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speak easy

(9,193 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 12:29 AM Nov 2022

Moscow Will Continue Bombing Ukraine - Russian UN Envoy

Source: The Kiev Post

Vasily Nebenzya, Russian Permanent Representative to the United Nations, has said that Russia aims to impair Ukraine’s military potential in order to force it to negotiate on what he describes as more realistic terms.

Speaking at the latest UN Security Council meeting on Wednesday, Nov. 22, 2022, summoned due to Russia’s massive strikes of Ukraine’s infrastructure including critical energy facilities, he openly admitted why Russia is bombing Ukraine.

“One of the goals of the special military operation is to undermine the Ukrainian army’s combat capabilities. And it will be attained by military means until the Kyiv regime takes a realistic position, which will make it possible to discuss and try to settle those problems, which have prompted us to launch the special military operation,” he said.

Claiming that Western military aid is flooding the country, and describing the calls for Kyiv to defeat Russia as reckless, Nebenzya emphasized that Russian forces are deliberately bombing Ukraine’s infrastructure facilities.

Read more: https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/russia-will-continue-bombing-ukraine-russian-un-envoy.html




Vasily's a Soviet out of central casting.
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Moscow Will Continue Bombing Ukraine - Russian UN Envoy (Original Post) speak easy Nov 2022 OP
Damn you, fukkers! electric_blue68 Nov 2022 #1
more brazen than even hitler nt msongs Nov 2022 #2
Yes..for now. Russia is running seriously low on munitions..they talk a big game. PortTack Nov 2022 #3
I've been hearing that but it doesnt appear to be true. oldsoftie Nov 2022 #16
They seem to have plenty of munitions, and they'll get plenty more from Iran. Lonestarblue Nov 2022 #27
I have believed this as well. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2022 #35
The new Russia leaders sounds a lot BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #4
But I get criticized every time I call them "commies" oldsoftie Nov 2022 #17
Why haven't they been expelled from the security council? Tomconroy Nov 2022 #5
Seriously! PortTack Nov 2022 #6
Russia and China have veto power over any UN actions. former9thward Nov 2022 #36
Yes PatSeg Nov 2022 #20
Why should the Ukraine bow down to Russia when Russia was the one that started the war? cstanleytech Nov 2022 #7
Why hasn't Ukraine bombed Russia? Lasher Nov 2022 #8
The theory is not to excite the ruZZian populace to "defend the motherland". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #10
An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind. I don't want Russian children murdered either. Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #12
They've launched missiles into Russian territory IronLionZion Nov 2022 #15
Yes, but...the Ukes need to reply by hitting all Russkie power stations deep into N, NE, SE Russia. machoneman Nov 2022 #21
Gazprom was hit this week inside Russia by saboteurs NickB79 Nov 2022 #32
When ruZZia is pushed out of Ukraine including Crimea, then any attack on Ukr Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #9
With what they've spent on this war they could have bought 1/5 the country bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #11
Land. Always, land. Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #13
Lots of oil & gas reserves among other things. Right in the area they are. oldsoftie Nov 2022 #18
A LOT of natural gas in the south east. Justice matters. Nov 2022 #29
Mr. Vasily Nebenzya better be careful because talk like that will not sit well with our Ukrainian... Botany Nov 2022 #14
Haley was the UN Ambassador; it doesnt surprise me to see her interacting with Ru's oldsoftie Nov 2022 #19
I know it was a cheap shot Botany Nov 2022 #22
I don't know if it was that cheap SouthernDem4ever Nov 2022 #38
Haley's eyes look positively evil dlk Nov 2022 #25
Ukrainians need to take off their gloves and take war to the Russians. Chainfire Nov 2022 #23
Ukraine should take the war to them Mosby Nov 2022 #24
My heart breaks Grimelle Nov 2022 #26
We don't negotiate with terrorists. Justice matters. Nov 2022 #28
Moscow desperately needs a couple dozen well-aimed cruise missiles dalton99a Nov 2022 #30
This guy should be told anamnua Nov 2022 #31
The beatings will continue until Quanto Magnus Nov 2022 #33
How long must NATO stand by while Russia murders the civilian population of Ukraine? Martin68 Nov 2022 #34
When will the bombing be inside russia? SouthernDem4ever Nov 2022 #37

PortTack

(32,716 posts)
3. Yes..for now. Russia is running seriously low on munitions..they talk a big game.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 01:08 AM
Nov 2022

We all know how it ended for Hitler. They can’t bomb the Ukrainian ppl into submission. It’s been tried in other wars and proven to be ineffective.

Gawd these ppl are brazen, you attack a sovereign nation and want them to come to the negotiating table with what you call a more reasonable settlement. F..k u!

oldsoftie

(12,505 posts)
16. I've been hearing that but it doesnt appear to be true.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:27 AM
Nov 2022

They're sending hundreds of rocket/missiles every day.
Maybe they ARE & they're just trying to make as big an impact as possible before running out?

