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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:22 AM Nov 2012

Holder defends keeping Petraeus inquiry from White House until after election

Source: washington post

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Thursday defended the Justice Department’s handling of the investigation that led David H. Petraeus to resign as CIA director, saying that the department was right to keep the inquiry secret from the White House until after last week’s presidential election.

Holder’s first public comments on the controversy came as the CIA opened an internal inquiry of Petraeus’s conduct during his 14-month tenure as director. The move means that there are three active investigations related to a scandal that has scrambled President Obama’s national security team.

“What we did was conduct the investigation in the way we normally conduct a criminal investigation,” Holder said in a news conference in New Orleans.

He said the inquiry was handled “in an impartial way. We follow the facts. We do not share outside the Justice Department, outside the FBI, the facts of ongoing investigations.”

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/holder-defends-keeping-petraeus-inquiry-from-white-house-until-after-election/2012/11/15/76601d62-2f64-11e2-a30e-5ca76eeec857_singlePage.html

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Holder defends keeping Petraeus inquiry from White House until after election (Original Post) alp227 Nov 2012 OP
But don't you See? Fence rider Nov 2012 #1
You said it my friend! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #2
I don't get your comment. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #4
I have serious doubts about that. BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #7
Please proceed. n/t susanna Nov 2012 #9
You are making the same mistake as... SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #15
In order to think like a Republican davidpdx Nov 2012 #25
OK John2 Nov 2012 #3
The agent is currently out of service. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #5
You brought the key point. Wash. state Desk Jet Nov 2012 #6
The Senate Will look into that MisterScruffles Nov 2012 #10
Yes tavalon Nov 2012 #13
2% at $80,000,000-Kelly Wash. state Desk Jet Nov 2012 #19
Agent left the ranch, committed a crime by doing that Coyotl Nov 2012 #16
Good enough for me. David Zephyr Nov 2012 #8
When Eric Holder stands down and eliminates the drug war tavalon Nov 2012 #14
Don't blame Holder for adhering to the law as written. If he did not his ass would be grass. Coyotl Nov 2012 #17
I'm in Washington state tavalon Nov 2012 #20
It is the federal law that is important. former9thward Nov 2012 #21
We are so aware that this was and is just a shot across the bow tavalon Nov 2012 #22
Screw the WAPO, Eric Holder said involving the WH in any investigation isn't proper... DCKit Nov 2012 #11
I generally dislike Holder, but he's 100% correct. n/t JoeyT Nov 2012 #12
If they had notified the WH the Republicans would be screaming bloody murder. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #18
Exactly, because it would have been improper! Coyotl Nov 2012 #23
Holder needs to go Ash_F Nov 2012 #24

Fence rider

(48 posts)
1. But don't you See?
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:32 AM
Nov 2012

If only they had come out before they could blame Obama for a career officer's inability to keep his junk in his pants! I can see the headlines now "Obama allows General to carry on illicit affair,to cover up Libya,Yemen,his birth certificates and all this free shit he's giving out".
Get the full unbiased story on Fox News
What a joke they are!
We need to educate our children so this shit doesn't cloud their future!

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
4. I don't get your comment.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:00 AM
Nov 2012

If the Petraeus problem had been revealed before the election and Obama fired him it could have resulted in even more votes for him. He would be seen as tough, not a hypocrite, setting good standards, unafraid to do the right thing, on top of national security issues, cleaning out the old guard, etc. Probably would have resulted in more white males voting for the tough guy.

BouzoukiKing

(163 posts)
7. I have serious doubts about that.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:13 AM
Nov 2012

Truman didn't do so well firing MacArthur, did he? Throw race into the mix, and also how different the country is today.

"...tough, not a hypocrite, setting good standards, unafraid to do the right thing, on top of national security issues, cleaning out the old guard, etc." Are those things that play the same today, as they did in 1951? Truman's approval fell to the lowest (23%) of any sitting president ever - lower than Bush43 - because of his decision. Would Obama fare even that well?

Not that I know the answers to these questions.

