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iemanja

(53,012 posts)
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 07:26 PM Jan 2023

Justice Department asks FEC to stand down as prosecutors probe Santos

Source: Washington Post

The Justice Department has asked the Federal Election Commission to hold off on any enforcement action against George Santos, the Republican congressman from New York who lied about key aspects of his biography, as prosecutors conduct a parallel criminal probe, according to two people familiar with the request.

The request, which came from the Justice Department’s Public Integrity Section, is the clearest sign to date that federal prosecutors are examining Santos’s campaign finances.

The Justice Department request also asked that the FEC provide any relevant documents to the Justice Department, according to the knowledgeable people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment. An FEC spokeswoman said the regulator “cannot comment on enforcement.” Neither Santos nor his attorney responded to requests for comment.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/01/27/santos-doj-investigation-fec/

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Justice Department asks FEC to stand down as prosecutors probe Santos (Original Post) iemanja Jan 2023 OP
Beat me to it! BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #1
Hey, you get most of them! iemanja Jan 2023 #2
I have the app on my iPad sitting next to me BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #4
Doesn't that violate copyright though? iemanja Jan 2023 #14
Those are archived links BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #21
Are you sure about that? sl8 Jan 2023 #23
I have used either... BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #26
I'm a bit lost now. sl8 Jan 2023 #28
Well my original reply was to someone else BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #30
OK, that's all fine, but I still don't see what any of it has to do with my question. sl8 Jan 2023 #31
Not being dense BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #32
OK, thanks. sl8 Jan 2023 #33
You as well!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #34
Woohoo montanacowboy Jan 2023 #3
Santos is morbidly fascinating.. agingdem Jan 2023 #19
So in a way he is a vampire DBoon Jan 2023 #48
I'm thinking Santos isn't capable of being worried. Like tfg was never worried or concerned of his msfiddlestix Jan 2023 #46
I think Santos is going to get nailed for campaign finance irregularities. ShazzieB Jan 2023 #5
+ agree. n/t iluvtennis Jan 2023 #7
I think it's possible he did it for the salary. ShazzieB Jan 2023 #20
How about 'Conspiracy to defraud the United States'? Justice matters. Jan 2023 #13
i thought he told the person he was living with that he wanted to get into congress orleans Jan 2023 #43
Takes 3 terms IbogaProject Jan 2023 #45
right. but perhaps he hadn't heard about that pesky little detail. lol nt orleans Jan 2023 #47
DOJ will do like does with all republicans. Pat on the back, no cookie today. End of story Augiedog Jan 2023 #6
Which agency is more likely to act? Marthe48 Jan 2023 #8
The FEC is known for being toothless Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #11
I hear you. iemanja Jan 2023 #12
2 Months tops until he is out Obvious85 Jan 2023 #9
or until he shoots up the chamber samnsara Jan 2023 #44
Prosecute and deport the asshole. dalton99a Jan 2023 #10
What the Russian oligarchs Corgigal Jan 2023 #15
I am curious if Elise Stefanik mgardener Jan 2023 #16
I'd be happy to invite Congressman Santos to dinner. Tetrachloride Jan 2023 #17
What would you cook? PJMcK Jan 2023 #25
The choices... oh my.... I'd consult the chefs in my family Tetrachloride Jan 2023 #27
Is Santos even a US citizen? That is the $1M question that hasn't been answered. OMGWTF Jan 2023 #18
Exactly. When the DOJ gets done investigating his very "identity," the least it would do is ancianita Jan 2023 #24
It's a good thing Santos edhopper Jan 2023 #22
Interesting, it's known his aides committed fraud in getting donations Warpy Jan 2023 #29
"Embarrassed republicans"? SergeStorms Jan 2023 #49
Rich Republicans get embarrassed when they get conned Warpy Jan 2023 #50
If rich republicans get conned.... SergeStorms Jan 2023 #51
yeah, that's why Santos (or whoever he is) got outed Warpy Jan 2023 #52
This is probably the aftermath of stuff revealed back in December BumRushDaShow Jan 2023 #35
I hope this is a good thing!!! CaptainTruth Jan 2023 #36
"the clearest sign to date"...is it though, or is someone running interference for him? NullTuples Jan 2023 #37
IMO e rabbit hole runs deeper that many expected it to regarding the apparent money laundering Ford_Prefect Jan 2023 #38
What's the Putin connection? iemanja Jan 2023 #39
Was front page news early on. But the MSM has done nothing with it apparently preferring gossip. Ford_Prefect Jan 2023 #40
That's strange iemanja Jan 2023 #41
He told many stories the right way to the right people who were prepared to believe he was what they Ford_Prefect Jan 2023 #42

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
4. I have the app on my iPad sitting next to me
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 07:34 PM
Jan 2023

so the breaking banner had just popped in and then I was gonna try to get a "no paywall" link... and... and...

