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Bucky

(54,013 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:17 PM Nov 2012

Elmo Voice Actor Exits Sesame Street Over Allegations of Underage Sex with Teen Boy

Source: Gawker Media

Allegations of sex with a 16-year-old boy have temporarily forced out the man responsible for voicing one of the most beloved Sesame Street characters of all time.

Kevin Clash, who has been the iconic voice of Elmo for the past 28 years, stands accused of engaging in a sexual relationship with an underage teen — allegations Clash denies.
Though he admits to having a relationship with his accuser — now 23 — Clash told TMZ the man was of legal age at the time. "It was between two consenting adults and I am deeply saddened that he is trying to make it into something it was not," Clash is quoted as saying.

Officials at Sesame Workshop, who have met with the unidentified accuser at least twice, stand by Clash, insisting that no evidence has been produced thus far to prove the claims.



Read more: http://gawker.com/5959706/elmo-voice-actor-kevin-clash-exits-sesame-street-over-allegations-of-underage-sex-with-teen-boy



Only a temporary exit, which the headline doesn't clarify. But damn, I'll bet this'll get ugly.
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Elmo Voice Actor Exits Sesame Street Over Allegations of Underage Sex with Teen Boy (Original Post) Bucky Nov 2012 OP
I have to wonder haikugal Nov 2012 #1
I wonder if a lawyer is involved in this. McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #4
I'd suspect a lawyer was Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #10
Thanks for your reasoned response haikugal Nov 2012 #11
Clash is 52 right now customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #2
Creepy does not equal illegal. This could all be blackmail. McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #3
I think the guy was 16 at the time. Some states have different age of consent rules, but this... hrmjustin Nov 2012 #5
Even if the age of consent was 18, generally Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #29
Creepy yes 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #17
True customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #18
Consensual should not be in scare quotes obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #25
Until more facts are known customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #30
The fact is that the accuser recanted his accusation. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #31
Thanks, I missed that customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #33
So the accuser is claiming statutory rape after the fact? Sounds like a revenge play. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #6
There is no court obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #26
the boy was of legal age dlwickham Nov 2012 #7
Still sounds creepy jollyreaper2112 Nov 2012 #8
The accused says the boy was of legal age but onenote Nov 2012 #9
The accused claims the boy was an 18 year old man mzmolly Nov 2012 #12
The accused says he was 18 obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #27
Is this nasty, nasty setup on a personal or national level ? I will wait and see. n/t kickysnana Nov 2012 #13
There's nothing to see -- it's over obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #28
Elmo, I would have suspected the Cookie Monster, but not you. I'm clearly disappointed olddad56 Nov 2012 #14
You have to be careful... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #15
And all this time I thought it was Bert and Ernie. marble falls Nov 2012 #16
Man who accused Elmo puppeteer of teen sex recants (13 November) struggle4progress Nov 2012 #19
Sesame Street star cleared of sex with underage boy (14 November) struggle4progress Nov 2012 #20
'Elmo' Accuser Recants Allegations of Underage Sex With Kevin Clash struggle4progress Nov 2012 #21
Apparently he was paid $125,000 to "recant". Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #22
"... according to TMZ ..." struggle4progress Nov 2012 #23
No, he extorted 125K from Clash obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #24
I hope sesame street is more lenient than most employers on this 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #35
He's resigned, hasn't he? struggle4progress Nov 2012 #37
I thought he was on voluntary leave 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #38
Kevin Clash, Elmo Puppeteer, Resigns struggle4progress Nov 2012 #39
Terrible 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #40
The double standard here is because it was a same-sex male relationship. Therefore everyone Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #32
Well I think Roman Polanski should be in prison (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #34
The issue is that the accused is a male 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #36
I agree with you summation 100%, but I do think there is also an edge of homophobia when it is two Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #41
 

Anthony McCarthy

(507 posts)
10. I'd suspect a lawyer was
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:18 PM
Nov 2012

but am prepared to see if they can prove a case he was underage at the time. Sesame Workshop says they didn't produce any evidence in two meetings, I'd guess they were trying to shake them down for a settlement and they saw no evidence to justify a payout.

I doubt the religious right was involved, since Klash said there was a relationship.