But fortunately, the point is moot - and I'm happy with that.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
15. You are making the same mistake as...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:39 AM
Nov 2012

Many of my fellow Liberals make when it comes to many issues in America today...You can't think about issues from a rational POV you must think about them in the context of the typical American who thinks Generals are gods who do nothing wrong.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
25. In order to think like a Republican
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:12 AM
Nov 2012

You have to take two drops of acid and shave your tongue in the morning.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
3. OK
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:53 AM
Nov 2012

I'll give Eric Holder that,but I have one question to the Attorney General that I wish someone would ask him. If it was important not to inform the Executive Branch, then why did your FBI agent inform a Republican Congressman in the state of Washington and he in turn informed Eric Cantor? Shouldn't your FBI agent, even though he was told to stay away from the case get some kind of discipline for breaking the protocol? Can Eric Holder answer that question? Does he even have control of his own Department? You remember how some others went cowboy in your Department? It almost cost your job. He needs to gain more control over his Department.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
5. The agent is currently out of service.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:03 AM
Nov 2012

The agent probably violated the law and will pay for it. I really can't believe you are trying to blame Holder for this. JFTR - he is not the head of the FBI. Mueller is a Republican holdover.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
6. You brought the key point.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:08 AM
Nov 2012

The question is what did Romney know about it. When did Reichert the congressman become aware of the investigation- reports have it several months ago or summer time. Reichert to Cantor- time frame Oct. Cantor to Mueller - Oct. So the republican congressman knew months ago . This is not just a breach of protocal ,if Reichert knew months ago the question is did that knowledge leak out .

But the senate will look into that.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
19. 2% at $80,000,000-Kelly
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:35 PM
Nov 2012

Stands to reason there is a grand sham involved,the woman is a crook. Yes I think there will be long detailed senate investigation. There are most likely lies being told about the time line. Reichert as it seems knew about the case for months.

But they say Cantor put kelly in contact with Mueller in Oct. Are we or is the senate to except Reichert kept his knowledge of the investigation to himself ?

Is Romney not a lier and crook ?
Grant it if Kelly fooled 2 generals of ours- she most likely had no trouble at all fooling a glory seeking fbi agent.

The time line doesn't fit. My guess is key ranking members of the Republican side of congress were in on the inside track . That may mean Romney was on the inside track as well. But the president wasn't. hmmmmmmm.

This thing will drag on for some time to come. I think we may see some forced resignations in congress in the R sector.

At the very least it is a plesent thought.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
16. Agent left the ranch, committed a crime by doing that
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:01 PM
Nov 2012

Holder followed the rule of law, kept it in house, and the agent broke the rules for political reasons, to try to besmear the Obama Administration, because he was delusional.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
8. Good enough for me.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 04:17 AM
Nov 2012

I trust Eric Holder on this. He gets no credit and is attacked unfairly. He's a good man.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
14. When Eric Holder stands down and eliminates the drug war
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:24 AM
Nov 2012

I will call him a good man. Right now, he's a problem. On this specific thing, I think he was correct in holding the information until after the election.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
17. Don't blame Holder for adhering to the law as written. If he did not his ass would be grass.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:03 PM
Nov 2012

Don't like the law, change it!@! Don't blame the police for the laws, blame the legislators.

former9thward

(32,012 posts)
21. It is the federal law that is important.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:00 PM
Nov 2012

Even if the feds stop busting MM the IRS will still be there. If you in any type of business that has MJ involvement then at the end of the year when you sign your tax return you will be admitting a federal felony.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
22. We are so aware that this was and is just a shot across the bow
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:20 PM
Nov 2012

But it's pretty great that of the two states who stuck their middle fingers up at the Federal government, mine was one of them. The state has already dismissed a bunch of pending MJ cases.

Yes, this will make it's way, ever so slowly, to the supreme court, hopefully after Scalia has retired.

But Holder can and should take a hands off approach. Many in the past have and he hasn't.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
11. Screw the WAPO, Eric Holder said involving the WH in any investigation isn't proper...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 05:18 AM
Nov 2012

and I agree. The Republics would have something to go after our President if the WH did interfere in investigations.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
18. If they had notified the WH the Republicans would be screaming bloody murder.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:26 PM
Nov 2012

You KNOW they would be. Fukkers.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
23. Exactly, because it would have been improper!
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:20 AM
Nov 2012

D'oh. But hey, they live inside their own cognitive resonance bubble. What else can it be? No one can be that stupid, right?

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