Hundreds of migrants dropped off in New Jersey, bypassing New York City restrictions

[Polybius]

Source: CNN

Transit points in New Jersey have been used by buses to evade new rules aimed at curbing the massive numbers of arrivals in New York City. This weekend, at least four buses stopped at the Secaucus Junction train station in New Jersey, according to a news release from Secaucus’ mayor.

“From what we understand after being dropped at the train station the migrants then took trains to New York City,” Michael Gonnelli said. “At this point in time it seems train tickets are being secured for the migrants and they have been making their way to their final destination.”

It appeared “bus operators have figured out a loophole in the system in order to ensure the migrants reach their final destination, which is New York City,” he said.

The arrivals in the New York area come as US-Mexico border authorities in December encountered more than 225,000 migrants, the highest monthly total recorded since 2000, according to preliminary Homeland Security statistics shared with CNN.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/02/us/new-jersey-migrant-buses-nyc/index.html

[MichMan]

1. Impound the trains

[NotMissD]

3. Not sure who would have the authority to do this

It is interesting that they chose to continue to NY rather than staying in NJ. Which has the exact same climate, and cheaper cost of living. From what I watched in the Sopranos.

[thatdemguy]

17. I would bet its New Yorks shelter laws

In New York, they have to provide you shelter and food and some health care. If I dropped you off 10 miles away from some where that had to give you housing, food and some medical care, and I gave you the train ticket to get there, what would you do?

[jvill]

21. Their families and networks...

… are in NY.

[IbogaProject]

28. NJ doesn't have the automatic right to shelter

Only NY has that and it will end up amended or revised to only cover legal immigrants and citizens.

[jvill]

22. How does impounding NJTransit trains help..?

Will certainly do a good job of driving up animosity against migrants amongst the NJ commuters tho…

[Igel]

24. Yeah, impound PATH.

Let the state governments impound state government property. So much for public NJ-NYC public transit.

[Srkdqltr]

2. I wonder if it would be effective to have some of the migrents sent to other parts of the US?

Not as they are doing but setup to receive them by government and private charity? Spread the burden of all this. This may give the newcomers better treatment and support and take the burden off the entry states.

[2naSalit]

6. That already happens...

To some degree, it's just that it has become a popular trope to exacerbate for political points so they are going for the lowest of the low.

[Srkdqltr]

9. Why doesn't someone point this out? I didn't realise?

[2naSalit]

12. Many have to no avail.

Eventually that voice was drowned as so many have been during these horrible times.

[jmowreader]

14. That's not the point

The governors who are doing this are actively trying to collapse New York City. Sending them to other parts of the country would interfere with that.

No, the proper way to deal with this is find some street gangs who’d like to move to Texas. For every refugee Texas sends to New York, they get a gang member back. And y’know, gangs are entrepreneurial so it wouldn’t burden Texas’ social services system to do this,

[Elessar Zappa]

4. Who's paying for the bus charters?

Are Texas tax payers on the hook for this performative bullshit?

[2naSalit]

7. I think they are.

[JustAnotherGen]

11. $74M has gone to

Wynne Transportation.

Texas gets a huge amount of money via DHS / CBP.

If they are going to continue this - those financial resources need to be shifted to 1100 Raymond Avenue in Newark NJ. That is the location of the NY/NJ CBP. Alternatively - shift funds over to Trenton and Albany to find places for these folks to live. Don't forget back home in Rochester.

These folks have been dropped off there too.

If Texas isn't going to pull their weight - they need to have those resources pulled.

[Orrex]

5. Why is this not treated as kidnapping and human trafficking?

Or, from another angle, why aren't these GOP governors being charged with facilitating illegal immigration, since they're helping these immigrants get farther into the country?

If they actually held businesses accountable for hiring undocumented workers, fining those businesses $100,000 per worker per day, for instance, the problem of illegal immigration for employment would disappear in 15 minutes.

[2naSalit]

8. Exactly.

There is a remedy for this if someone with the authority would actually do something. Pisses me off more than several of the other bullshit things they do.

[Polybius]

10. Because they tricked them

They tell them things like "NY is so much better, do you want a free ticket there?" Because they willfully get on the bus, they can't be charged with kidnapping. It's a loophole Abbot exploits.

[2naSalit]

13. And then the media show up...

And interview the few who aren't really pissed about it yet, trying to illustrate that it's not such a big deal after all.

[Orrex]

19. That's kidnapping through a lack of informed consent

Not that ethics mean anything to Republicans, of course.

[Jose Garcia]

15. Because the migrants actually want to go to NYC

[thatdemguy]

18. Probably because the Border Patrol has already released them

With info to contact the courts for when their immigration hearings are scheduled. The migrants at this point are released from custody, and are allowed to travel to further destination in the US. They are just taking the free ride to some where they know is safe and will give them shelter and care.

[Orrex]

20. That, I'm afrad, is probably the correct answer.

The Fed should immediately cut off all funding for patrolling of the Texas border, on the grounds that such funding is needed wherever Abbot sends the immigrants.

[jvill]

23. Because the migrants are going willingly...

Listen, you’re a migrant in Texas. You want to get to your family and network that came here ahead of you. While some live in inhospitable Texas, most live in or around NYC and Chicago. And after this long trip, these nice Texans have offered to bus you and your family to your other family FOR FREE!

Of course they want to go…

[Orrex]

25. Then that leads to the second part of the post

Why aren't these Repub governors being held accountable for facilitating illegal immigration?

[kelly1mm]

27. Because they are not here illegally. They were granted parole by the CBP and are free to travel anywhere

in the USA pending their asylum application being adjudicated. The timeframe for that to happen is currently multiple years long waitlist .......

[Prairie Gates]

16. If the goal is to merely distribute the migrants more equitably, then the reasonable

requirements for safe drop-offs shouldn't be a problem.

If the goal is to artificially simulate the chaos of the border in other jurisdictions, then the reasonable restrictions have to be "bypassed."

Of course, the first goal is understandable and ethical, while the second goal is indefensible and evil.

So, which is it, Texas?

[hueymahl]

26. You have to give them points for creativity

[rockfordfile]

29. It's getting crazy

[Polybius]

30. Very n/t