Trump addresses reason he refused to give back boxes saying they contained 'shoes and shirts and eve

[riversedge]

Source: msn.com



Trump addresses reason he refused to give back boxes saying they contained ‘shoes and shirts and everything’


Abe Asher • 1h ago



Former President Donald Trump has finally addressed the reason he allegedly failed to return boxes of classified documents to the federal government: he’d put his clothes in them.

“Many people have asked me why I had these boxes, why did you want them?” Mr Trump said to supporters at his golf club in Bedminster on Tuesday evening. “The answer, in addition to having every right under the Presidential Records Act, is that these boxes were containing all types of personal belongings — many, many things, shirts and shoes, everything.”On Tuesday, after his arraignment, that changed. Mr Trump unleashed a barrage of false accusations during his address to supporters in New Jersey, including that a widely-disseminated photograph of boxes piled up in a bathroom at Mar-a-Lago were staged. He also accused “someone, not me” of dumping the contents of one of the boxes onto the floor.

Mr Trump then said that he would have gone through the boxes, presumably to weed out the highly classified material from the contents of his wardrobe and memorabilia, but hadn’t gotten around to it yet.

“I hadn’t had a chance to go through all the boxes,” Mr Trump said. “It’s a long tedious job, it takes a long time — which I was prepared to do, but I have a very busy life. I’ve had a very busy life.” ..............................................................................................





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[LetMyPeopleVote]

1. TFG's claims are all false and have been debunked by National Archives

This press release was released after the indictment and makes clear that all of TFG's claims about complying with the Presidential Records Act are false

Link to tweet

https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001#June-9-2023-statement

June 9, 2023, statement
Recent media reports have generated a large number of queries about Presidential records and the Presidential Records Act (PRA), 44 U.S.C. 2201-2209. The PRA requires that all records created by Presidents (and Vice-Presidents) be turned over to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) at the end of their administrations. Below is additional information about how NARA carries out its responsibilities under the PRA. Please note that the PRA treats the records of the President and those of the Vice President in almost the same manner such that, in most cases below, President and Vice President can be used interchangeably.


How much time do outgoing Presidents have to go through their papers to determine what to retain as personal documents?

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b). The PRA makes clear that, upon the conclusion of the President’s term in office, NARA assumes responsibility for the custody, control, preservation of, and access to the records of a President. 44 U.S.C. 2203(g)(1). The PRA makes the legal status of Presidential records clear and unambiguous, providing that the United States reserves and retains “complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” 44 U.S.C. 2202. There is no history, practice, or provision in law for presidents to take official records with them when they leave office to sort through, such as for a two-year period as described in some reports. If a former President or Vice President finds Presidential records among personal materials, he or she is expected to contact NARA in a timely manner to secure the transfer of those Presidential records to NARA. ...

How are documents in the White House determined to be an official Presidential record or a personal record?

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) defines what constitutes “Presidential records” and what are “personal records.” 44 U.S.C. 2201. Personal records include “diaries, journals, or other personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business.”

The PRA also requires that all documentary materials “be categorized as Presidential records or personal records upon their creation or receipt and be filed separately.” 44 U.S.C. 2203(b). The President does not have discretion to categorize a Presidential record as a personal record. ....

What are “Presidential records” under the Presidential Records Act (PRA)?

"’Presidential records’ means documentary materials created or received by the President, the President’s immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise or assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.”

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. Useful clarifying post. Thank you. . . . nt

[Skittles]

2. HOW does The Onion stay in business

HOW!?!?!?!?!

[C Moon]

4. HA HA! The first thing I looked at when I opened the post was if it was from the Onion or Borowitz

[Richard D]

28. A movie script like this . . .

. . . would be laughed out of Hollywood. It's so absurd as to be near impossible.

[Lulu KC]

35. lol

[C_U_L8R]

3. Bullshit.

You stole nuclear secrets and defied a subpoena to return them. And lied numerous times. You are going to prison.

[Blue Owl]

5. Because most billionaires use cheap cardboard boxes to carry their clothes in

[orleans]

6. yeah, i hear he's had a very busy life

he started out as a pot stirrer & got promoted. now he works as a shit-stirrer. he's really busy shit stirring; nobody does it better. they even gave him a plaque

[KS Toronado]

9. His very busy life is golfing.

[Canoe52]

7. Reminds me of this scene from the "Blues Brothers"

[NJCher]

16. This is it!

Exactly. He’s down to excuse #4,367 and if anyone buys it, it will be take it easy, baby.

Perfect.

[Solly Mack]

8. I know I pack my underwear in my important papers box. Doesn't everyone?

Snort.

[Judi Lynn]

11. Those boxes are also great places for temporary clothes hampers. 🌹🌷💐

[Solly Mack]

23. And empty ketchup bottles.

[Lulu KC]

34. lol

[Judi Lynn]

10. When he was pretending to be a President in Washington, he spent hours a day watching tv news

and never showed up in his office for hours. This was his schedule. He wanted to hear and see everything everyone was saying about him first.

He has never been really busy because he has never had to do anything.