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
27. They seem to have plenty of munitions, and they'll get plenty more from Iran.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 11:12 AM
Nov 2022

I have believed from the beginning that nothing will stop Putin except force greater than his. That force is NATO aiding Ukraine. Once Iran is resupplying Russia, they will just keep bombing every hospital, school, power plant, apartment building, etc., until most of Ukraine’s cities are rubble and millions have died of injuries or lack of heat. I just do not see how NATO leaders can allow this to happen when their more sophisticated air support and missile defense systems would better protect Ukraine.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
35. I have believed this as well.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 04:36 PM
Nov 2022

And I also do not believe that Putin is "running out of missiles" anytime soon. He is restocking with supplies from Iran, and building new missiles. The software circuits that the west is sanctioning, that they need for production, are easily replaced by Iranian chips, and other countries supplies that either trade to them openly or covertly.

Its wishful thinking that does no good. Other than to cover NATOs lazy ass.

No one has of yet explained to me how a NATO contribution of air defense on the scale of what it would be if say.....France or Germany was invaded, would create some kind of doomsday escalation of the war. Escalated by who?.....Belarus?. Who in the world, of any significance, would be so enraged by NATO properly helping Ukraine defend itself, that they would send their own troops for Putin to use as more cannon fodder in his hopeless war that he cannot ever win?

I don't get it. Other than NATO countries still are under the belief that any gain of a free Ukraine anytime soon, would not be worth the monetary and military contribution to achieve it in a quicker scaled up way. Which I think is a huge mistake, and will only cost them more later on.

BigmanPigman

(51,572 posts)
4. The new Russia leaders sounds a lot
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 02:31 AM
Nov 2022

like the old Soviets. Same everything just a different year. Soon some dude will be wheeled out in a wheelchair by another bald dude with an eye-patch. Maybe too much Dr Strangelove for me.

oldsoftie

(12,505 posts)
17. But I get criticized every time I call them "commies"
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:28 AM
Nov 2022

Well, you can change the name but if you still ACT the same......

former9thward

(31,949 posts)
36. Russia and China have veto power over any UN actions.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 05:30 PM
Nov 2022

Both would veto any move to expel Russia from the Security Council.

PatSeg

(47,291 posts)
20. Yes
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:38 AM
Nov 2022

There is something really creepy about a man dressed in a suit at the UN matter-of-factly discussing bombing another country, as if he was talking about trade deals. Meanwhile, everyone knows the horrors and atrocities that are happening. You'd think they were playing a game of chess.

Lasher

(27,542 posts)
8. Why hasn't Ukraine bombed Russia?
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 06:57 AM
Nov 2022

This might be a little rhetorical, but Russia is bombing Ukraine. Isn't a little tit for tat called for?

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
15. They've launched missiles into Russian territory
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:51 AM
Nov 2022

1. they don't have as many missiles or bomber aircraft and
2. they don't want to kill a lot of civilians the way Russia has been doing.

machoneman

(4,003 posts)
21. Yes, but...the Ukes need to reply by hitting all Russkie power stations deep into N, NE, SE Russia.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:40 AM
Nov 2022

Payment in kind. Millions more Russkies now in winter w/o power may turn the populace and military leaders to stop this insane war.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,967 posts)
9. When ruZZia is pushed out of Ukraine including Crimea, then any attack on Ukr
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 07:25 AM
Nov 2022

At that point, any attack on Ukraine, missiles or artillery, should be met with a strike at the originating point however deep in ruZZia.

Maybe.

If ruZZia (Putin's slave) doesn't get the point one way they need to get it another. But I'm not a geopolitical expert, nor can I predict how Putin's slaves would react.

bucolic_frolic

(43,070 posts)
11. With what they've spent on this war they could have bought 1/5 the country
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 07:31 AM
Nov 2022

Must be some valuable valuables in UKR to go through all this trouble

Botany

(70,451 posts)
14. Mr. Vasily Nebenzya better be careful because talk like that will not sit well with our Ukrainian...
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:17 AM
Nov 2022

... allies and he is admitting to war crimes too. "Nebenzya emphasized that Russian forces are deliberately bombing Ukraine’s infrastructure facilities." This is no different from the Russian attacks on train stations, hospitals, schools, and homes and in the
end it will just strengthen the Ukrainian's fight to kill or throw out every Russian invader including in the Crimea.


I would not blame the Ukrainians if they blew up the Kremlin. They did nothing wrong except fighting for
their own country, lands, families, and kicking Russia's army ass so badly that all Putin can is launch drones,
aircraft, and missiles from their own territory.

Why do Republicans get along so well with Russian criminals?

Vasily Nebenzya & Nikki Haley.


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oldsoftie

(12,505 posts)
19. Haley was the UN Ambassador; it doesnt surprise me to see her interacting with Ru's
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:32 AM
Nov 2022

thats what they DO in the UN; act "friendly". But thats all it is; an act

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
38. I don't know if it was that cheap
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 11:29 AM
Nov 2022

Haley is an unabashed opportunist. If next week it would help her get further in politics, she'll shake his hands twice.

Chainfire

(17,474 posts)
23. Ukrainians need to take off their gloves and take war to the Russians.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 10:18 AM
Nov 2022

Russian us using terror as their main weapon because they can not make progress by conventional means of making war. They need a dose of their own medicine.

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