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BumRushDaShow

(128,894 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 08:49 AM Jun 2023

Rep. Jim Jordan demands DOJ memo outlining scope of Trump probe

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, a top Trump ally, is calling on the Justice Department to provide lawmakers with internal documents laying out the scope of special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into the former president’s handling of classified documents found last year at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

In a letter first reported by NBC News, Jordan told Attorney General Merrick Garland that his committee was requesting “an unredacted copy of the memorandum outlining the scope of Mr. Smith’s probes regarding President Trump and any supporting documentation related to his appointment as special counsel.”

The letter from Jordan, one of Trump’s most ardent defenders on Capitol Hill, comes a day after attorneys for the former president met with Smith and others at Justice Department headquarters and the same week the grand jury investigating Trump’s handling of classified documents is expected to meet again.

Jordan, R-Ohio, said he is seeking the Justice Department documents by June 20. Congressional Republicans are ramping up pressure on the Justice Department over Smith’s probes into both the classified documents and allegations of Trump’s interference in the 2020 presidential election, which he still falsely claims was tainted by fraud.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-jim-jordan-demands-doj-memo-outlining-scope-trump-probe-rcna87849



He's violating this -

18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees

Whoever, with intent to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct compliance, in whole or in part, with any civil investigative demand duly and properly made under the Antitrust Civil Process Act, willfully withholds, misrepresents, removes from any place, conceals, covers up, destroys, mutilates, alters, or by other means falsifies any documentary material, answers to written interrogatories, or oral testimony, which is the subject of such demand; or attempts to do so or solicits another to do so; or

Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.


considering that his Congressional "inquiry" into this criminal matter being carried out by the Executive branch is improper (IMHO).
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Rep. Jim Jordan demands DOJ memo outlining scope of Trump probe (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 OP
Nope. That's privileged work product. no_hypocrisy Jun 2023 #1
All he has to do BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #6
He acts now like an accessory after the fact to distract from his being an earlier aider & abetter. ancianita Jun 2023 #15
I see him doing this as one of the ones doing this - BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #18
Good characterization. ancianita Jun 2023 #19
He is building up quite a history of obstructing valid criminal investigations BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #21
I hear ya. He thinks his official status somehow will justify his actions. ancianita Jun 2023 #30
He's creating more... 2naSalit Jun 2023 #23
Trying to keep that pot stirred even though there is nothing in that pot. efhmc Jun 2023 #8
Well..imo that's mierda they're stirring. Can imagine El corrupt criminale RestoreAmerica2020 Jun 2023 #34
What's That Elegant Legal Phrase So Often Employed In Cases Such As This? "Lick My Balls"? MayReasonRule Jun 2023 #36
Separation of powers, which Jordan probably missed that class, and why he never took or passed the JohnSJ Jun 2023 #2
Education is "woke".................... Lovie777 Jun 2023 #4
Yup JohnSJ Jun 2023 #9
Of no import. Just ignore him. brush Jun 2023 #3
Gymshorts wants to see if his name is on any of the receipts UpInArms Jun 2023 #5
"Gymshorts wants to see if his name is on any of the receipts" Yup! Botany Jun 2023 #35
That pos definitely needs to see the inside of some bars UpInArms Jun 2023 #44
I'm just out of ways to say Gym should fuck all the way off. The lack of self-awareness is Comfortably_Numb Jun 2023 #7
Just one more R effort to demonize any agency going after TFG. Good luck, dillrods! machoneman Jun 2023 #10
Sorry GymBo - go sit at the kids table. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2023 #11
I think there's a restraining order against that. 600 feet if I'm not mistaken. bluesbassman Jun 2023 #40
Good one. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2023 #47
The crooks are panicking. C_U_L8R Jun 2023 #12
Don't they call it "getting buggy" ? Captain Zero Jun 2023 #39
Definitely WiVoter Jun 2023 #52
Congressman Karen demanding to speak to the manager Walleye Jun 2023 #13
"Can't touch this!!"..(MC Hammer)... agingdem Jun 2023 #14
hmm.. speculating and wondering, if this demand was a factor in the decision to impanel gj in Fl. msfiddlestix Jun 2023 #16
I don't think so.. agingdem Jun 2023 #32
Let's see Jordan's email and phone records for coordination with Trump and Trump's attorneys instead Freethinker65 Jun 2023 #17
Spot on KS Toronado Jun 2023 #26
Send Gym the documents pertaining to the part of the investigation that outlines HIS involvement SledDriver Jun 2023 #20
Trying to deflect attention from his J6 conversations with Hair Fuehrer bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #22
Law School Grad??? jonstl08 Jun 2023 #24
He never even signed up to take the bar exam. Haggis 4 Breakfast Jun 2023 #51
Capital University ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #53
Give him enough rope randr Jun 2023 #25
Shouldn't he be busy ignoring years of sex abuse somewhere? Orrex Jun 2023 #27
Oh, fuck jordan! joshdawg Jun 2023 #28
"Jim Jordan demands ..." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2023 #29
"You are in a position to demand nothing. I, on the other hand, are in a position to grand nothing." Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #31
Ironic...Jim Jordan seems to ALWAYS forget a face...especially wrestling coaches. Moostache Jun 2023 #37
Oooooooooh the Overcompensation Dude. calimary Jun 2023 #33
He coached wrestling at Ohio State ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #54
RW nuts like jordan are the reason garland appointed a special prosecutor! PortTack Jun 2023 #38
You can tell that Gym Jordan did not pass the bar exam LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #41
WTF ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #55
who can arrest barbtries Jun 2023 #42
What Gym is betting on is Garland being too chicken to charge him with obstruction Novara Jun 2023 #43
Someone needs to tell Gym to go fuck himself. Vinca Jun 2023 #45
28 months and counting republianmushroom Jun 2023 #46
Need to find a outhouse deep enough to bury Obstruction of Justice Gym LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #48
does this guy EVER do any actual, real WORK Skittles Jun 2023 #49
His jacket definitely does the work BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #50
I love the Jim Jordan's Missing Jacket twitter feed LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #58
Work is for the inferiors ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #56
Gym Jordan wants to help TFG's defense team LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #57
LOCK UP GYM !!!! Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offe Trueblue1968 Jun 2023 #59

