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groundloop

(11,518 posts)
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:23 AM Dec 2022

Florida pulls $2 bln from BlackRock in largest anti-ESG divestment

Source: Reuters

Florida's Chief Financial Officer said on Thursday his department would pull $2 billion worth of its assets managed by BlackRock Inc (BLK.N), the biggest such divestment by a state opposed to the asset manager's environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG) policies.

While the move will hardly dent BlackRock's $8 trillion in assets, it underscores how the backlash among many Republican politicians, such as those in Florida, against ESG investing, which they see as promoting a "woke agenda" is gathering steam.

Republicans are set to assume control of the House of Representatives in January. This will allow them to hold hearings on ESG and grill the chief executives of BlackRock and other major assets managers about their ESG policies, and also pressure regulators to scrutinize them.

In a statement, Florida CFO Jimmy Patronis said the state's Treasury, which he oversees, would remove BlackRock as manager of about $600 million of short-term investments and have its custodian freeze $1.43 billion of long-term securities now with BlackRock, with an eye on reallocating the money to other money managers by the start of 2023.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/florida-pulls-2-bln-blackrock-largest-anti-esg-divestment-2022-12-01/

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Florida pulls $2 bln from BlackRock in largest anti-ESG divestment (Original Post) groundloop Dec 2022 OP
Isn't that exactly Old Crank Dec 2022 #1
ESG is the free market in action. But Republicons are all about government intrusion Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #2
Cutting off their noses Marthe48 Dec 2022 #3
This is the opposite of "smart money" BootinUp Dec 2022 #4
Florida will instead invest in row boats and buggy whips! Mawspam2 Dec 2022 #5
ha ha... and black smithing franchises BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #21
DeSantis is polishing up his bona fides in preparation for the 4th Reich. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #6
Interesting that Black Rock was invested in FTX womanofthehills Dec 2022 #7
Interesting. Where should Florida invest instead? bronxiteforever Dec 2022 #9
Didnt the 1.7 trillion "loss" come from a drop in the market? oldsoftie Dec 2022 #12
WTF? sybylla Dec 2022 #20
Supposedly, ETH is now green - at least that what the internet says womanofthehills Dec 2022 #23
god forbid that we try and keep the air breathable SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #26
I thought they hated cancel culture. Mr. Sparkle Dec 2022 #8
Florida citizens whose pension funds are probably a large part of this money should do some Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #10
+1 SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #27
Golly! Maybe they'll give it to Jared to manage? keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #11
Employees should have a say where their money is invested. oldsoftie Dec 2022 #13
According to who? Igel Dec 2022 #22
How does Blackrock become a ESG fund when its among the top holders of Chevon,Exxon Mobil and Conoco womanofthehills Dec 2022 #24
I don't know who does the scoring or HOW these things are scored. oldsoftie Dec 2022 #25
This type of move will be followed by a major loss of funds in a couple of years. keopeli Dec 2022 #14
I Invested in this Deep State Witch Dec 2022 #15
Really Foolish ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #16
I believe DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #17
Florida will probably use the money to cover insurance premiums due to climate change. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2022 #18
FL Retirement System discocrisco01 Dec 2022 #19

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,993 posts)
2. ESG is the free market in action. But Republicons are all about government intrusion
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:33 AM
Dec 2022

They swear up and down that they are all for small government and freedom from the government, but the only small government they endorse avoids taxpaid healing.

Their actions are anti-freedom. Only Republicon states have Election Police Forces. Now, with the ESG. And foremost, intrusion into women's bodies.

ESG (Environment, Social, corporate Governance) is the free market. If a majority of the investing public (I think so) through pension plans and reinsurance and index funds and mutual funds wants "woke" ESG, the free market can and does provide it.

Butt out, Big Brother Republicons.

Marthe48

(16,935 posts)
3. Cutting off their noses
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:34 AM
Dec 2022

I'd bet that a company like Blackrock would be better at handling OPM than any sleazy r.

Mawspam2

(727 posts)
5. Florida will instead invest in row boats and buggy whips!
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:36 AM
Dec 2022

That'll show those 'woke' retirees just how much we care about them.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
7. Interesting that Black Rock was invested in FTX
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:42 AM
Dec 2022

BlackRock Lost $24M In FTX Collapse plus I.7 trillion in six months


BlackRock‘s CEO Larry Fink revealed that the asset manager had invested $24 million in FTX, which it considers lost.

