Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
Sun Oct 8, 2023, 06:39 PM Oct 2023

Israel UN envoy decries 'war crimes,' UN Security Council meets

Source: Reuters

NEW YORK, Oct 8 (Reuters) - Israel's ambassador to the United Nations on Sunday accused Palestinian Islamist group Hamas of war crimes, vowing that it was time to "obliterate Hamas terror infrastructure," as the U.N. Security Council met to discuss the conflict.

In a dramatic assault launched from the Palestinian enclave of Gaza on Saturday, Hamas militants stormed into Israeli towns, killing more than 600 people and escaping with dozens of hostages, in the deadliest day for Israel since the 1973 war.

"These are war crimes, blatant documented war crimes," said Israeli U.N. Ambassador Gilad Erdan ahead of the closed-door meeting of the 15-member Security Council meeting.

"The era of reasoning with these savages is over," he told reporters. "Now is the time to obliterate Hamas terror infrastructure, to completely erase it, so that such horrors are never committed again."



Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-un-envoy-decries-war-crimes-vows-obliterate-hamas-2023-10-08/

4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Israel UN envoy decries 'war crimes,' UN Security Council meets (Original Post) ificandream Oct 2023 OP
Targeting civilians sure is. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #1
yep. israel's been doing it for decades so they know its a war crime nt msongs Oct 2023 #2
NO! They have NOT been intentionally shooting to kill civilians. That is exactly what Hamas has JohnSJ Oct 2023 #3
Shooting and targeting are two different things. crickets Oct 2023 #4
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
3. NO! They have NOT been intentionally shooting to kill civilians. That is exactly what Hamas has
Sun Oct 8, 2023, 08:10 PM
Oct 2023

done, including Palestinians who who aligned with Abbas

crickets

(26,168 posts)
4. Shooting and targeting are two different things.
Mon Oct 9, 2023, 03:32 AM
Oct 2023

Try a web search for "Israeli demolition of Palestinian properties" - here's a sample of some results.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_demolition_of_Palestinian_property
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/10/collective-punishment-israel-demolishes-palestinian-homes

I decry what Hamas is doing, but everyday Palestinians are not being treated properly by the Israeli government.


https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution

International criminal law has developed two crimes against humanity for situations of systematic discrimination and repression: apartheid and persecution. Crimes against humanity stand among the most odious crimes in international law. [snip]

The crime against humanity of persecution, also set out in the Rome Statute, the intentional and severe deprivation of fundamental rights on racial, ethnic, and other grounds, grew out of the post-World War II trials and constitutes one of the most serious international crimes, of the same gravity as apartheid. [snip]

The term apartheid has increasingly been used in relation to Israel and the OPT [Occupied Palestinian Territory], but usually in a descriptive or comparative, non-legal sense, and often to warn that the situation is heading in the wrong direction. In particular, Israeli, Palestinian, US, and European officials, prominent media commentators, and others have asserted that, if Israel’s policies and practices towards Palestinians continued along the same trajectory, the situation, at least in the West Bank, would become tantamount to apartheid.[1] Some have claimed that the current reality amounts to apartheid.[2] Few, however, have conducted a detailed legal analysis based on the international crimes of apartheid or persecution.[3]

In this report, Human Rights Watch examines the extent to which that threshold has already been crossed in certain of the areas where Israeli authorities exercise control.



Israel's government does not have clean hands in this. The entire situation is a heartbreaking, ugly mess and I claim no wisdom in how it should be handled, but how it has been handled up to now... is not right. And it's now blown up entirely, with innocent civilians caught in the middle. It's horrifying.

If only Jimmy Carter were not so near the end of his days. I don't know who else could possibly convince both sides to stop, talk, and find some common ground for peace. It would be wonderful if Joe Biden once again stunned everyone by pulling a political miracle out of his hat, but it's so much to ask in this case, I won't hold my breath.

My heart goes out to all affected by this. 😔

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Israel UN envoy decries '...