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BumRushDaShow

(128,917 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:34 PM Jun 2023

Trump seeks new trial or reduced damages in E. Jean Carroll sexual abuse case

Source: CBS News

Donald Trump is asking a federal court to order a new trial in the civil case brought by the writer E. Jean Carroll or to reduce the damages awarded to her by a jury that found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation. The former president's attorneys argued in a filing on Thursday that the $5 million verdict was "grossly excessive."

Carroll accused Trump of attacking her in a department store changing room during a chance encounter in the mid-1990s, and then of defaming her after she went public with the story in 2019. Trump's attorneys argued in the new filing that a $2 million portion of the award was excessive because the jury did not find him liable for rape.

Trump has denied assaulting Carroll and claimed her story was fabricated. She testified that they had been amiably walking through the store, joking during a light conversation, before Trump pushed her against a wall, her head slamming against it, and forcefully penetrated her with his hand and penis.

Trump's attorneys claimed $2.7 million in compensatory damages for defamation were based on "speculation" about how many people viewed a defamatory social media post by Trump in which he denied the allegation. The filing also claims the remaining punitive damages related to the defamation were awarded "without due process." Roberta Kaplan, an attorney for Carroll, said in a statement to CBS News that Trump is trying to argue Carroll doesn't "deserve" the damages awarded to her, "even if he did those things."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-e-jean-carroll-new-trial-reduced-damages/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=218943210

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Trump seeks new trial or reduced damages in E. Jean Carroll sexual abuse case (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 OP
Nope. forgotmylogin Jun 2023 #1
That's going to be hard to win wryter2000 Jun 2023 #2
Infinitely litigious. maxsolomon Jun 2023 #3
It's why few even bothered (although they should have) BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #6
Roy Cohn and Fred taught him well. Capone was an earlier rendition. Let's hope it ends the same. nt Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #8
Hear hear! BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #11
"He is a cancer on the body politic." You hit the nail on its head. riversedge Jun 2023 #17
STFU TFG! There's awful political blood on the kid gloves Backseat Driver Jun 2023 #4
The more he drags this case out the more he risks something criminal he might cstanleytech Jun 2023 #5
TDFG got off cheap and he's still squawking. bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #7
New trial OR reduced damages? yonder Jun 2023 #9
So he wants to adjust the damages downward Cadfael Jun 2023 #10
He says it didn't happen she had his DNA though IIRC. live love laugh Jun 2023 #12
Which wife does he think she is now? Or daughter? keithbvadu2 Jun 2023 #13
A real Billionaire would have paid the 5 million and moved on. sarcasmo Jun 2023 #14
OK... anyone else find this funny MissMillie Jun 2023 #15
Oh, absolutely! Any plan they may have of distracting Hortensis Jun 2023 #20
Carroll lawyer: "Trump did not put on a single witness of his own."... riversedge Jun 2023 #16
said no multi billionaire, ever. newdayneeded Jun 2023 #18
Grasping at straws, isn't he? Pathetic. thatcrowwoman Jun 2023 #19

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
1. Nope.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:41 PM
Jun 2023

He didn't even bother to attend the last one. Why should he get a do-over? The "due process" he's seeking already happened.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
3. Infinitely litigious.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:50 PM
Jun 2023

Since he uses other people's money for legal fees, there's not one thing in the world to stop him.

He is a cancer on the body politic. Worst person in America.

BumRushDaShow

(128,917 posts)
6. It's why few even bothered (although they should have)
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:57 PM
Jun 2023

to see their suits against him all the way through. It literally became a resource (people and money) drain on both the state and federal criminal law enforcement agencies.

And unfortunately, as we see what happens when the cases are pursued to attempt to get them to some final conclusion, the delays generated by their gaming the "due process system", are causing people to believe and assert that "nothing is being done".

