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BumRushDaShow

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Sun Mar 26, 2023, 07:00 AM Mar 2023

New tornadoes menace Georgia as Biden approves disaster relief for Mississippi

Last edited Sun Mar 26, 2023, 06:44 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: ABC News

A series of twisters touched down Sunday in Georgia -- two described by the National Weather Service as "large and extremely dangerous" -- as President Joe Biden approved disaster relief for storm-battered Mississippi, where at least 25 people were left dead in the wake of a powerful tornado outbreak. The NWS extended a tornado watch eastward across Mississippi until midnight Sunday. Residents of the Macon, Georgia, suburbs of Milledgeville, Linton, Beulah and Underwood were advised Sunday morning by the weather service to "take cover now."

A second tornado was confirmed to have touched down Sunday morning near LaGrange, Georgia, about 65 miles southeast of Atlanta, and was moving east at 40 mph, according to the weather service. "You are in a life-threatening situation," the weather service warned residents in the path of both funnel clouds. Troup County Sheriff’s Office in Georgia confirmed that a likely tornado swept through the town of West Point near the Alabama line and damaged 80 to 100 structures, leaving 20 to 30 structures with major damage. The sheriff’s office said up to three people were injured in the storm.

The Pine Mountain Safari in Pine Mountain, Georgia, about 40 miles north of Columbus, Georgia, was also hit by a tornado and that two tigers escape from their damaged enclosure but were quickly recaptured and quickly returned to the wildlife park. Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp declared a state of emergency for parts of Georgia as the tornado activity was accompanied by heavy rain and flooding. A tornado watch remained in effect for parts of Alabama and Georgia Sunday afternoon. At least 4 million people in the South are also under a severe thunderstorm watch forecast to be accompanied by golf ball-sized hail and 60 mph winds.

As the severe weather continued in the South from the early spring storm that began in California, where it spawned twisters near Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, towns in rural Mississippi were starting the clean up from the swarm of tornadoes on Friday. Biden approved disaster relief for Mississippi on Sunday, making funding available to those impacted by the storm devastation. Federal funds will be available to government, tribal and other agencies in Carroll, Humphreys, Monroe and Sharkey counties, the White House said in a statement.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-approves-mississippi-disaster-relief-tornado-classified-rare/story?id=98133211



ETA - The EF4 preliminary was for 170 mph winds (entry #13) - https://www.weather.gov/jan/2023tornadoinfo





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The Rolling Fork/Silver City tornado has received a preliminary EF-4 rating. We still have a great amount of information to process, and we will provide additional details on this tornado as they are finalized.
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Some additional preliminary stats from the Rolling Fork/Silver City tornado -
Path length: approximately 59 miles beginning in northern Issaquena Co and ending in northern Holmes Co
Duration: 1 hour, 10 minutes (7:57 PM - 9:08 PM)
Maximum path width: 3/4 mile
12:53 AM · Mar 26, 2023





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Some additional preliminary stats from the Rolling Fork/Silver City tornado -
Path length: approximately 59 miles beginning in northern Issaquena Co and ending in northern Holmes Co
Duration: 1 hour, 10 minutes (7:57 PM - 9:08 PM)
Maximum path width: 3/4 mile
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We'll have more details in the coming days.

To reiterate, this information remains preliminary as we continue to process and receive additional information. We apologize that this process takes so much time, and we appreciate your patience.
12:54 AM · Mar 26, 2023


They still have much to do and survey due to how broad an area the convective complex covered.

Article updated.

Previous article -

At least two twisters touched down Sunday morning in Georgia -- both described by the National Weather Service as "large and extremely dangerous" -- as President Joe Biden approved disaster relief for storm-battered Mississippi, where at least 25 people were left dead in the wake of a powerful tornado. Residents of the Macon, Georgia, suburbs of Milledgeville, Linton, Beulah and Underwood were being advised by the weather service to "take cover now."

A second tornado was confirmed to have touched down Sunday morning near LaGrange, Georgia, about 65 miles southeast of Atlanta, and was moving east at 40 mph, according to the weather service. "You are in a life-threatening situation," the weather service warned residents in the path of both funnel clouds. While the amount of damage and possible casualties remain unclear in Georgia, the weather service warned that flying debris could be deadly for those caught without shelter, and there is a likelihood homes, businesses and vehicles "will be destroyed."

