Map Shows 25 States Now Backing Greg Abbott in Border Feud
Source: Newsweek
Amap of U.S. states shows that nearly all of the Republican governors are now backing Texas Governor Greg Abbott in his ongoing dispute with the Biden administration over his attempts to stop illegal migrant crossings into the state from Mexico.
In a 5-4 vote on Monday, the Supreme Court surprised many by siding with the president, ruling that federal agents couldfor nowresume cutting razor wire that Texas has been installing along a stretch of the southern border.
The installation of concertina wire along the Rio Grande was among several physical measures Abbott has taken at the border in his efforts to stem the number of migrants entering Texas. In the year to September 2023, nearly 1.4 million migrants entered the state illegally, according to figures compiled by the Customs and Border Protection (CPB) agency, marginally lower than in the previous year.
In the days since the ruling, Abbott has said the fight is "not over" and praised the Texas National Guard for continuing to "hold the line."
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/map-american-states-backing-texas-governor-greg-abbott-border-feud-1864363
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)No surprise. Biden aint playing their stupid little games. The Federal government has jurisdiction over all borders and immigration law.
riversedge
(70,322 posts)#TrumpIsALoser #TrumpIsALoser #TrumpIsALoser
#TrumpIsALoser #TrumpIsALoser #TrumpIsALoser
Polybius
(15,506 posts)What are these Governors planning, if anything?
Fiendish Thingy
(15,669 posts)Unless there is some action to obstruct CBP from carrying out its duties following the ruling, this is all bluster.
We shall see.
FSogol
(45,532 posts)From wiki:
In November 2022, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported that Newsweek has "taken a marked radical right turn by buoying extremists and promoting authoritarian leaders" since it hired political activist Josh Hammer to be editor at large noting its elevation of conspiracy theorists, its publication of conspiracy theories about COVID-19 and bigoted views such as support for a ban on all legal immigration to the United States and apparent support for denying adults access to trans-affirming medical care, and failure to disclose potential conflicts of interest in the content published on Hammer's opinion section and podcast.
Midnight Writer
(21,816 posts)More cult behavior. The demands on the cult members become more and more onerous and irrational, and appeasing them just makes them loonier.
They create more new issues out of thin air, imagine more and more threats against "their way of life", and "identify" more and more perceived enemies.
IronLionZion
(45,546 posts)California, Arizona, New Mexico.
The northern red states should build a wall to keep out Canadians from New Hampshire, North Dakota, Montana, Idaho, and Alaska.
Oh and of course "nobody wants to work anymore".
Prairie Gates
(1,068 posts)Somebody get that Newsweek reporter a carrot! This is shocking breaking news! It's almost as if they write stories just so they can be trollposted around the internet.
Almost.
limbicnuminousity
(1,405 posts)https://oklahoma.gov/governor/newsroom/newsroom/2023/june2023/governor-stitt-to-send-oklahoma-national-guard-troops-to-souther.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-sending-florida-law-enforcement-texas-border-mexico-rcna84551
You can find similar reports for each of roughly 26 states. Of course NH only sent 2 troops which is little more than symbolic support. This isn't a bunch of governors yucking it up on a conference call. Would you be so nonchalant about it if DeSantis sent 800 guardsmen and 200 Floridian cops along with a bunch of drones and mobile military headquarter units to your neighborhood?
pwb
(11,292 posts)Is an asshole. IMO. Migrants are not coming for your $7.25 red state minimum wage. Sad for them that they have to move through your lesser states to get to living wages.
jimfields33
(16,006 posts)Its not. Florida is way above that and going higher yearly.
pwb
(11,292 posts)about Florida but their border is water. Migrants have to pass through $7.25 minimum wage states. The only three that do not pay low wages where they come in are New Mexico, California , and Arizona. Personally if it was me I would keep going and head up to Canada.
https://www.paycom.com/resources/blog/minimum-wage-rate-by-state/
DBoon
(22,401 posts)That is often not the case
pwb
(11,292 posts)paid states. I am sure the red state masters would pay less than minimum wage it is in their blood.
DBoon
(22,401 posts)better?
sarisataka
(18,792 posts)those states represent 226 Electoral votes. If Republicans keep Kentucky and North Carolina, we must win at least three of Arizona, Geogia, Michigan and Wisconsin. If Republican take two, they will win the White house or at least a tie. Since the HoR would choose the President, it is the same as a win for them.
Celerity
(43,579 posts)Maine needs to stop splitting its Electoral Collge votes. Presenting the Maine nightmare of nightmares scenario:
Imagine Biden winning the national popular vote by 6, 7, 8 (or even more) million but then, due to Maine splitting EVs (which likely results in giving Trump one EV from ME-2) we end up at a 269 v 269 EC tie.