I will never understand middle aged me who want to have sex with people less than half their age.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
11. Thanks for your reasoned response
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:59 PM
Nov 2012

I agree to being mystified about why people get sexually involved with the very young.

In regard to my query about the religious right...it popped into my mind that any kind of evangelical 'born again' or 'sex therapy' could have been involved with someone so young. That was why I put it forward.

I hope this doesn't end up being a nightmare.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
2. Clash is 52 right now
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:21 PM
Nov 2012

If the young man is now 23, and this happened when he was 18, wouldn't that make Clash 47 years old at the time of the "consensual" relationship?

I know I'd find it creepy to have a 47 year old teacher who liked to date an 18 year old teaching my teenaged kid...

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
5. I think the guy was 16 at the time. Some states have different age of consent rules, but this...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:31 PM
Nov 2012

... looks horrible.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
29. Even if the age of consent was 18, generally
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:40 PM
Nov 2012

it's a felony under 16 and a misdemeanor over that age.

The real problem would be the publicity. It would cost him his job if proved, plus typically a fine and maybe 6 months jail time.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
17. Creepy yes
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:37 AM
Nov 2012

But lot's of things are creepy but carry not legal weight. Like face tattoos.

If the kid was 18 (or 17 I guess in that state) then no crime has occurred.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
18. True
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:22 PM
Nov 2012

But it might make a difference if someone wants to keep a job that potentially influences children. At least everything "Elmo" says on TV is completely edited.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
25. Consensual should not be in scare quotes
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:33 PM
Nov 2012

It was a legal and consensual relationship.

"Creepy" to some people is the beginning of a life-long marriage to others.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
30. Until more facts are known
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:55 PM
Nov 2012

We don't know if the younger party was of legal age or not.

Besides, we have laws and rules that cover teachers dating students of consenting age, Elmo is in effect, a being that speaks with authority to kids, and the relationship is close enough to still be creepy, without quotes.

It can't be making the folks who produce Sesame Street all that comfortable right now.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
6. So the accuser is claiming statutory rape after the fact? Sounds like a revenge play.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:33 PM
Nov 2012

Just sayin'

I'm sure it'll all come out in court.

PB

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
26. There is no court
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:36 PM
Nov 2012

The authorities were not involved, and a 125K settlement was requested, and apparently paid. Extortion imo. Nothing illegal happened.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
7. the boy was of legal age
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:35 PM
Nov 2012

when they had the relationship

the title of the article is wrong and nothing but sensationalism on the part of the website

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
8. Still sounds creepy
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:45 PM
Nov 2012

Man and boy sounds as creepy as man and girl. Though depending on how you define the terms, boy is prepubescent and young man would be post.

Of course, this sort of relationship as well as criticism of it is as old as the Greeks.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
9. The accused says the boy was of legal age but
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:13 PM
Nov 2012

the story says he was 16. Based on my assumption that the sexual contact took place in New York, the boy was not of legal age (age of consent in New York being 17).

Of course at this point, its all "he said, he said" in terms of when the relationship (which has been acknowledged) began.

mzmolly

(50,992 posts)
12. The accused claims the boy was an 18 year old man
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:07 PM
Nov 2012

at the time of the relationship. Time will probably demonstrate who is being truthful.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
27. The accused says he was 18
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:37 PM
Nov 2012

And, the emails he used as the "smoking gun" were written when he was 21.

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
19. Man who accused Elmo puppeteer of teen sex recants (13 November)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:29 PM
Nov 2012

The Associated Press
First Published Nov 13 2012 03:45 pm • Last Updated Nov 13 2012 05:17 pm

New York • A man who accused Elmo puppeteer Kevin Clash of having sex with him when he was a teenage boy has recanted his story.

In a quick turnabout, the man on Tuesday described his sexual relationship with Clash as adult and consensual.

Clash responded with a statement of his own, saying he is "relieved that this painful allegation has been put to rest." He had no further comment.

The man, who has not identified himself, released his statement through the Harrisburg, Pa., law firm Andreozzi & Associates ...

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/55270689-68/clash-sesame-elmo-workshop.html.csp

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
20. Sesame Street star cleared of sex with underage boy (14 November)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nov 2012

... Puppeteer Kevin Clash, who plays the squeaky-voiced favourite, was accused of bedding the unnamed lad seven years ago.