A tornado watch is in effect until at least 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time for parts of Alabama and Georgia. At least 4 million people in the South are also under a severe thunderstorm watch forecast to be accompanied by golf ball-sized hail and 60 mph winds. As the severe weather continued in the South from the early spring storm that began in California, where it spawned twisters near Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, towns in rural Mississippi were starting the clean up from a massive tornado on Friday.

Biden approved disaster relief for Mississippi on Sunday, making funding available to those impacted by the storm devastation. Federal funds will be available to government, tribal and other agencies in Carroll, Humphreys, Monroe and Sharkey counties, the White House said in a statement.


Original article -

Biden approves Mississippi disaster relief, as tornado is classified as rare, powerful EF-4

President Joe Biden on Sunday approved disaster relief for Mississippi, making funding available to those impacted by the severe storms that battered the state on Friday night.

Federal funds will be available to government, tribal and other agencies in Carroll, Humphreys, Monroe and Sharkey counties, the White House said in a statement.

The severe tornado that tore through Rolling Fork, Mississippi, late Friday was assigned a rating of EF-4, a classification that marks it as a rare and powerful storm.

The National Weather Service office in Jackson, Mississippi, said the preliminary rating comes as staffers are still gathering information about the storm.
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New tornadoes menace Georgia as Biden approves disaster relief for Mississippi (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 OP
K&R...... Lovie777 Mar 2023 #1
Good for the people of MS lonely bird Mar 2023 #2
They never do that. BigmanPigman Mar 2023 #3
"They" Number 1,829,000 -- "We" Number 1,121,000 -- "They" Are Fascists -- "We" Are Democrats MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #12
Should be called... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #17
LoL, I'm Not Insulting Machiavelli... I'm Insulting Those Embracing 'Machiavellian" Morales MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #18
Is it just me or does Tate Reeves look like an extra from Mississippi Burning? paleotn Mar 2023 #13
We will help but we all need history. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #4
The worst of it has happened in Bennie Thompson's district (MS-2) BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #8
As a reminder for those who may not know or have forgotten.... Duppers Mar 2023 #10
Why the fuck hasn't he already fixed EVERYTHING??? What is his fucking problem??? Ferrets are Cool Mar 2023 #5
That is a really horrible tornado. Worse than IKE in Houston. flying_wahini Mar 2023 #6
There are reasons why the South has more deadlier tornadoes than the classic Tornado Alley tornado34jh Mar 2023 #7
Plus the landscape Tree-Hugger Mar 2023 #11
Nighttime tornadoes in general aren't a good one to be chasing to begin with tornado34jh Mar 2023 #15
Tornado alley has shifted east. paleotn Mar 2023 #14
Well, I think part of it has to do with the weather has been tornado34jh Mar 2023 #16
Thank you for helping the people of MS, President Biden! AllyCat Mar 2023 #9
Shouldn't these red states all forego federal aids since the nine "scariest" words apparently are AZLD4Candidate Mar 2023 #19
NWS update on the 2 tornadoes that did the most damage (an EF4 and an EF3) BumRushDaShow Mar 2023 #20
Good luck, people! ... electric_blue68 Mar 2023 #21

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
3. They never do that.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:34 AM
Mar 2023

Instead they will bitch about the Dems, take fed help without a thank you then treat us like shit at the next election. Happens over and over and over. Hypocrites and ingrates. Blue states pay and red states take.

MayReasonRule

(1,460 posts)
12. "They" Number 1,829,000 -- "We" Number 1,121,000 -- "They" Are Fascists -- "We" Are Democrats
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:36 AM
Mar 2023
Delusional Machiavellian Fascism will always be at war with Reasoned Progressive Democracy
It's a battle as old as mankind.

Over a million of our reasoned citizenry are within the State of Mississippi. They suffer through fascist barbarism on a daily basis. I have great empathy. I am within the State of Louisiana which is also run by fascist barbarians.

Red state and Blue state are misnomers at best.
It's akin to purporting that "there are only two genders!"... FFS
Demonstrating humanity during a time of war is a perilous proposition. How to be humane and yet not provide "... aid and comfort to the enemy...", is a salient consideration.

However much the fascists of the state will wail and moan, it's impossible for me to fathom that withholding aid during a time of such calamity would do anything but injure our own within their state, as well as injuring our party, and each of us that make up the Democratic Party.

