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brooklynite

(94,552 posts)
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 04:41 PM Dec 2022

Senate rejects proposal to give rail workers seven days of paid sick leave

Source: The Hill

The Senate voted on Thursday to reject a proposal to give railway workers seven days of sick leave, a benefit that was left out of a labor deal brokered by the presidential emergency board between freight rail companies and unionized workers.

The proposal to give workers seven days of sick leave, which was championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and other liberal Democrats, failed to pick up enough Republican support to overcome a 60-vote threshold set for adopting the measure.

It passed the House Wednesday with a narrow bipartisan majority, 221 to 207 with only three Republicans voting for it.

The votes in the Senate and House now give Democrats the ability to blame Republicans for imposing a labor deal on rail workers that includes little flexibility for taking time off work due to illness or doctors’ visits.



Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3758436-senate-rejects-proposal-to-give-rail-workers-seven-days-of-paid-sick-leave/
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Senate rejects proposal to give rail workers seven days of paid sick leave (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2022 OP
Get rid of privately funded ELECTIONS & Lobbyist Gifts !! They are killing us ! n/t TeamProg Dec 2022 #1
Get rid of Republicans. tirebiter Dec 2022 #2
Yeah i agree with your and get rid .... via French Revolution !!! Trueblue1968 Dec 2022 #3
Like so? KS Toronado Dec 2022 #8
It's the only way to be sure with republicons FoxNewsSucks Dec 2022 #11
YES Toronado.... you are 100000000000000000000% correct. Trueblue1968 Dec 2022 #15
The French had a damn good solution to greed Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #37
I am sure Rebl2 Dec 2022 #5
You the average worker aren't as valuable as those in control Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #38
My first thought too - get rid of paid sick leave for the Senate SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #42
So true Rebl2 Dec 2022 #46
So the repukes want a strike grumpyduck Dec 2022 #4
+1 peppertree Dec 2022 #9
EXACTLY GD DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #14
I keep reminding anyone who voted repuglican about this SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #43
I have found DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #53
Its the original deal brokered by President Biden a couple months ago MichMan Dec 2022 #6
Shocker Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #7
Solidarity with the rail workers! EarthFirst Dec 2022 #10
+1... myohmy2 Dec 2022 #19
Former IASTE member here. I will always stand with the workers! Nt Javaman Dec 2022 #30
You mean IATSE? tirebiter Dec 2022 #51
Lol yes typed too fast Javaman Dec 2022 #52
I know a whole bunch of railroaders. MontanaMama Dec 2022 #12
Are they? Well, good then. Serves them right for voting for that shithole party LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #17
Same thing in the Trades World DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #21
The whole industry has thrown in with the extraction industry. They don't seem to understand that LT Barclay Dec 2022 #26
JHC. Seven lousy days is enough to scuttle a decent contract and risk a strike? Wake up RR boss. nt Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #13
The President needs to step up on this The Mouth Dec 2022 #16
I don't get why they are pressuring the RR bosses? LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #18
It was President Biden's proposal that was passed MichMan Dec 2022 #31
The workers need to strike if they don't get paid sick time The Mouth Dec 2022 #48
Ted Cruz wrote some non-sensical twitter thread about why this is Biden's fault and why he voted LymphocyteLover Dec 2022 #20
I am a state government employee. I have 90 days of sick time banked Tarc Dec 2022 #22
Popeye gets it... LT Barclay Dec 2022 #23
It is a dark day quakerboy Dec 2022 #24
It won't cost us in 2024. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #25
Americans memory is not the issue at hand quakerboy Dec 2022 #36
NO. It was the republicans in the Senate that refused the sick leave to the bill, not the JohnSJ Dec 2022 #33
Results matter quakerboy Dec 2022 #35
I knew it. Shit!!! BigmanPigman Dec 2022 #27
If Biden signs it, it's on him. forthemiddle Dec 2022 #29
The media is owned by large corps and wealthy individuals and Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #39
Manchin... *shakes head* LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #28
Notice Manchin has sick leave Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #40
Jackass smb Dec 2022 #44
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 #50
The headline should read it was the republicans in the Senate why sick leave was rejected, because JohnSJ Dec 2022 #32
Exactly. It was Republicans, not "the Senate..." SunSeeker Dec 2022 #34
RR workers get days off Deminpenn Dec 2022 #41
No paid sick leave, no deal. Magoo48 Dec 2022 #45
AMEN The Mouth Dec 2022 #49
i wonder how many rail workers vote republican samsingh Dec 2022 #47

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
11. It's the only way to be sure with republicons
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:25 PM
Dec 2022

they're too intermingled with normal people to just nuke them from orbit.