Due the RW state legislatures gerrymandering the US House districts, WI, FL, and (now again, starting in 2024 and beyond), NC, we cannot pull them under at least 26 State delegations in the US House, so they have enough to elect a Rethug POTUS if it's kicked to the US House. Each State delegation gets 1 vote, 26 needed to win.
So not only would Trump win despite being crushed in the popular vote, BUT he would win only due to an archane quirk from an 18th century apparatus (Electoral College) that also has been illegally gamed by the Rethugs (via gerrymandering), PLUS the utter stupidity of a Blue State (Maine) tossing him ONE EV.
Nigtmare of nightmares.
Here is the most likely EC map for this to happen.
Notice the only other State that splits EVs (Nebraska) is shown all Red, as in this map, Trump wins NE-2, the only one of their districts remotely in play. NE-2 is perhaps MASSIVE in 2024 (see below).
The map:
I do not think AZ (if only 5,229 votes had flipped from Biden to Trump, Trump would have won it) and GA (if only 5,890 votes had flipped from Biden to Trump, Trump would have won it) reverting to their Red norm is a huge stretch, NC is not likely (it is a tease at times but lately always ends up Red, as since 1976, the only Dem to win was Obama, barely, 2008, by 14,177 votes) to flip, AND I DO have Biden winning WI, MI, PA, NH, VA, NM, MN, and CO, plus all the deepest Blue states and DC.
Other than AZ and GA, the only 2 things Trump needs to do in terms of flipping to get to this map are the following 2:
NE-2 - which gave an electoral vote to Biden in the 2020 election, but if 11,046 votes had flipped from Biden to Trump, Trump would have won it. The new 2024 map makes the district redder by keeping Douglas County whole but pairing it with a Republican-leaning rural county. In the old map, the 2nd District had an even partisan lean; in the new map, its partisan lean is R+3.
Nevada - Biden won in 2020, but if only 16,799 votes had flipped from Biden to Trump, Trump would have won it, and in 2022 (POST Roe overturning) we lost the Governorship, Cortez Masto barely won reelection to the US Senate (if only 3,965 votes had flipped from Cortez Masto to Laxalt, Laxalt would have won), and all 3 of the Dem House races we won (we lost one of the 4 NV House seats) were pretty damn close. Since October 22, 2023, every poll I have seen has Trump over Biden, whether its 1 on 1, or when RFK Jr plus West and Stein are added in. Immigration is a huge issue in NV, and not in a good way for us.
Maine needs to stop splitting EVs.
That map absolutely could (NOT saying it will, tbc) happen, and it would be a pure nightmarish way to lose the POTUS and perhaps the nation, especially as we can block it ahead of time in Maine.
sarisataka
(18,792 posts)limbicnuminousity
(1,405 posts)That red dot in Maine is one of the most affordable places to rent (that isn't in the middle of a red state). I'm trying to move there for that reason and maybe helping flip that 1 vote.
limbicnuminousity
(1,405 posts)It's early and anything can happen, but those three seem within reach?
sarisataka
(18,792 posts)that I see Michigan as shaky. They have a large enough Muslim population, that a mass sit out of the vote over Israel could swing the state.
My numbers are just a cautionary tale that nothing is "in the bag". We made that assumption once and paid a steep price.
joanbarnes
(1,723 posts)its very telling that the other states that border Mexico are not on board with the next Civil War
Paladin
(28,276 posts)Novara
(5,853 posts)We fought a war over this states' rights bullshit, remember? It did not end well for that side. Not at all.
Warpy
(111,367 posts)What kind of complaint do those other border states have about CANADA?
Those Republican meathead "me too" governors need to butt the fuck out unless they want to start fining employers withing their states who contract for warm bodies without papers to work shitty jobs for next to no pay.
That's how you stop human trafficking, which is largely what this is. Go after the customers, not the people being trafficked.
ZonkerHarris
(24,262 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,489 posts)Polybius
(15,506 posts)But this time, it's more like "Bad things about crazy Republican governors."
orangecrush
(19,633 posts)Was my take.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)If they need the shit kicked out of them before they get it, go ahead.
Polybius
(15,506 posts)A violent confrontation isn't likely, thank God.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,475 posts)orangecrush
(19,633 posts)Or a "good news for MAGATs" op
my first impulse is to look at the profile of the poster.
Not in this particular case, of course, but in general....
Polybius
(15,506 posts)I see it as crazy Republican governors, and exposing their BS.
Initech
(100,107 posts)And it's also helpful knowing which governors and reps are on Murdoch's payroll too.
bdamomma
(63,928 posts)stop pointing fingers and placing blame on emigrants. Who's going to do the work that Americans will not do.
I don't understand how some people don't realize we all came from somewhere else. Native Americans were our 1st indigenous people.