Our nation's populace is in the midst of a Spanish Inquisition Y'all Qaeda Nat-C Style courtesy of the fascists within the Federalist Society, and the entirety of the GOP.

"White" Republicans run Mississippi State Government by design.
It was only last year that the state voted to remove Confederate imagery from the state flag.

10% of voters are disenfranchised by felony convictions, the highest rate in the country.
That includes 130,000 "Black" voters, 16% of the adult "Black" population in the state.

Mississippi’s Republican-dominated legislature has rejected any and all voting restoration pathways.
“Felony disenfranchisement is an animating principle of the social contract at the heart of every great republic dating back to the founding of ancient Greece and Rome." “In America, such laws date back to the colonies and the eventual founding of our Republic.”
- Mississippi Governor Reeves

Voter turnout in the 2020 presidential election in Mississippi was about 60%, the sixth worst in the country. That's by design.
Felony disenfranchisement, racial gerrymandering, and strict photo ID requirements at polls are employed as tactics to suppress the vote.

I'm in total favor of Biden providing Federal Aid for Disaster Relief and Community Rebuilding.
It's the prudent and humane thing to do, no matter how much the fascists "bitch" about it.

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
17. Should be called...
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:05 PM
Mar 2023

Delusional fascism, leave Machiavelli out of it. He's been maligned for centuries over his descriptions of what he saw and experienced, he didn't think that shit up. It's what he saw in the governments he worked with as a civil servant and what he wrote was a warning to future governments and peoples of what to avoid when structuring and actuating government.

Because he exposed the base machinations of ne'er do wells and despots in power and how they functioned, he was maligned for centuries in attempts to make him the bad guy for writing what he wrote. Oddly, not, by those who functioned in ways he had warned about.

Sound familiar? Little has changed since his time.

MayReasonRule

(1,460 posts)
18. LoL, I'm Not Insulting Machiavelli... I'm Insulting Those Embracing 'Machiavellian" Morales
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 12:24 PM
Mar 2023

...i.e. the Nat-C Fascist GOP.

I appreciate the sentiment y'all, and agree with you wholeheartedly regarding Machiavelli's intent.

I read the tome at the age of eight, at the same time I was reading Edgar Allan Poe, Lovecraft, Asimov,and Bradbury.

The Prince is an astounding work for which I have great respect.

It describes the nature of things. It states how things are as opposed to how we would like for them to be.

It's why I say that Machiavelli and Darwin always apply.

It's not the way I would have it, nonetheless it is the nature of the beast.

May reason rule.




 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
4. We will help but we all need history.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:52 AM
Mar 2023

Mississippi's former 4th District Congressman, Steven Palazzo, was among 67 republican House members to vote against a $9.7 billion relief package for the victims of Hurricane Sandy.
Yes we remember.

Duppers

(28,094 posts)
10. As a reminder for those who may not know or have forgotten....
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:08 AM
Mar 2023

From Wikipedia...

Hurricane Sandy

(unofficially referred to as Superstorm Sandy)[1][2] was an extremely destructive and strong Atlantic hurricane, as well as the largest Atlantic hurricane on record as measured by diameter, with tropical-storm-force winds spanning 1,150 miles (1,850 km).[3][4][5] The storm inflicted nearly $70 billion (2012 USD) in damage and killed 233 people across eight countries from the Caribbean to Canada.[6][7] The eighteenth named storm, tenth hurricane, and second major hurricane of the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season, Sandy was a Category 3 storm at its peak intensity when it made landfall in Cuba, though most of the damage it caused was after it became a Category 1-equivalent extratropical cyclone off the coast of the Northeastern United States.[8]


tornado34jh

(867 posts)
7. There are reasons why the South has more deadlier tornadoes than the classic Tornado Alley
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 09:34 AM
Mar 2023

Dixie Alley, as it is called, runs from Arkansas, Tennessee and Louisiana all the way up to Georgia. First, the types of thunderstorms that are going to be there tend to be of the high-precipitation type. Because of that, there is a heavy rain that often obscures tornadoes, making it difficult to see where it is. Second, the population density is much higher than in the Great Plains. There are more population centers in those areas. Third, these tornadoes often happen at night, which makes it at least twice as deadly not only because of the fact that people may be sleeping, but it is hard to see it unless it is illuminated by lightning. Finally, their severe weather season lasts longer because it is warmer and more humid and can occur even during the winter. They are also more or less near the transition point between the more tropical climates of Florida and the more temperate climates up north, so those clashes of air masses can really get those things going.