Rebl2

(13,506 posts)
5. I am sure
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:06 PM
Dec 2022

Senators and congressmen and women get paid sick days. Don’t know how many. Maybe it’s time to get rid of their paid sick leave.

Stargazer99

(2,585 posts)
38. You the average worker aren't as valuable as those in control
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:26 AM
Dec 2022

Don't you know you are lower class humans. Your life is not as important as someone with wealth. so much for the morality of this nation

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
42. My first thought too - get rid of paid sick leave for the Senate
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 08:29 AM
Dec 2022

But that won't happen while the foxes are in the henhouse.

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
9. +1
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:15 PM
Dec 2022

Repugs have a long history with this fifth-column garbage.

It's Nixon's 'make the economy scream' tactic - but imported onto U.S. shores.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
14. EXACTLY GD
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:54 PM
Dec 2022

and we better get used to this happening over and over again when the Repubs take over majority in the HOUSE.
Also the SENATE, due to our two DINO's that vote constantly with the Republicans.

The Republicans are out for revenge for us delaying them from their installation of a CORPORATE FASCIST TYRANNY in the 2020 election......

Katie Bar The Door............

The Repubs are guerrilla warriors, ........... we aren't even decent street fighters.......

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
43. I keep reminding anyone who voted repuglican about this
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 08:30 AM
Dec 2022

They voted for people that want to further the economic pain for the majority of people.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
53. I have found
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 02:30 PM
Dec 2022

that TrumpHumpers, with out exception, are totally oblivious.... They have no clue that everything the Republican's accomplish is aimed at destroying THEM, not just the liberals.......

I have never seen a group/cult as clueless as their followers/voters......It is totally Un-fathomable to any one with a brain or even a speck of common sense....

MichMan

(11,924 posts)
6. Its the original deal brokered by President Biden a couple months ago
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:09 PM
Dec 2022

Most of the rail unions already voted in favor back then other than a few holdouts.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. Shocker
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:12 PM
Dec 2022

Six Republicans voted for the sick leave measure: Sens. Mike Braun (Ind.), Ted Cruz (Texas), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Josh Hawley (Mo.), John Kennedy (La.) and Marco Rubio (Fla.).

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
12. I know a whole bunch of railroaders.
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:28 PM
Dec 2022

Most of them are vocal repukes. You get what you get and don't throw a fit.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
21. Same thing in the Trades World
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:02 PM
Dec 2022

They are so politically ignorant that they don't even know these Quasi-Republicans are out to screw everyone, including them....

LT Barclay

(2,599 posts)
26. The whole industry has thrown in with the extraction industry. They don't seem to understand that
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:33 PM
Dec 2022

railroads are a much more fuel efficient that trucks and their fixed location makes them ideal for electrification.

https://www.alternet.org/2009/01/lets_get_get_those_freight_trucks_off_the_road_and_put_america_back_on_tracks/

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
16. The President needs to step up on this
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:56 PM
Dec 2022

Shame on EVERYONE who supports this bullshit.

Sick days for the railroad workers or shut the whole damned country down.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
48. The workers need to strike if they don't get paid sick time
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 01:25 PM
Dec 2022

And the President needs to support them. 100%. Threaten to nationalize any RR that doesn't grant sick leave, and throw the executives in jail.

Fuck anyone who thinks that a *single worker* anywhere in the U.S.A. shouldn't have as much paid sick time as they need to stay healthy, may they know nothing but illness and injury for them and their family.