He had said he was just 16 when he hooked up with then 45-year-old Clash - making a sexual relationship illegal.

But the alleged victim has withdrawn the claim - and told that he was an adult when he hooked up with Clash.

The show is filmed in New York, where state law puts the age of consent at 17 ...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4643625/Elmo-puppeter-cleared-of-sex-with-underage-boy.html

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
21. 'Elmo' Accuser Recants Allegations of Underage Sex With Kevin Clash
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:33 PM
Nov 2012

... Clash, who is on voluntary leave from Sesame Workshop, issued a statement Monday denying he'd had an inappropriate relationship with his accuser.

"I am a gay man. I have never been ashamed of this or tried to hide it but felt it was a personal and private matter. I had a relationship with the accuser. It was between two consenting adults, and I am deeply saddened that he is trying to characterize it as something other than what it was," Clash said in a statement issued to ABC News.
PHOTO:"Sesame Street" puppeteer Kevin Clash poses for a portrait during the 2011 Sundance Film Festival to promote the film "Being Elmo" in Park City, Utah.
Victoria Will/AP Photo
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"I am taking a break from Sesame Workshop to deal with this false and defamatory allegation," he said.

Sesame Workshop said it took the allegation "very seriously" and had taken "immediate action," but after an investigation, which included interviews with Clash and his accuser, found the claims to be "unsubstantiated." ...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/elmo-accuser-recants-allegations-underage-sex-kevin-clash/story?id=17710758

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
24. No, he extorted 125K from Clash
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:31 PM
Nov 2012

It was a consensual relationship. Clash would have been arrested if it was rape, but the authorities were never involved, because the accuser was NOT a minor. The "smoking gun" emails were exchanged when the accuser was 21.

Notice the accuser didn't go to the police, but rather to Clash's attorney and TMZ.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
35. I hope sesame street is more lenient than most employers on this
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:48 PM
Nov 2012

for many the accusation is enough to end their careers, even if it is demonstrably untrue.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
38. I thought he was on voluntary leave
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:34 PM
Nov 2012

I hadn't heard that he had resigned.

If so that is just tragic. The guy did nothing wrong (ok, maybe with the age difference he was a little creepy, but still nothing at all illegal).

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
39. Kevin Clash, Elmo Puppeteer, Resigns
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:38 PM
Nov 2012

November 20, 2012, 11:14 am
Kevin Clash, Elmo Puppeteer, Resigns
By ELIZABETH JENSEN and BRIAN STELTER

12:27 p.m. | Updated Kevin Clash, the longtime voice and puppeteer behind Sesame Street’s Elmo character, has resigned in the aftermath of allegations that he had underage sexual relationships.

Mr. Clash was first accused last week of sexual improprieties by a 24-year-old man who later recanted. That man has remained anonymous.

On Tuesday, the gossip Web site TMZ reported that a second accuser, Cecil Singleton, has now filed a lawsuit in New York alleging that he had an underage sexual relationship with Mr. Clash almost a decade ago. The report could not immediately be verified ...

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/20/kevin-clash-elmo-puppeteer-resigns/

Puregonzo1188

(1,948 posts)
32. The double standard here is because it was a same-sex male relationship. Therefore everyone
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:17 PM
Nov 2012

assumes the older party is a pedophile since we all know teh gayz are all child molesters. If this had been a middle aged woman and a teenage boy of legal age reactions would be completely different.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
36. The issue is that the accused is a male
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:51 PM
Nov 2012

same sex relationships between two women don't get this sort of attention. They get a lot of attention but usually of the "OMgawd! That is soo HOT!" nonsense, not the "string the sick bastard up" sort of attention usually reserved for when the accused happens to be male.

40 year old guy sleeps with young female: sick predator, hang 'em.
40 year old guy sleeps with young male: sick predator, hang 'em.
40 year old woman sleeps with young male: Nice . . . I wish I had a teacher/doctor/nurse/etc like that when I was a kid.
40 year old woman sleeps with young female: HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/I'm not saying this is the correct response. And I don't agree with it. But that does seem to be how these things go.

Puregonzo1188

(1,948 posts)
41. I agree with you summation 100%, but I do think there is also an edge of homophobia when it is two
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:33 PM
Nov 2012

men. People still conflate gay men with sexual predators--hence the "no gayz" in the Boy Scouts or stuff like that.

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