Some of the most deadliest of tornadoes in recent times have been in Mississippi and Alabama, and really there has been a shift where although the classic Tornado Alley does still get a lot of the tornadoes, most of the deadliest and most significant outbreaks has been more in the South.

Tree-Hugger

(3,364 posts)
11. Plus the landscape
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:17 AM
Mar 2023

Unlike the plains, Dixie Alley has a lot of hills and trees. You often don't see a tornado until it is right on you.

Too many inexperienced chasers were on this. Nighttime Dixie Alley tornadoes are not an ideal chase even for very experienced chasers.

tornado34jh

(867 posts)
15. Nighttime tornadoes in general aren't a good one to be chasing to begin with
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:02 AM
Mar 2023

Regardless of location, but especially in areas with elevation changes or forests.

paleotn

(17,781 posts)
14. Tornado alley has shifted east.
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 10:54 AM
Mar 2023

Growing up in middle TN, tornados were a thing every spring. I distinctly remember the '74 outbreak. But they were smaller, less intense, skip and hop tornadoes. Take out 3 or 4 houses. Leave the next 3 or 4 barely touched. Set down again damaging 3 or 4 more. Repeat for maybe 30 miles tops. Nothing like the monsters they have now.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/torando-alley-creeping-new-territory-rcna67426

Plus increased frequency, intensity and variability across the year. Not just confined mostly to the Winter / Spring change over.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-018-0048-2

tornado34jh

(867 posts)
16. Well, I think part of it has to do with the weather has been
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 11:51 AM
Mar 2023

Overall, there has been a drying trend in the western half (this year is an exception for California), while much of the southeast has been seeing more rain. The Central Plains have been in a drought for quite a while. I think the precipitation has mostly moved east towards the more humid subtropical climates.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,568 posts)
19. Shouldn't these red states all forego federal aids since the nine "scariest" words apparently are
Sun Mar 26, 2023, 08:30 PM
Mar 2023

I'm from the the government and I'm here to help and pull themselves up by the libertarian bootstraps?

I mean, my state didn't have tornadoes and why should my hard earned tax money go to freeloaders that decided to be unprepared for tornadoes in states where they hit all the time?

They should have moved. They should have built stronger buildings. They should have done a lot, and now, these 47% hand out wanters demand my tax dollars subsidize their ignorance and laziness?

Hell, what is this "national weather service?" Now, my tax dollars are going to some service run by Washington that makes weather happen? Maybe it's Biden's fault. After all, the National Weather Service is in the executive. I'm sure Hunter Biden's laptop had something to do with making an EF4 tornado.

And now we have this enhanced fujita scale? So, Tax and Spend Democrats had to spend my hard earned money to enhance something that doesn't even need to be used where I live? Why did it have to be enhanced in the first place?

All this disaster socialism is destroying America. Let Mississippi pull itself up by its boot straps? I mean, that's why red states said when Hurricane Sandy hit New York and New Jersey.

BumRushDaShow

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20. NWS update on the 2 tornadoes that did the most damage (an EF4 and an EF3)
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 12:41 PM
Mar 2023



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Detailed summaries of Friday night's Rolling Fork/Silver City EF4 tornado and Blackhawk/Winona EF3 tornado are now available: https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=PNSJAN&e=202303280208
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Additional information is still being assessed, including aerial imagery from satellite and UAS. Locations with the most severe damage along the paths are now being reviewed. Follow up surveys are possible, and updates to survey results are likely in the coming days.
10:29 PM · Mar 27, 2023








Link to damage surveys with analyses/descriptions - https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=PNSJAN&e=202303280208

electric_blue68

(14,623 posts)
21. Good luck, people! ...
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 08:39 PM
Mar 2023

Duh... I first read this as "tomatoes! 😜


I was like wtf?! Thinking some kind of genetically modified but somehow bad tomato was now going to "infect" GA tomato crops. 😄
Do they even grow tomatoes commercially there?


Not meaning to sound cavalier... They're terrifying! The fact that NYC now gets a E1 a few a year to every other year or two VS. once every 10+ years is disturbing!

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