DeSantis By A Wide Margin In 2024, New Poll Shows

Source: International Business Times

Former President Donald Trump will likely win against Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis by a wide margin in a hypothetical 2024 election for the Republican nomination, according to a new poll.

In a recent Emerson College poll, Trump received 55% support from Republican registered voters who participated in the survey. In comparison, only 25% said they favored DeSantis as the GOP's presidential nominee in a hypothetical 2024 election.

No other candidate for the Republican nomination reached double-digit support.

Trump and DeSantis were matched up against other potential Republican presidential candidates, including former Vice President Mike Pence, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan and Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney.

Read more: https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-will-beat-desantis-wide-margin-2024-new-poll-shows-3639256



The spin that Trump is washed up would seem to be a little premature. Trump is beating DeSantis 2:1. Add in Trumper fanaticism, and Trump has quite an effective lead at this stage of the contest before DeSantis declares.
Trump Will Beat DeSantis By A Wide Margin In 2024, New Poll Shows (Original Post) speak easy Nov 2022 OP
That's as if the election were held today. Lasher Nov 2022 #1
Like What? SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #8
Like him being in jail for one. KS Toronado Nov 2022 #21
He's Not Going To Jail SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #23
Sounds like RW talking points which I know you're not. KS Toronado Nov 2022 #24
Right Wing Talking Points SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #25
How many Grand Juries going after him? KS Toronado Nov 2022 #27
Merry Fiztmas! I gave up thinking redstateblues Nov 2022 #55
With any luck keroro gunsou Nov 2022 #58
They would still vote for him. Yavin4 Nov 2022 #45
Like Desantis actually running and campaigning madville Nov 2022 #37
We just saw in the election earlier this month how inaccurate the polls were. brush Nov 2022 #56
I don't think DeSantis is going to run, at least not in 2024. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #2
That's My Thinking SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #9
I don't see him running at 82 Polybius Nov 2022 #49
Polling is dead. intheflow Nov 2022 #3
Exactly....seems some never get that text. We just had an election 2 wks ago where the polls were PortTack Nov 2022 #16
So right True Blue American Nov 2022 #29
Yep Rebl2 Nov 2022 #46
IB Times? FSogol Nov 2022 #4
Ooh! A POLL!!! BELIEVE!!! dchill Nov 2022 #5
Work that poll... Blue Owl Nov 2022 #13
She's a poll worker, all right! dchill Nov 2022 #22
Don't trust the polls Lotusflower70 Nov 2022 #6
ehhh NJCher Nov 2022 #7
Exactly. NH Ethylene Nov 2022 #11
Curious that they say the poll is of "voters who participated in the survey." PSPS Nov 2022 #10
Maybe those who laughed hysterically and hung up the phone don't count? nt TigressDem Nov 2022 #18
that's funny after their colossal midterm fail, the pollsters are pushing their polls again TomDaisy Nov 2022 #12
and they aren't even embarrassed JohnSJ Nov 2022 #32
But it's not a cult! No no no! /s Grokenstein Nov 2022 #14
Listening to talk radio..trumpers realize desantis is ambitious ego driven Demovictory9 Nov 2022 #15
Good thing his arse will be in jail by then. nt TigressDem Nov 2022 #17
Most people don't have the faintest idea who DeSantis is but do recognize the name Trump. n/t patricia92243 Nov 2022 #19
Oh the polls...... they drive me crazy! Ziggysmom Nov 2022 #20
I Believe That Poll Completely SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #26
I know! When trying to convince friends to vote, I would often get the response Ziggysmom Nov 2022 #35
People don't want New Coke. They like Coke Classic. ZonkerHarris Nov 2022 #28
Gosh GenThePerservering Nov 2022 #30
and we are still quoting national polls after what happened in the midterms. JohnSJ Nov 2022 #31
Wheel of Misfortune. twodogsbarking Nov 2022 #33
Don't believe it. James48 Nov 2022 #34
Which is why I posted the Emerson poll. speak easy Nov 2022 #40
If Trump knows anything, it's how to alpha Republicans MatthewG. Nov 2022 #36
Before the midterms DeSantis was leading trump Katinfl Nov 2022 #38
They tested Liz Cheney? jvill Nov 2022 #39
ibtimes, what the heck is that? Ill tell you... Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2022 #41
Inaccurate headline. Polls don't say what "will" happen Temeret Nov 2022 #42
way too early llashram Nov 2022 #43
Of course the MAGAs will vote for DJT over DeSantis. However... JohnnyRingo Nov 2022 #44
Most Repukes are MAGAts. roamer65 Nov 2022 #47
Doesn't mean he can beat Biden Rocknation Nov 2022 #48
No. It is Biden's destiny to stare down the 'Leader' speak easy Nov 2022 #51
Tsk Tsk republianmushroom Nov 2022 #50
There's no point in acknowledging any validity of these poll numbers. Aristus Nov 2022 #52
Of course he will. Trump de Man! Martin68 Nov 2022 #53
In this poll, 44% favor TFG and 44% favor DeSantis Kaleva Nov 2022 #54
you see folk wear trump stuff not gop stuff dembotoz Nov 2022 #57