BumRushDaShow

(128,894 posts)
6. All he has to do
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 08:56 AM
Jun 2023

is look at the affidavit and inventory of items seized last August to know WHY there is even a case.

He must know something is coming down imminently and thus being a part of the criminal cabal, he has joined in with the rest of the insurrection defenders who are circling the wagons.

ancianita

(36,030 posts)
15. He acts now like an accessory after the fact to distract from his being an earlier aider & abetter.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 09:21 AM
Jun 2023

It's laughable. Circling the wagons won't help them.

BumRushDaShow

(128,894 posts)
18. I see him doing this as one of the ones doing this -
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 09:31 AM
Jun 2023


to desperately try to stave off the final round up of the criminals.

ancianita

(36,030 posts)
19. Good characterization.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 09:33 AM
Jun 2023

It's just that arrested development that's got Republicans used as oligarchic dark money tools.

Your post on the law is great, thanks. It's just the intent part of this demand that he can deny. If the DOJ has evidence of his (or his colleagues') intent, they will have done this nation a great service.

BumRushDaShow

(128,894 posts)
21. He is building up quite a history of obstructing valid criminal investigations
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 09:56 AM
Jun 2023

whether state or now federal.

So far that I have seen, I don't think he has tried to mess with NY AG Letitia James' fraud case against 45, which has a trial that will be the first of all of the most serious ones, this coming October. Maybe because of the "criminal" vs "civil" distinction where the fraud one is "civil" (he seemed to also stay away from the E. Jean Carroll case too).

Meaning I expect he is already trying to come up with some way to obstruct Fani Willis for her GA state investigation (which is "criminal" ).

ancianita

(36,030 posts)
30. I hear ya. He thinks his official status somehow will justify his actions.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 10:49 AM
Jun 2023

Excellent points about who he does/doesn't tangle with. Thank you.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
34. Well..imo that's mierda they're stirring. Can imagine El corrupt criminale
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 11:14 AM
Jun 2023

.accused sexual abuser y odious traitor y fucking racist, bigoted fascist calling in his markers and shouting--DO SOMETHIINNNGGG! He's a fucking lloron!


Mierda: shite
Y: pron: ee; def.and
lloron: fucking cry baby

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
36. What's That Elegant Legal Phrase So Often Employed In Cases Such As This? "Lick My Balls"?
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 11:21 AM
Jun 2023


Probably varies a bit, but I expect as much in the response from DOJ. Which is as it ought to be.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
35. "Gymshorts wants to see if his name is on any of the receipts" Yup!
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 11:17 AM
Jun 2023

Gym seemed to be more than "a little nervous" in answering questions about J-6th and the timing of his
speaking w/Trump on on that date.




BTW I hope Jack Smith files an obstruction charge on Gym. He has zero right to see Jack Smith and company's
work.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
44. That pos definitely needs to see the inside of some bars
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 12:34 PM
Jun 2023

And I don’t mean the ones that serve up alcohol

Comfortably_Numb

(3,804 posts)
7. I'm just out of ways to say Gym should fuck all the way off. The lack of self-awareness is
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 08:57 AM
Jun 2023

remarkable, even for a disgusting piece of shit magat like Gym jerkoff.

bluesbassman

(19,371 posts)
40. I think there's a restraining order against that. 600 feet if I'm not mistaken.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 11:46 AM
Jun 2023

At least that's what everybody is saying.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
14. "Can't touch this!!"..(MC Hammer)...
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 09:19 AM
Jun 2023

Gymbo…you are precisely the reason Garland appointed a special counsel to oversee the J6/stolen documents investigations….he saw you coming!…

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
16. hmm.. speculating and wondering, if this demand was a factor in the decision to impanel gj in Fl.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 09:26 AM
Jun 2023

Did Garland direct Smith to impanel the GJ in Florida in order to fend off attacks that the jury is "rigged" with "haters" ?

or is it just a coincidence?

