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groundloop

(11,514 posts)
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 06:51 PM Dec 2022

Edward Snowden swears allegiance to Russia and receives passport, lawyer says

Source: Washington Post

Edward Snowden, a former National Security Agency contractor who leaked information about U.S. surveillance programs, swore an oath of allegiance to Russia and has collected his Russian passport, his lawyer told state media on Friday.

“Edward received a Russian passport yesterday and took the oath in accordance with the law,” lawyer Anatoly Kucherena said, according to Russia’s Interfax news agency. “He is, of course, happy, thanking the Russian Federation for the fact that he received citizenship,” he continued. “And most importantly, under the Constitution of Russia, he can no longer be extradited to a foreign state.”

Snowden, 39, is wanted by Washington on espionage charges. He argues that his actions were in the interests of the United States. In any case, his revelations exposed the breadth of U.S. digital spying programs and altered the public’s understanding of technology, privacy and digital security.

It’s unclear whether Snowden swore the oath of allegiance at the same time as he was granted a passport, but the two are common procedures when foreigners become Russian citizens. The text includes swearing “to protect the freedom and independence of the Russian Federation, to be loyal to Russia, to respect its culture, history and traditions,” and to promise to “perform the duties of a citizen of the Russian Federation for the good of the state and society.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/12/02/edward-snowden-russian-citizenship/?utm_campaign=wp_the_5_minute_fix&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_fix&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F38789a8%2F638a6ebe9d88976ba348c892%2F62101276ade4e27e805c796a%2F38%2F51%2F638a6ebe9d88976ba348c892&wp_cu=5d2d531c09ee47b25be9cf659633b3d5%7CD8529A03CA9C7F78E0530100007FC8E3

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Edward Snowden swears allegiance to Russia and receives passport, lawyer says (Original Post) groundloop Dec 2022 OP
hope he gets conscripted . AllaN01Bear Dec 2022 #1
...on his way to.. thomski64 Dec 2022 #5
Unfortunately... nycbos Dec 2022 #9
What better propaganda than to have Snowden, born in the USA, now a Russian, fight for his Escurumbele Dec 2022 #32
His lawyer claims he wont be conscripted. From WAPO: emulatorloo Dec 2022 #14
Hah! You know, Russian words are so trustworthy! Pobeka Dec 2022 #15
My thoughts exactly on the propaganda piece! emulatorloo Dec 2022 #20
"Welcome to Russia. Here are your boots and gun..." forgotmylogin Dec 2022 #37
Hmm? wendyb-NC Dec 2022 #2
No 'digital spying programs' in Russia. Nyet. speak easy Dec 2022 #3
The man has a nose for freedom BeyondGeography Dec 2022 #4
Oh! Brava. So much better that I could have .. stopdiggin Dec 2022 #33
Actions in the interests of the United States? Hah! LiberalFighter Dec 2022 #6
Honestly I never had moniss Dec 2022 #7
So much for the "patriotic whistle blower" cover. I bet he got a job with FSB, six -eight years ago. marble falls Dec 2022 #8
Ew. ExtremelyWokeMatt Dec 2022 #10
So now he can be sent to Ukraine and Russia will the done with him. Kablooie Dec 2022 #11
Justice would be he surrenders to the Ukrainians, and he's sent back to the U.S. Kennah Dec 2022 #13
Wonder where his supporters went? paleotn Dec 2022 #12
Pretty sure his supporters would know better by now BWdem4life Dec 2022 #24
Not bullying. More like "We told you so". paleotn Dec 2022 #29
Can snowden show trump the process? Marthe48 Dec 2022 #16
Fucking traitor. roamer65 Dec 2022 #17
Say no more. dchill Dec 2022 #18
Let this be an example to Trump. LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #19
May he be as loyal to Russia as he was to the United States. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2022 #21
Send him to the front lines IronLionZion Dec 2022 #22
Surprised it took him this long. cstanleytech Dec 2022 #23
Snowden misjudged the situation GoldandSilver Dec 2022 #25
He's dying for our sins! BeyondGeography Dec 2022 #26
Snowden is indeed, a whistle blower mysteryowl Dec 2022 #27
I've seen whistle blowers. paleotn Dec 2022 #30
+1. first you have to get past (wade through) stopdiggin Dec 2022 #34
I presume you will agree that Daniel Ellsberg was a whistleblower . . . markpkessinger Dec 2022 #40
Putin seems to like him too. And that tells you what? paleotn Dec 2022 #42
That is not what happened.. okojo Dec 2022 #28
Thank You! Snowden created a fictional narrative stopdiggin Dec 2022 #35
+1 betsuni Dec 2022 #41
China would have been more than willing to learn his secrets. paleotn Dec 2022 #31
He is following in Steve Seagal's footsteps mitch96 Dec 2022 #36
The man is a fool Hekate Dec 2022 #38
Snowden has a wife and children . . . markpkessinger Dec 2022 #39
You presume far too much when it comes to Snowden. paleotn Dec 2022 #43