I hope the workers throw a wrench in it; close *everything* down until the newest person gets 30 days.

ONE worker is more important than all the asshole railroad executives, stock holders, and any POS politician that doesn't support the workers.

LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
20. Ted Cruz wrote some non-sensical twitter thread about why this is Biden's fault and why he voted
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:02 PM
Dec 2022

against the bill.




blah blah blah



Tarc

(10,476 posts)
22. I am a state government employee. I have 90 days of sick time banked
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:04 PM
Dec 2022

I think we earn like 15 days a year, just can't go over 90.

Raid workers work long hours, it can be dangerous and thankless work. I don't think my sick time should dwarf theirs, this is ridiculous.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
24. It is a dark day
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:26 PM
Dec 2022

The democratic senate and democratic house have joined forces to dump on a union. Presumably the democratic president will sign on next.

This will cost us in the next election and beyond. Unions are the main counterweight to the kochs and adelsons and such. And our party just proved we don't have their backs when the going looks a little rocky.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
36. Americans memory is not the issue at hand
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 02:42 AM
Dec 2022

The issue at hand are the memory and enthusiasm of the leaders and activists of the unions who do a significant portion of the heavy lifting during election seasons

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
33. NO. It was the republicans in the Senate that refused the sick leave to the bill, not the
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 12:02 AM
Dec 2022

DEMOCRATS, and trying to phrase this as being because of the Democratic Senate is entirely misleading

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
35. Results matter
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 02:40 AM
Dec 2022

And who chose to pass it as two separate bills, allowing this to be the nearly inevitable conclusion?

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
27. I knew it. Shit!!!
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:37 PM
Dec 2022

No sick pay my ass! Strike! Media should blame the GQP but it won't. People will blame the Dems even though we do not have the 60 votes as usual. The media could help the country but it sides with the GQP and their big $$$ bosses to make happy every damn time no matter who is in the White House.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
29. If Biden signs it, it's on him.
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 08:51 PM
Dec 2022

People don’t remember bills that are proposed, but don’t pass, they only remember the final bill that the President signs.

Stargazer99

(2,585 posts)
39. The media is owned by large corps and wealthy individuals and
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:34 AM
Dec 2022

you think they are going to be shooting themselves in the foot by presenting the truth. Privatizing essential services sure works for those in power

LudwigPastorius

(9,140 posts)
28. Manchin... *shakes head*
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 07:45 PM
Dec 2022

He was the only Democrat to vote against the 7 days of paid sick leave amendment.

I mean, motherfucking Ted Cruz voted for it, Rubio, Hawley,...

C'mon Georgia, please give us Senator Warnock.

Stargazer99

(2,585 posts)
40. Notice Manchin has sick leave
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:39 AM
Dec 2022

too bad we can't pull his sick leave that the TAXPAYER pays for. Labor is a second class citizen and we the common man put up with it! What is the matter with us when all other well to do nations have health care

smb

(3,471 posts)
44. Jackass
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 09:32 AM
Dec 2022

The ONLY effect of his "no" vote was to obfuscate the GQP's responsibility for denying a perfectly reasonable provision.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
50. Yep
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 03:14 PM
Dec 2022

The bill, which gives rail workers seven paid sick days, passed the House but was defeated by a vote of 52-43 in the Senate, as Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., joined Republican members in rejecting the measure. A handful of Republican members, including Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Marco Rubio, R-Fla, voted in favor of the bill.

Rail unions slam Senate's 'anti-American' rejection of sick days

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
32. The headline should read it was the republicans in the Senate why sick leave was rejected, because
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 11:57 PM
Dec 2022

the Democrats effectively had no problem including it in the bill, it was the republicans

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
41. RR workers get days off
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 08:01 AM
Dec 2022

It's not like they're asked to work 24/7. They also get paid vacation time and the same number of holidays off as federal civil servants. They also call out when they're sick.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
49. AMEN
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 01:28 PM
Dec 2022

ALL the freight on every car isn't as important as the health and prosperity of any ONE Union worker. Fuck the Railroad executives, fuck the stockholders.

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