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
32. I don't think so..
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 11:04 AM
Jun 2023

this is Jordan scared shitless, desperate to know what the DOJ has on him and his involvement in the January 6 insurrection ...

SledDriver

(2,059 posts)
20. Send Gym the documents pertaining to the part of the investigation that outlines HIS involvement
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 09:52 AM
Jun 2023

Or better yet, leak them to the media.

jonstl08

(412 posts)
24. Law School Grad???
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 10:20 AM
Jun 2023

What Law School did he graduate from? Not a lawyer but this is all politics. He has to know the DOJ cannot give in to him due to the ongoing investigation. Oh Wait he did not pass the bar exam so maybe he does not know.

If I was the law school I would publicly disavow him.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
53. Capital University
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:10 AM
Jun 2023

Ranked #175 among all law schools.

Which is Tier 4. It doesn't take much to get into one of those. Or to complete their "program."

29. "Jim Jordan demands ..."
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 10:43 AM
Jun 2023

Might as well set that as a permanent headline. God forbid he contributes anything worthwhile to the discussion.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
31. "You are in a position to demand nothing. I, on the other hand, are in a position to grand nothing."
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 10:52 AM
Jun 2023

Khan Noonien Singh, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.



(One of my favorite lines in one of my favorite movies of all time)

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
37. Ironic...Jim Jordan seems to ALWAYS forget a face...especially wrestling coaches.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 11:22 AM
Jun 2023

Star Trek II is a classic. Of all the Star Trek movies made, it is my favorite followed by First Contact.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
33. Oooooooooh the Overcompensation Dude.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 11:12 AM
Jun 2023

The LITTLE Overcompensation Dude.

I read somewhere that he was on the wrestling team or coached wrestling in earlier years. Overcompensating for not being very tall.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
54. He coached wrestling at Ohio State
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:12 AM
Jun 2023

Where he got into hot water for ignoring sexual abuse of athletes under his watch.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
55. WTF
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:35 AM
Jun 2023

"Trump’s outside legal team is taking cues from Jim Jordan, adopting many of his arguments and even asking a federal judge to obtain documents from Jordan to build their legal case against Democrats’ myriad investigations targeting the president."

Did any of these clowns attend law school at all?

They can get some documents from the prosecution to build their case. Not all, but not an insubstantial amount, either. It's called discovery. File the necessary motions to get the documents, and what you can't get, well, too bad. Deal with it and move on. Sheesh.

The defense can also get documents from sympathetic witnesses that they need to build cases. They don't even have to go through a judge for it. The witness can voluntarily cough it up. So why would they need to go through a federal judge to get information from Gymbo, if he's already on their side? Have his boss make a call, get what you want from him. Well, if he's legally allowed to have it, you can get it. And you better let the prosecution know you have such information, because discovery works both ways.

I suspect that all this whining about getting something from Gymbo is nothing but a desperate straw-grab to get something they couldn't get through even the generous bounds of discovery.

I'm an idiot, and I know this much about law.

Novara

(5,841 posts)
43. What Gym is betting on is Garland being too chicken to charge him with obstruction
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 12:17 PM
Jun 2023

I hope he isn't right. But I fear he may be.

By making a huge-ass stink about it now, if Garland were to charge him with that statute (thank you for providing it), it will "look" like retaliation. I'm afraid Garland will fall for it.

BumRushDaShow

(128,894 posts)
50. His jacket definitely does the work
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 06:54 PM
Jun 2023



Jim Jordan’s Missing Jacket
@JimJordanJacket
·
Follow
Old man who couldn’t pass the bar exam doesn’t know how laws work.
Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
President Trump did nothing wrong and his home was raided.

Rachael Rollins, a Biden appointed U.S. Attorney, lied to investigators and may have improperly sought to influence an election, but Merrick Garland refused to prosecute.

Americans are tired of the double standard.
2:17 PM · May 24, 2023


 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
56. Work is for the inferiors
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:38 AM
Jun 2023

You're an inferior if you are not:

Rich

White

Straight

christian

Right wing

Male.

That's always been the traitor party mantra.

Trueblue1968

(17,210 posts)
59. LOCK UP GYM !!!! Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offe
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 08:40 AM
Jun 2023

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.

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