Escurumbele

(3,378 posts)
32. What better propaganda than to have Snowden, born in the USA, now a Russian, fight for his
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 10:08 AM
Dec 2022

new country? I say he is going...

emulatorloo

(44,068 posts)
14. His lawyer claims he wont be conscripted. From WAPO:
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 07:32 PM
Dec 2022

Snowden swore his oath and received his passport as Moscow continued its war on Ukraine, now in its 10th month. His lawyer, Kucherena, said when Snowden was granted citizenship that he would not be subject to the partial military mobilization that Putin had decreed days before, since only men with previous military experience were being called up. However, it has been widely reported that many Russians without such experience have been summoned for duty in recent months.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
15. Hah! You know, Russian words are so trustworthy!
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 07:37 PM
Dec 2022

I wouldn't put it past the Russians to make a show of Snowden heading to war in Ukraine just for propaganda purposes.

I suspect Snowden is between a rock and a hard place, as they say.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
37. "Welcome to Russia. Here are your boots and gun..."
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 04:37 PM
Dec 2022

"Actually, no more guns. And only one boot. We do have for you this sturdy piece of wood and pack of sunflower seeds. Ukraine is over there. Do svidaniya, Comrade!"

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
33. Oh! Brava. So much better that I could have ..
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 11:47 AM
Dec 2022

I don't follow the man and/or his exploits closely, so I will refrain ...
Other than to say that - from very early on - I think he has always lent himself to skepticism concerning motivation ..

moniss

(4,173 posts)
7. Honestly I never had
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 07:04 PM
Dec 2022

any doubt who was pulling his strings. Now since it's official maybe his main supporter Glenn Greenwald will welcome him at a Putin reception.

ExtremelyWokeMatt

(161 posts)
10. Ew.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 07:19 PM
Dec 2022

There are many many things I’d go through to *not* swear allegiance to them. Actually… I think I’d have to pass through multiple afterlives and find a parallel universe where they somehow aren’t massive coercive assholes to even consider overt friendship with the state after learning about what they’ve done in this universe. It’s a shame Putin got into office and brought back all of the KGB style muck.

They could’ve reconstructed properly after the fall of the Soviet Union. Still can technically… but kind of hard when they’re hellbent on corrupt ‘governance’ and don’t give two figs about anyone not ‘purely’ ethnically tied to St. Petersburg or whatever. I imagine once the people have had enough though the oligarchs, mafia, and local cronies will finally get kicked to the curb though. They have a lot of healing to do internally and culturally, once the abuse is stopped anyway.

BWdem4life

(1,651 posts)
24. Pretty sure his supporters would know better by now
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 10:03 PM
Dec 2022

than to out themselves on this site and subject themselves to the bullying that would inevitably occur.

LudwigPastorius

(9,109 posts)
19. Let this be an example to Trump.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 08:53 PM
Dec 2022

If he flees to the waiting arms of Mother Russia to avoid espionage charges, he'll eventually be accepted as a citizen.

Do it, you fat, oily, orange fuck.

GoldandSilver

(186 posts)
25. Snowden misjudged the situation
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 11:52 PM
Dec 2022

The US government deliberately funneled Snowden to Russia, it was not something he wanted to do but he didn’t have much of a choice. Flee to Russia and the unknown and allow the US government to ruin his reputation or surrender to US authorities to be imprisoned, possibly for life.

Snowdens intention was to alert Americans to the fact their government has a huge “big brother” spy program that targets all Americans and they were lying through their teeth about it. It was his love of country and the American principles of democracy that led him to violate his oath of secrecy in the first place.