Here it is -

No paywall

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
26. I have used either...
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 08:59 PM
Jan 2023

one has the little calendars with dates and number of times snapshots that were taken or the other - both have a URL search.

I have paid subs to WaPo, NYT, Bloomberg, The Atlantic, New Yorker, Mother Jones, New York Magazine, Nat Geo, Vanity Fair, The Nation, Philly Inquirer, & Philly Tribune.

sl8

(13,665 posts)
28. I'm a bit lost now.
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 09:06 PM
Jan 2023

I was just saying that I don't think those two web sites / organizations are affiliated with each other. Listing all of your subscriptions seems a non-sequitur.

I think you may have read something into my comment that I didn't intend.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
30. Well my original reply was to someone else
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 09:18 PM
Jan 2023

and more along the line of my being a "newsy" person (which is what mainly brought me to DU). When I do LBNs, I have tried to be mindful of those who hit paywalls with some LBN links (although some sites let you have "x" number of few "free" views before the paywall goes up). So if something "breaking" comes in, I have tried to use more sites other than those with paywalls (and my list was what I sub to that I have or could use to post in here). But if the story isn't on one of the "free" sites (like a broadcast site that does print/web stories), then I try to find the archive/snapshot sites. I have even found stuff on Google's cache.

sl8

(13,665 posts)
31. OK, that's all fine, but I still don't see what any of it has to do with my question.
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 09:26 PM
Jan 2023

You said the two organizations/sites were associated. I asked if you were sure, and said that I didn't think they were.

If someone had said that Yahoo.com and Google.com were associated with each other, I would have replied the same way.

I appreciate all the info, but I really don't see what it has to do with whether or not those two organizations are affiliated. Maybe I'm being a bit dense.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
32. Not being dense
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 09:36 PM
Jan 2023

more my knowing there is an "archive.org" and an "archive.today" and an "archive.xx" (fill in country or other registered domain and/or mirror) and a yyy.archive.xxx, etc., and I have several that I keep in tabs all in a row. If I was in error associating them, then chalk it up to too much multi-tasking!

agingdem

(7,805 posts)
19. Santos is morbidly fascinating..
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 08:28 PM
Jan 2023

he is a patchwork of lies...he steals and embellishes catastrophic events (the Holocaust/World Trade Center/Pulse Night Club),he steals pieces of people's lives (education,/awards/race, ethnicity), co-opts grandiose employment histories, and plays the victim of bogus acts of violence (mugged and shoes stolen)..but because his outward appearance is nondescript and non-threatening, he is rarely confronted with the massive discrepancies in his fabricated bio...until now

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
46. I'm thinking Santos isn't capable of being worried. Like tfg was never worried or concerned of his
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 11:34 AM
Jan 2023

treasonous actions, nor his associations with the Russian mob, nor all of the years of financial fraud, money laundering, having certain people "offed" etc.

Though I have never had the displeasure of hearing him speak, and rarely do read his tweets on purpose.

Everything I've read about him seems to add up to a genuine criminal psychopath. Just like TFG.

ShazzieB

(16,272 posts)
5. I think Santos is going to get nailed for campaign finance irregularities.
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 07:43 PM
Jan 2023

From what Lawrence O'Donnell has been saying, his latest report on his election finances is riddled with problems. In particular, once Santos admitted that one large infusion of money didn’t come from his personal funds (as he had reported previously) , it became a de facto illegal contribution, because it exceeds the amount any donor can legally contribute to a campaign.

He may get away with a lot of the other stuff, but I think it's just a matter of time before his lying ass gets nailed to the wall over campaign finance issues.

ShazzieB

(16,272 posts)
20. I think it's possible he did it for the salary.
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 08:28 PM
Jan 2023

But prosecuting him for that sounds like a much heavier lift than getting him for lying about campaign finances. I'm happy with whatever works.

Justice matters.

(6,918 posts)
13. How about 'Conspiracy to defraud the United States'?
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 08:02 PM
Jan 2023

Congress lawmakers in the House get a $174,000 paycheck per year. As he lied on every statement in his résumé to get elected fraudulently, is it possible he did it in part to get the yearly salary (for 'free' sorta)?

orleans

(34,040 posts)
43. i thought he told the person he was living with that he wanted to get into congress
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 12:33 AM
Jan 2023

for the benefits (? retirement, health insurance or some crap like that)

Marthe48

(16,898 posts)
8. Which agency is more likely to act?
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 07:49 PM
Jan 2023

If the FEC is actually going to do something about santos, let them. If DOJ is just going to fart around, step out of the way so FEC can keep going.

