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Polybius

(15,404 posts)
Wed May 10, 2023, 12:58 PM May 2023

Democratic US Senator Manchin says he will oppose all EPA nominees

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, May 10 (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. Senator Joe Manchin said on Wednesday he would oppose all nominees for Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) posts until President Joe Biden's administration halts what he described as its "radical climate agenda."

Manchin, who represents the coal-producing state West Virginia, delivered his ultimatum a day ahead of the EPA's planned roll-out on Thursday of its new carbon emission standards for new and existing power plants. He said he worried the rules could cripple coal- and gas-fired power plants.

"If the reports are true, the pending EPA proposal would impact nearly all fossil-fueled power plants in the United States, which generate about 60% of our electricity, without an adequate plan to replace the lost baseload generation," Manchin said in a statement.

The agency is expected to unveil power plant emission performance standards that will lean heavily on the deployment of carbon capture or hydrogen technology to clean up the electric sector, which accounts for a quarter of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democratic-us-senator-manchin-oppose-all-epa-nominees-statement-2023-05-10/

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Democratic US Senator Manchin says he will oppose all EPA nominees (Original Post) Polybius May 2023 OP
Isn't that a sorta blatant conflict of interest, given that he owns a coal company? NullTuples May 2023 #1
What do you suggest that he do instead? Polybius May 2023 #3
Not him; the Senate itself. NullTuples May 2023 #7
How many Senators would that leave us with? The Mouth May 2023 #12
"given that he owns a coal company", I'd say it's in no conflict to his interests. jaxexpat May 2023 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author xocetaceans May 2023 #2
Hydrogen? Where will we get hydrogen? truthisfreedom May 2023 #4
Hydrogen made with energy from coal plants, I suppose. tinrobot May 2023 #9
Self-serving POS n/t rustysgurl May 2023 #5
He's working for his constituents jimfields33 May 2023 #11
Working for his donors. He's consistently worked against his constituents. Zipgun May 2023 #25
He's working for himself, for his money made by selling waste coal . . . hatrack May 2023 #26
The idiot is bought and payed for. OverBurn May 2023 #6
With friends like these... maxsolomon May 2023 #8
"Elect more Democrats!"...lol. n/t Fix The Stupid May 2023 #10
Appoint an acting cab. member.. nt TeamProg May 2023 #13
He just can't get enough ignominy. dchill May 2023 #14
Go with acting directors ... dobleremolque May 2023 #15
That Would Be A Prudent Course Of Action MayReasonRule May 2023 #20
Post removed Post removed May 2023 #17
without a plan to replace the lost baseload generation..... since when is this EPA's responsibility? groundloop May 2023 #18
It is clear that Mr. Manchin is a DINO. Joinfortmill May 2023 #19
I Agree MayReasonRule May 2023 #21
Why doesn't he just say he opposes the EPA? SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #22
WTF? Manchin characterizes efforts to reduce carbon emissions and decrease the danger of severe Martin68 May 2023 #23
You're either with us, or against us Bayard May 2023 #24

Polybius

(15,404 posts)
3. What do you suggest that he do instead?
Wed May 10, 2023, 01:10 PM
May 2023

If he recuses himself and sits out the vote, he'd probably still get slammed. My suggestion is that he cashes out his coal stocks and then votes with us, but it's not gonna happen.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
7. Not him; the Senate itself.
Wed May 10, 2023, 01:30 PM
May 2023

They could choose to enforce Senate Suggestion - oh, sorry; "Rule" 37.5 or any of the others that strictly prohibit (without any real necessary consequence) conflicts of interest that undermine the legitimacy of the lawmaking body itself.

At the very least, it would make a big show and bring the topic to the attention of the American public for a few minutes.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
12. How many Senators would that leave us with?
Wed May 10, 2023, 01:55 PM
May 2023

No one cares with it's a Senator who votes the way they are happy with.

Response to Polybius (Original post)

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
4. Hydrogen? Where will we get hydrogen?
Wed May 10, 2023, 01:17 PM
May 2023

You can hardly pump it out of the ground. There’s a handful of wells, certainly not enough to power our needs. Generating hydrogen fuel from methane or electrolysis requires enormous amounts of energy, which makes it useless for generating power from a steam turbine plant. Why hydrogen is included in this discussion is beyond my capacity to comprehend.

tinrobot

(10,898 posts)
9. Hydrogen made with energy from coal plants, I suppose.
Wed May 10, 2023, 01:36 PM
May 2023

Manchin's coal-positive agenda is pretty transparent.

dobleremolque

(491 posts)
15. Go with acting directors ...
Wed May 10, 2023, 02:23 PM
May 2023

isn't that what Trump did? Trump was so busy firing those who wouldn't do his bidding, that some of the most critical agencies were run by acting directors during most of his term.

Response to Polybius (Original post)

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
18. without a plan to replace the lost baseload generation..... since when is this EPA's responsibility?
Wed May 10, 2023, 03:09 PM
May 2023

When I worked in industry the EPA set the rules and let industries figure out how to meet the standards. Corporations always bitched and moaned about having to meet new standards but they somehow managed to do it.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
22. Why doesn't he just say he opposes the EPA?
Wed May 10, 2023, 04:32 PM
May 2023

He opposes clean air to breathe.
He opposes clean water to drink.

Does he give a shit if we live?

Martin68

(22,800 posts)
23. WTF? Manchin characterizes efforts to reduce carbon emissions and decrease the danger of severe
Wed May 10, 2023, 04:55 PM
May 2023

climate change as a "radical climate agenda?" I would say more, but I need to abide by DU's guidelines.

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