[riversedge]

22. like he did on Jan 6 while his goons broke into the capitol for hours!!

[Kablooie]

12. We laugh ...

But Republicans solemnly nod their heads and say:
See? He has a perfectly fine reason. He’s not guilty at all.

[Elessar Zappa]

14. Of course his base will always support him.

But independents won’t and they’ll be the key to a Biden win. Barring an economic collapse, Trump doesn’t stand a chance.

[EarthFirst]

13. I'm sure someone with credentials to pack up the residence quarters in the White House

…is haphazardly stuffing document boxes with shoes and shirts.

[mwb970]

15. He sounds like a 14-year-old boy making incredibly lame excuses to his father.

[NJCher]

17. Indeed

The excuses get lamer and lamer when just through sheer practice they should be getting better and better.

[crickets]

42. I was thinking 5-year-old, but 14 works. nt

[DFW]

18. Those have to be the most highly classified shirts and shoes anywhere

The FSB must going crazy trying to find the top secret info hidden between the leather soles of those classified shoes.

[bucolic_frolic]

20. "I have a very busy life. I've had a very busy life."

Nice that we're moving toward the past tense.

[TexasTowelie]

21. How many rounds of golf has TFG played since he left the White House?

He should have put more time into sorting than putting.

[Vinca]

24. That's a seriously dumb excuse. But, then . . .

[Ray Bruns]

25. I know when I am moving, I always get my clothes and my classified documents all mixed together.

It happens to everyone, right? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

[gab13by13]

26. If this turns out to be a valid excuse,

drug dealers will be happy to know they can't be arrested if they mix the drugs in with something else.

You can't arrest me, I was shipping coffee, don't know how the cocaine got mixed in.

[muriel_volestrangler]

31. Surfboards.

International drugs ring smuggled cocaine in surfboards

Police in Uruguay say they have broken up an international drugs ring which smuggled cocaine from South America to Europe hidden inside surfboards.

With help from counter-narcotics police in Spain, Portugal and Italy, three Italian citizens were arrested.

Sniffer dogs had alerted officers in Uruguay to six surfboards containing a total of 50kg (110lb) of cocaine.

Police allowed one board to be dispatched in order to track down those receiving it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-65902483

[intrepidity]

27. Two things

1) the haphazard nature of those boxes---mixed random contents---perfectly reflects his inner state of chaos and disorder, and

2) the mixing of stolen docs in with his personal effects was deliberate, so that it appeared innocent while also providing the excuse he just used.

He may be an idiot but he's no dummy; he functions exactly like a mob boss when it comes to plausible deniability.

He should be known as "The Gaslighter-in-Chief."

[Novara]

29. Every day a new excuse!

[muriel_volestrangler]

30. "Plus, a neighbor's dog came in and ate the return address! I had no idea where to send them to."

[Lulu KC]

36. lol

[sinkingfeeling]

32. Is this excuse eleven or twelve? I've lost count.

[tanyev]

33. "They came running up to me with tears in their eyes,

saying, 'Sir, there's no more room in your suitcase!' So I told them to throw everything else in the boxes with the nuclear secrets. They were only half-full. IS THAT A CRIME??!?"

[IronLionZion]

37. My shoes and shirts always look like papers

it's a problem when it rains

[ShazzieB]

46. 😄😁😆

Perfect! The smarmy grin on that guy's face is the frosting on the cake.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

38. I am sure his concern was that HazMat teams didn't have Top Secret clearance...

... to remove the soiled socks, clothes, peed on ties and Depends mixed in with it all...

[truthisfreedom]

39. Couldn't be bothered. "I'm more important than everyone."

“You should be familiar with this by now. I don’t have time for little people stuff.”

[republianmushroom]

40. 28 months and counting

[BWdem4life]

44. I think I'm gonna add myself to the list

of 95% of DUers who have put you on ignore. The indictment and arraignment have now happened and all you are doing is continung to beat a dead horse.

[republianmushroom]

45. OK

[Grasswire2]

41. Hello? Valet? Hello?

That's what a valet might do.

Frickin' liar.

[Jarqui]

43. As others like Weissmann have said:

chatter like Trump utters here is basically a freely given, public confession of facts that can be used against him in the FL criminal court case where he is already in very serious trouble.

Ignoring all his other alleged criminal or otherwise transgressions or lies, I would add :
This jackass is incapable of following his experts (lawyers) advice for keeping his mouth shut.
As such, this behavior alone is so unbelievably stupid and undisciplined in these circumstances, it should be disqualifying for anyone who seeks the Oval Office.

Sadly, a significant percentage of the country is so blind and ignorant, in significant part due to the media they are subjected to, they'll never grasp that. The blind leading the blind.

[Wonder Why]

47. I believe, Lord Donald. I believe! Hallelujah! Lord Donald has spoken

yet another lie the Rupugs will look at and fall all over themselves saying "it proves he is innocent".

Sorry, Don. There's nothing left in my stomach to vomit up tonight. You'll have to wait until tomorrow for my reaction.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

48. Including his shit-stained underwear?