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
8. Like What?
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:29 AM
Nov 2022

MAGA voters are going to suddenly get Brains?

Well, TFG hasn't shot anybody on 5th Avenue yet, but that would probably increase his support anyways.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
25. Right Wing Talking Points
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:34 AM
Nov 2022

I'm FAR from the only DU member who has this exact sentiment. Nor am I FAR from the only Democrat who does. I know many who feel likewise.

Saying he's not going to be indicted nor go to jail are not right wing talking points. It's reality.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
55. Merry Fiztmas! I gave up thinking
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:24 PM
Nov 2022

that one of these crimes would be land him in jail. They talk big talk. Nobody does anything.

keroro gunsou

(2,216 posts)
58. With any luck
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 12:58 AM
Nov 2022

The way he avoids jail is by dropping dead. It’s a win win the way I see, he avoids jail and we can avoid him for good.

madville

(7,361 posts)
37. Like Desantis actually running and campaigning
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:21 AM
Nov 2022

Bernie Sanders was ahead of Joe Biden by double digits in some polls before Joe declared he was running.

brush

(51,245 posts)
56. We just saw in the election earlier this month how inaccurate the polls were.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 06:02 AM
Nov 2022

We should know from that that pollsters haven't improved on their predictive skills from three weeks ago.

Let's just wait and see. And trump is in so much legal jeopardy, he might be in jail by then...or at least home detention or some country club prison.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
9. That's My Thinking
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:31 AM
Nov 2022

He knows going up against TFG is a losing proposition, and could only result in damage.

He'll wait until 2028, although I suppose TFG could run again then too, but that seems less likely. And hopefully he'll be dead by then.

Polybius

(14,078 posts)
49. I don't see him running at 82
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:16 PM
Nov 2022

This will likely be his last run, unless he wins and somehow forms a dictatorship (highly unlikely).

PortTack

(31,361 posts)
16. Exactly....seems some never get that text. We just had an election 2 wks ago where the polls were
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:03 AM
Nov 2022

So far off….yet here we are

Rebl2

(12,394 posts)
46. Yep
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:45 AM
Nov 2022

Just like in this last election. Do pollsters realize people they call lie to them just to mess up their stupid polls?

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
6. Don't trust the polls
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:16 AM
Nov 2022

I think they are so unreliable now. So many of the models of information gathering are outdated.

NJCher

(34,480 posts)
7. ehhh
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:22 AM
Nov 2022

at this point it's all name recognition.

We at DU--and most of us do--realize that most Americans don't take politics very seriously. Nowhere near how we do.

Right before Nov. 8, NPR did some interviewing of citizens (independents, i think) about their candidate selection. Most of them barely knew who was running.

So yeah, even if polling was reliable, this is irrelevant for that reason.