My husband died 6 years ago. Seeing a traitor get into the White House didn't help him with his own fight. I am 70. I want to see some of these criminals made to answer for their crimes before I die. I am so tired of the constant 'investigations, that seem to go nowhere, or peter out, or end inconclusively. Yeah, I know, they take time and the investigators have to be sure of the facts before they act. There are so many complicit in the crime, someone is spreading a net, yadda yadda yadda. Is waiting for justice going to be generational?

mgardener

(1,812 posts)
16. I am curious if Elise Stefanik
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 08:15 PM
Jan 2023

Will get caught up in this probe.
Apparently he donated to her campaign.

She looks like a gullible fool.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
24. Exactly. When the DOJ gets done investigating his very "identity," the least it would do is
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 08:47 PM
Jan 2023

refer him for deportation back to Brazil; the most it would do is indict him on multiple counts of election fraud.

Warpy

(111,140 posts)
29. Interesting, it's known his aides committed fraud in getting donations
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 09:12 PM
Jan 2023

It's not known whether or not Santos (or whoever he is) will skate on that one. It's highly likely that Santos (or whoever he is) is being investigated for other allegations, some of which haven't been made public by embarrassed Republicans.

One hopes the Lula administration in Brazil will do us a favor by extraditing whoever he is.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
49. "Embarrassed republicans"?
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 09:15 AM
Jan 2023

I believe republicans have demonstrated that there is no bottom to their corruption, and that they're completely incapable of shame or embarrassment.

They simply move on to their next con.

Warpy

(111,140 posts)
50. Rich Republicans get embarrassed when they get conned
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 02:11 PM
Jan 2023

If they get caught conning the rest of us, that's business as usual.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
51. If rich republicans get conned....
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 02:56 PM
Jan 2023

do we ever hear about it?

When was the last time we heard about an uber-wealthy republican (the type who control Congressional republicans) getting conned by anyone?

Those are the same uber-wealthy republicans who control the media as well. Their dirty laundry seldom gets aired out. 😉

Warpy

(111,140 posts)
52. yeah, that's why Santos (or whoever he is) got outed
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 03:17 PM
Jan 2023

He and his staff conned a lot of money out of rich Republicans.

He could have lied his ass off, paid himself $750,000 of laundered money from his dummy corporation (probably with a few Russians donating the boodle) and conned every voter he ever met and no one would have said a thing about it. Con a major Republican donor, all hell is going to break loose.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
35. This is probably the aftermath of stuff revealed back in December
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 09:43 PM
Jan 2023
Congressman-elect George Santos faces federal investigation after admitting to lying on resume
newyork

By Lisa Rozner

Updated on: December 29, 2022 / 6:59 AM / CBS New York

SYOSSET, N.Y. -- Federal and county prosecutors are looking into Congressman-elect George Santos after the Long Island Republican lied on his resume.

CBS News has confirmed that federal prosecutors are examining Santos' finances, and the Nassau County District Attorney's Office is looking into his admitted fabrications about his past.

From defending his reputation on Fox News, Santos may soon have to explain himself in a court of law.

CBS News sources say prosecutors with the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York are looking into his finances, including financial disclosure filings in the wake of Santos' own public admissions to lying about his resume, background and other information.

(snip)

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/george-santos-federal-investigation/

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
37. "the clearest sign to date"...is it though, or is someone running interference for him?
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 11:03 PM
Jan 2023

I guess only time will tell.

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
38. IMO e rabbit hole runs deeper that many expected it to regarding the apparent money laundering
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 11:09 PM
Jan 2023

exposed in Santos's financials. It's been suggested that he was paying off a few of his local "family" at the restaurant. It may in fact prove to be much more than that. To say nothing of what Putin's front man was doing and how all that cash was washed through the campaign.

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
40. Was front page news early on. But the MSM has done nothing with it apparently preferring gossip.
Fri Jan 27, 2023, 11:57 PM
Jan 2023

NY Fund Manager Linked to Russian Oligarch Invested Big With Santos.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/01/george-santos-andrew-intrater/

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
42. He told many stories the right way to the right people who were prepared to believe he was what they
Sat Jan 28, 2023, 12:09 AM
Jan 2023

wanted. That's the nature of a conman. He's an adept liar to the right audience. He wouldn't fool you or me. But the gang who believed in Trumpian logic swallow that stuff for breakfast.

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