Russia gave him safe harbor. The US government and it’s propaganda machine continues to vilify him. Russia employs their own propaganda machine, using Snowden for their own purposes.

Snowden is a whistle blower and he deserves a level of gratitude for the sacrifices he made, even if his efforts were misplaced or misguided. He acted out of love, not hate. It is my hope he is able to restore his faith in humanity and live a good life where ever he chooses without fear.

BeyondGeography

(39,349 posts)
26. He's dying for our sins!
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 12:06 AM
Dec 2022

In a racist, homophobic, kleptocratic, fascist hellhole led by a war criminal.

He’s a damned fool.

mysteryowl

(7,363 posts)
27. Snowden is indeed, a whistle blower
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 12:11 AM
Dec 2022

I am surprised so many on this thread think he is a trader. This is DU, I thought.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
30. I've seen whistle blowers.
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 09:49 AM
Dec 2022

I know whistle blowers. They've been friends of mine. So take it from me, Snowden is no whistle blower.

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
34. +1. first you have to get past (wade through)
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 12:02 PM
Dec 2022

the attention seeking and self aggrandizement ... And then you can move on to his methodology - and the company that he chose as associates and fellow travelers ... Mix in a little 'brightest guy in the room' hubris, justification and self entitlement ...
----- --- --- ------

It is hard for the self serving (and supremely entitled) - to have much of a grasp on true 'service.'

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
40. I presume you will agree that Daniel Ellsberg was a whistleblower . . .
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 06:25 PM
Dec 2022

. . . and he has been fully supportive of Snowden. Do you suppose that you know more about what it means to be a whistleblower than Ellsberg?

okojo

(76 posts)
28. That is not what happened..
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 05:28 AM
Dec 2022

Last edited Sat Dec 3, 2022, 10:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Snowden lied about his need of a leave of absence at Booz Hamilton, the contractor for the NSA. He had been downloading data and documents for months before he fled the US.. Snowden has bragged he was some high level NSA employee when he was in reality he was a junior analyst working for others at a NSA facility in Hawaii for Booz Hamilton..

Snowden most likely was targeted by the Russians since 2007, when he was a contractor working for the US Consulate at Geneva.. He also worked in New Delhi.. Snowden most likely took his job in Hawaii with Booz Hamilton, with the purpose to download and access documents.. Snowden lied to his fellow employees about the need to access their password for computer maintenance, when he was actually using the passwords for access to take more files, many of them Dept of Defense Files.. Snowden took over 1.8 million documents..

Russia had to use PR, because it was better to portray Edward Snowden as a Whistleblower, than as a Russian Spy..

Snowden has lied about lots of his stuff, that he was hired as a hacker for both the CIA and NSA, when in reality he worked as a contractor trying to maintain software and mainframes of the NSA and CIA.. (one of his employees was Dell)

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
35. Thank You! Snowden created a fictional narrative
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 12:16 PM
Dec 2022

of self aggrandizement. The real story is something quite different.

It's too bad so many were taken in (in large part because the transgressions of Security were in fact sweeping) - which doesn't change the fact that the Snowden's story is largely invented, and largely smoke screen for what really transpired.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
31. China would have been more than willing to learn his secrets.
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 09:56 AM
Dec 2022

If they haven't already. Sorry. Ain't buying it. Lots of ACTUAL whistle blowers were and are brave enough to come forward and face the music for their actions. To let the rule of law judge their actions. Snowden is a coward and ran away. Maybe because he wasn't a whistle blower after all, but a garden variety traitor. Since his case won't be adjudicated anytime soon, we may never know for sure.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
39. Snowden has a wife and children . . .
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 06:20 PM
Dec 2022

. . . which presumably he wants some kind of life with. That certainly couldn't have happened had he returned to the U.S. Will his life be all that he might have wished for? Probably not. But it is a life. And he never set out to go to Russia; the U.S. stranded him there when it revoked his passport.

Lest we forget, Snowden was charge under the Espionage Act of 1917, an egregious relic of the Wilson administration that was passed to try to stifle dissent over our involvement in WWI. That law allows for no defense that one was acting in the public interest, and that fact rendered the possibility of receiving a fair trial in this country out of the question.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
43. You presume far too much when it comes to Snowden.
Sat Dec 3, 2022, 07:08 PM
Dec 2022

He's about Snowden. Always has been. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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