PSPS

(13,280 posts)
10. Curious that they say the poll is of "voters who participated in the survey."
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:34 AM
Nov 2022

Isn't that what all polls are? How would one poll people who don't participate in the survey? Maybe it means that they aren't including those who would vote for neither in their mythical match-ups.

Grokenstein

(5,641 posts)
14. But it's not a cult! No no no! /s
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:26 AM
Nov 2022

To be fair, though, look at the others in the poll. Cheney? Hawley? Nikki? Teddy?? PENCE??

Demovictory9

(31,417 posts)
15. Listening to talk radio..trumpers realize desantis is ambitious ego driven
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:55 AM
Nov 2022

They love trump..desantis isnt as likeable

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
26. I Believe That Poll Completely
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:39 AM
Nov 2022

40% of all voters will vote for the repub, No Matter Who it is.

The fact President Biden supposedly has a 4% advantage at the moment, should scare the shit out of us. We are a complete failure as a nation.

Why we can't get those who believe in Democratic policies to vote is beyond me. Too many Americans just don't give a shit, and I don't know what can be done to change that.

Ziggysmom

(3,163 posts)
35. I know! When trying to convince friends to vote, I would often get the response
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:02 AM
Nov 2022

that you vote one ass in, vote another ass out and it doesn't matter.

That horrifies me! Such apathy. Later when those same folks complain I really tear into them. Especially women!

speak easy

(8,323 posts)
40. Which is why I posted the Emerson poll.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:41 AM
Nov 2022

The Quinnipac poll was cited as proof that Trump was washed up. Both are A- pollsters. The situation is uncertain.

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
36. If Trump knows anything, it's how to alpha Republicans
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:17 AM
Nov 2022

Trump’s a useless waste of a person, but he knows how to alpha other Republicans and play to his base’s most primitive instincts. I wouldn’t bet against him in the primary, barring him actually being convicted of something fairly serious.

Katinfl

(148 posts)
38. Before the midterms DeSantis was leading trump
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:21 AM
Nov 2022

In 2024 by a large margin. It will flip back and forth 100 times between now and then. Who cares?????

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,747 posts)
41. ibtimes, what the heck is that? Ill tell you...
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 09:27 AM
Nov 2022

IBT Media is an American global digital news organization with over 90 million monthly readers, owned by followers of religious leader David Jang. per google/wikipedia Who was polled, what were the questions, what was the methodology they used, how scientific, what is the bias of the pollster, whats the underlying message they want to convey (polls can be designed to "prove" just about anything)? Lets be a little more discerning pls!

 

Temeret

(80 posts)
42. Inaccurate headline. Polls don't say what "will" happen
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 09:35 AM
Nov 2022

They say what would happen during the dates the poll was conducted. In this case 2 years before the primaries.

JohnnyRingo

(18,275 posts)
44. Of course the MAGAs will vote for DJT over DeSantis. However...
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 10:24 AM
Nov 2022

...when put up in a general election I believe Trump is more polarizing and would do worse that DeSantis.

The average republican may vote overwhelmingly for DeSantis, but sit on their hands when it comes to another term by Trump versus a democrat. MAGAs will get over it and vote for the R no matter who it is.

speak easy

(8,323 posts)
51. No. It is Biden's destiny to stare down the 'Leader'
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:38 PM
Nov 2022

of American fascism twice, I am thinking. That is what he will be remembered for more than anything else - 'The Battle for the Soul of America.'

Aristus

(64,873 posts)
52. There's no point in acknowledging any validity of these poll numbers.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:32 PM
Nov 2022

I will say, however, that if DeSantis gets the nom in 2024, Trump will mount a third-party challenge. If Trump gets the nod, DeSantis won't go third-party.

Martin68

(22,177 posts)
53. Of course he will. Trump de Man!
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:13 PM
Nov 2022

But the nationwide picture is different. I doubt Trump has a snowball's chance in hell of being elected. Hopefully ongoing investigations will put him in prison put us out of danger.

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