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discocrisco01

(1,665 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:48 PM Nov 2022

Kyiv demands apology after PM Orbn wears scarf showing parts of Ukraine as Hungarian

Source: The Guardian

Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbán came under pressure to apologise after posting a video of himself at a football match wearing a scarf that depicted historical Hungary, including parts of Ukraine and neighbouring countries.

Ukraine’s foreign ministry spokesperson Oleg Nikolenko said on Tuesday Kyiv would summon Hungary’s ambassador “who will be informed of the unacceptability of Viktor Orbán’s act”.

“The promotion of revisionism ideas in Hungary does not contribute to the development of Ukrainian-Hungarian relations and does not comply with the principles of European policy,” Nikolenko wrote on Facebook. “We are waiting for an official apology from the Hungarian side and a refutation of the encroachments on the territorial integrity of Ukraine.”

Ukrainian media showed images of Orbán meeting a Hungarian footballer wearing a scarf which the outlet Ukrainska Pravda reported depicted a map of “Greater Hungary” including territory that is now part of the neighbouring states of Ukraine, Austria, Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Croatia and Serbia.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/23/hungary-pm-viktor-orban-scarf-showing-ukraine-territory-hungarian

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Kyiv demands apology after PM Orbn wears scarf showing parts of Ukraine as Hungarian (Original Post) discocrisco01 Nov 2022 OP
so now Hungary is going to start up? Srkdqltr Nov 2022 #1
Fighting over a scarf. The world is insane. jimfields33 Nov 2022 #4
The scarf is your big take away? Where do the Russians fit in? Stole a pie off a window sill? marble falls Nov 2022 #5
This was at a World Cup game. jimfields33 Nov 2022 #6
That scarf is about a lot more than a soccer match. People are dying where he makes his jest. marble falls Nov 2022 #8
Always trolling, Trump style IronLionZion Nov 2022 #2
The same Viktor Orbn who is a hero to the MAGAts and CPAC mother fuckers and role model to .... Botany Nov 2022 #3
Yup, that same guy blue-wave Nov 2022 #20
After the final dealth of the Austro-Hungarian Empire Warpy Nov 2022 #7
And if Scholz was wearing a scarf with Germany's 1937 borders? speak easy Nov 2022 #10
or these borders? DBoon Nov 2022 #11
Under wraps for the case of Germany v Poland match :) speak easy Nov 2022 #16
I kn ow, he'd be called an asshole by his own people Warpy Nov 2022 #14
Putin uses the same excuse for his invasion IronLionZion Nov 2022 #12
Putin is bonkers Warpy Nov 2022 #13
didn't spain used to own florida...should they take it back? Not sure i would mind that dembotoz Nov 2022 #18
how to piss off your neighbor republianmushroom Nov 2022 #9
Orbn is a right ring nut Temeret Nov 2022 #15
Hungary is a member of NATO and EndlessWire Nov 2022 #17
Orban is nothing but blue-wave Nov 2022 #19

Botany

(70,422 posts)
3. The same Viktor Orbn who is a hero to the MAGAts and CPAC mother fuckers and role model to ....
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:09 PM
Nov 2022

... neo Nazis such as Sebastian Gorky? This should be no surprise to those Christo Fascisti who
want to take control of America because they like that shit.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
7. After the final dealth of the Austro-Hungarian Empire
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:19 PM
Nov 2022

quite a bit of Hungarian territory went to Ukraine, as well as other surrounding countries. That's an historical fact, as well as there is a sizable Hungarian minority in Ukraine. There are also Ukrainians in Hungary. Borders are often very messy things.

Most European wars have been fought because one country or another decided to include their border population within an expanded border. It's one reason European history is so bloody, those ancient tribes just would not settle within sane borders.

The problem these days is that another world wide war starting in Europe wouldn't be merely bloody, it would be suicide. Orban's scarf might have been historically correct, but he'd be a massive fool to try to press the point. He'd have to wait for Uncle Vlad to conquer Ukraine and give him "his" territory back--just before the tanks rolled into Budapest, some more recent history he needs to be aware of.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
14. I kn ow, he'd be called an asshole by his own people
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:16 PM
Nov 2022

who realize just how much that empire cost the country as well as the rest of the world.

That's the problem with land wars in Europe. They spread.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
12. Putin uses the same excuse for his invasion
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:36 PM
Nov 2022

claiming he wants to protect Russians living in Ukraine by killing many of them.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
13. Putin is bonkers
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:13 PM
Nov 2022

He started believing his own bullshit a long time ago, fatal for any autocrat and it tends to happen to all of them, even the ones who start out as great reformers.

He's simply denied the fact that Ukrainians are a distinct culture. They're going to get a lot more distinct once this mess is over.

Orban's scarf signals that he likely wants "his" share of the country after Russia conquers it all (ha). Good. Let him fight Putin over the spoils neither is likely to see.

dembotoz

(16,783 posts)
18. didn't spain used to own florida...should they take it back? Not sure i would mind that
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:20 PM
Nov 2022

in all honesty.

EndlessWire

(6,441 posts)
17. Hungary is a member of NATO and
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 06:32 PM
Nov 2022

the EU.

It's hard to imagine what Orban was thinking when he pick that scarf. Not appropriate. They owe apologies and explanations to Ukraine. I wonder if they are prepared to uphold their duties at NATO and/or EU. Questionable, but not enough data.

blue-wave

(4,339 posts)
19. Orban is nothing but
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 09:57 PM
Nov 2022

A shit stain on the human race. Him, Pooty and that goof from Belarus all need to burn in hell.

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