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
4. STFU TFG! There's awful political blood on the kid gloves
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 03:52 PM
Jun 2023

we've been forced to wear investigating your endless maliciousness. So egrecious was that judgement of which you now complain that your undisciplined mouth went right out and did it again. Just STFU - whatever's coming to you is well deserved! I'd agree with a few more indictments far worse than those already adjudicated or processed and investigated based on your amoral behavior set in the worst self-serving narcissism we endlessley endure as abusive among almost all global leaders(?). You just can't seem to accept reality and need to be institutionalized until you can accept your own criminal behaviors at trial and the guilty charges for which there is legal consequences lots stiffer than the few million you now need to pay that woman! The no good that men do live after them and are oft interred with their bones; your tiny fingertips, though, just won't go away, and everything you touch...well I can't say it!

There's a lesson here too for those that would procrastinate on taking action on what's right and true...our anticipation doesn't mix well with our patience...rant over

bucolic_frolic

(43,148 posts)
7. TDFG got off cheap and he's still squawking.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:11 PM
Jun 2023

Stormy got bought off a few years later, and it was consensual. This lady suffered for years, not knowing if she'd ever see a courtroom.

yonder

(9,664 posts)
9. New trial OR reduced damages?
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:31 PM
Jun 2023

Wouldn’t that one or the other aspect in his proposal show that neither one is valid for consideration?

“I want a new trial but would settle for a lesser award” doesn’t show the first trial was flawed somehow, making a new trial unnecessary. Likewise, “I don’t want to pay but would settle for a new trial” doesn’t show the award was excessive making an adjustment unnecessary. It's like both claims together, cancel themselves out, which makes his point moot.

Just spitballing here.

Cadfael

(1,296 posts)
10. So he wants to adjust the damages downward
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 04:32 PM
Jun 2023

Based on the number of people who viewed his social media posts?!? Yet another case of inflate the numbers to make himself look important and deflate the numbers to reduce his exposure, just like his property values.

MissMillie

(38,555 posts)
15. OK... anyone else find this funny
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:42 PM
Jun 2023

Blowhard brags for YEARS about how popular his tweets are, and now he's claiming he shouldn't have to pay so much in damages because maybe so many people didn't see his defamatory tweet.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Oh, absolutely! Any plan they may have of distracting
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 08:48 AM
Jun 2023

public attention away from prosecution under the Espionage Act to his self-continued litigation with a partner from the sex industry who didn't stay bought is also worth a chuckle.

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
16. Carroll lawyer: "Trump did not put on a single witness of his own."...
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 05:45 PM
Jun 2023

Trump had his chance, but did not take advantage of it. damn!!


..........Roberta Kaplan, an attorney for Carroll, said in a statement to CBS News that Trump is trying to argue Carroll doesn't "deserve" the damages awarded to her, "even if he did those things."

"Trump's arguments are frivolous," Kaplan said. "The jury carefully considered the evidence that Ms. Carroll presented, and Trump did not put on a single witness of his own. This time, Trump will not be able to escape the consequences of his actions."

Carroll's attorneys argued during the eight-day trial that her allegations against Trump fit with what they called Trump's "modus operandi." In addition to witnesses who said Carroll confided in them after the incident, the jury heard from two other women who described Trump suddenly turning casual confrontations into sexual misconduct. They also watched the "Access Hollywood" video clip that emerged during the 2016 campaign, in which Trump could be heard crudely describing grabbing women by their genitals.


Trump has also appealed the verdict and continues to vehemently deny the allegations. Carroll amended a separate, previously filed defamation lawsuit, seeking at least $10 million in new damages. She claimed comments Trump made at a televised town hall — the day after the jury found him liable — were also disparaging.

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
18. said no multi billionaire, ever.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:05 PM
Jun 2023

this would equate to having to pay 18 cents out of a hundred dollar bill, based on his supposed wealth. In other words, even his wealth amount is total bullshit.

thatcrowwoman

(1,229 posts)
19. Grasping at straws, isn't he? Pathetic.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 08:25 AM
Jun 2023

His life is catching up with him, close as Jack Smith in his side-view mirror.

There’s a reckoning coming and I think it’s finally beginning to dawn on him. I’m pretty sure June will bring enough straws to break him, no camel necessary.

Truth and Justice about to shine a bright light on 45. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.
The whole world is watching. Tick tock.


🕊thatcrowwoman
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