Fink added that the investment was small and not part of Blackrock’s core business. Fink confirmed the loss on Nov. 30 during an interview with New York Times columnist. https://asiatokenfund.com/altcoins/blackrock-lost-24m-in-ftx-collapse/


BlackRock Inc. is used to breaking records. The world’s largest asset manager was the first firm to break through $10 trillion of assets under management. But the bigger they are the harder they fall. And this year BlackRock chalked up another record: the largest amount of money lost by a single firm over a six-month period. In the first half of this year, it lost $1.7 trillion of clients’ money.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-07-20/how-blackrock-lost-1-7-trillion-in-six-months

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
9. Interesting. Where should Florida invest instead?
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 12:09 PM
Dec 2022

You seem to be up on these things. What is your take on this type of investment.

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
12. Didnt the 1.7 trillion "loss" come from a drop in the market?
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 01:38 PM
Dec 2022

And if thats the case, its only a loss if the owners sold at the bottom.
I "lost" a ton of money before June. Then I "gained" most of it back. Because I stayed invested.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
10. Florida citizens whose pension funds are probably a large part of this money should do some
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 01:21 PM
Dec 2022

quick research on how Republicans in Kentucky switched pension investments to Republican schemers and lost many millions of dollars. The former Republican governor lost his re-election because he tried to severely cut public employees’ pensions to make up for the loss. That backfired as the state’s teachers, many of them already retired and depending on their pensions, staged large protests.

The upshot is that Republican politicians aren’t competent at much of anything and should never be allowed to make decisions about anything important.

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
13. Employees should have a say where their money is invested.
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 01:41 PM
Dec 2022

If you DONT want exposure to "ESG" type funds, then pick a different investment for your share of investment money. But the State part of their retirement should be invested in the best interest of the employees. According to who? Well, that I don't know

Igel

(35,300 posts)
22. According to who?
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 10:16 PM
Dec 2022

According to the law, to secure the maximum benefit, construed for decades as financial.

You're going to retire, you want money to buy food and pay for housing. Maybe help the offspring if you have any.

Increasingly, it's construed as "to support ESG--what matters is not just paying for food and housing and pursuing sound environmental, social, and governmental policies." That allows part of retirement-space to include, "I cannot afford food, but at least I know I supported sound governmental policies." Perhaps not a large part of r-space, but it's certainly non-zero.

I find that the folk monitoring my investment do that, I'm pulling my funds. It's a free market. I worry for my kid and his possible offspring, but at the same time I don't feel like living under an underpass for social and governmental policies. I'm both part of society and one of government's bosses.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
24. How does Blackrock become a ESG fund when its among the top holders of Chevon,Exxon Mobil and Conoco
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 02:06 AM
Dec 2022

Just asking?

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
25. I don't know who does the scoring or HOW these things are scored.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 07:38 AM
Dec 2022

More likely just FL trying to do something for looks. Just like bussing migrants to wherever. Does NOTHING to alleviate the problem, but gives Ron the optics of sticking it to the "NE libs"
Wonder where did they move that money to AFTER leaving Blackrock

keopeli

(3,510 posts)
14. This type of move will be followed by a major loss of funds in a couple of years.
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 01:43 PM
Dec 2022

The new manager will be a smaller business, exclusively repuglican, and likely corrupt. Some people will make a boatload of money from the taxpayers in FL. The taxpayers will end up losing their shirts.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
16. Really Foolish
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 01:55 PM
Dec 2022

If Blackrock thought ESG principles weren't a good long term aspect to investment they wouldn't do it.
This isn't about being "woke". It's about maximizing return on investment.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
17. I believe
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 02:01 PM
Dec 2022

Colorado's PERA,(Public Employee Retirement Fund) is a disaster and grossly underfunded. And has been for years and years, and only getting worse. Politicians in Colorado keep playing kick the can down the road, not necessarily doing anything about it,...If true, WHY

I would love it, if someone out there knows about this, could comment and explain about PERA and how, if true, how it got this way?

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