Ilhan Omar Deportation Calls Grow From Republicans
Source: Newsweek
Conservatives are calling for Minnesota Representative Ilhan Omar to be deported over comments she allegedly made about Somalia.
Omar, a Somali American and Muslim, sparked a backlash after a clip of the lawmaker's recent remarks to Somali American constituents went viral on X, formerly Twitter.
In the remarks, Omar addressed the deal struck by Somalia's breakaway region of Somaliland with landlocked Ethiopia to give it access to the sea.
According to the translation of her remarks first shared on X by Ambassador Rhoda J. Elmi, Somaliland's Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, Omar purportedly said that she was "Somalian first, Muslim second" and "here to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the U.S. system."
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/ilhan-omar-deportation-calls-republicans-1865235
Lovie777
(12,274 posts)and evangelists who claim to be so Christian.
... but it was a pretty dumb thing to say. From someone who just keeps saying dumb things.
ColinC
(8,300 posts)They are white supremacists calling on deporting a US citizen. Are you seriously justifying that?
In that case lets deport trump. He takes the gambit on dumb things said.
Ocelot II
(115,731 posts)there wouldn't be many left. Probably no GOPers at all.
Omar (my rep) is an American citizen; she can't be deported. She can be primaried, though, which is about to happen. She says a lot of dumb, unnecessarily controversial things, and I'd like to be represented by someone who doesn't do that.
ColinC
(8,300 posts)Deport her is an extreme white supremacist talking point.
LeftInTX
(25,364 posts)Saying Somalian first was a dumb thing. She could have worded this differently. She can advocate for the interests of Somalia without saying "Somalian first". It makes it sound like the reason she is in congress is to protect the interests of Somalia. Sometimes those interests are not consistent with what is best for the US.
I'm not familiar with the Somalialand issue. Don't know even know what the US role in the issue is. I don't blame her for advocating for this issue, even if it goes against what the US is doing. The US keeps supporting Azerbaijan and us Armenians keep complaining.
However, I certainly won't vote for Kennedy because that is who the ANCA is endorsing..LOL The ANCA supports Armenian issues over pragmatic. Of course Armenian issues are important to me, but they aren't that important.
And with regards to foreign affairs there is often disagreement in Congress anyway. Doesn't make anyone more or less patriotic. (Unless someone files a completely ridiculous bill, that makes Putin or the Ayatollah an equal ally or something real weird like that. I guess if she filed a bill in support of pirates and Houthis, it would really rattle everyone, but she hasn't done this)
She is only once voice out of 535, so she doesn't have much sway.
Of course, deporting her is a stupid idea. Or even saying it they want to deport is stupid
ColinC
(8,300 posts)She is a US citizen
LeftInTX
(25,364 posts)BTW: Naturalized citizens can be deported. It's very rare, but it can be done.
https://www.findlaw.com/immigration/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html#:~:text=It%20is%20possible%20for%20naturalized,born%20U.S.%20citizen%20(U.S.C).
ColinC
(8,300 posts)She will be the first democrat and US citizen to be deported or detained. But she will not be the last.
LeftInTX
(25,364 posts)Trump could have tried that if he wanted way back in 2019.
We're a nation of laws. You can't deport someone (revoke citizenship) via an executive order.
Most cases of revocation have occurred in the court system in conjunction with criminal trials and is usually in the punishment phase of a criminal trial. Usually these trials involving drug cartels and/or terrorism. We rarely hear about these revocations because the crimes are usually pretty heinous.
Omar hasn't broken any laws.
She's just getting on people's nerves.
ColinC
(8,300 posts)She has been made a scapegoat by the right. It doesnt matter if she is breaking laws. She will be one of the first elected prominent US reps to be deported once these fanatics fully take control. Again, she wont be the last. Giving any credibility to statements like the one above is only adding fuel to that possibility.
Hope22
(1,842 posts)We may be a nation of laws but there is nothing keeping any of us here safe if he is reinstalled to the Whitehouse. Dont count on it!!
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.
LeftInTX
(25,364 posts)getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)She has a LOT of sway.
We, as democrats, and as Americans, need a better voice in that seat.
We don't need deportation bullshit.
Polybius
(15,428 posts)It was a dumb thing to say, and calls to deport her are even dumber.
ColinC
(8,300 posts)And thats exactly what calls to deport a US citizen and one of the first Muslims elected to congress, is.
No argument there.
marble falls
(57,099 posts)... I'd have no problems voting for Ilhan Omar whatsoever if I were in her district.
ColinC
(8,300 posts)🤔
marble falls
(57,099 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
ificandream
(9,373 posts)Can't leave home without it.
FalloutShelter
(11,869 posts)As a Congresswoman and AT BEST! this was an incredibly stupid remark. He first loyalty should to be the United States and her constituents., not Somalia.
PERIOD. I understand her love of her mother country and her religion, but that is a personal concern. She has a higher duty as a Congresswoman, to the United States.
Where even is the USA? Number three
four
where?
I dont dislike her, but she needs some of her fellow Democrats remind her of her Duty.
Ocelot II
(115,731 posts)and I will vote for one of them. She's my rep and she's been a consistent disappointment - not the least because of her tendency to say things that are both dumb and unnecessarily controversial. But she's a citizen, and she is not subject to deportation for any reason.,
FalloutShelter
(11,869 posts)I said she needs to be smarter. Yes the voters will decide, of course.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Context is everything.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.
Marthe48
(16,968 posts)she might have said American first, Muslim second? And maybe the rwnj would get a clue and realize it is American first, Christianity second.
I don't see a lot wrong with Rep. Omar reminding that specific audience of her roots. I grew up hearing the adult neighbors reminding people of their roots, mainly in Europe. I know now that it wasn't just that we lived in an all white neighborhood, but at the time, few Black Americans knew what country their ancestors had come from. When I grew up, we America's population was called a melting pot. With a resurgence of national pride, some pundits prefer the term salad bowl. I think the country was more cohesive as a fondue than as crudites.
Ocelot II
(115,731 posts)she often seems to forget that the Somali community in her district aren't her only constituents. Certainly they have particular needs and concerns that need to be addressed, but this district is pretty diverse and includes a lot of other people who also have needs and concerns. She's not very good at her job.
Marthe48
(16,968 posts)You are well-informed of your reps. I've only seen/heard a couple of her interviews on MSNBC, just to see what I think. Around Cleveland, Oh, where I grew up, there were German, Slovakian, Serbian, Russian and so many other associations that were based on culture or country of origin. The members celebrated their roots, and I was thinking if Rep. Omar was at a gathering like that, it wouldn't be out of line to say something like that. But Dems are held to a higher standard. A rwnj can say things similar, even on the House floor and get a pass.
I wouldn't like it if Rep. Omar said something like this on the House floor.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,129 posts)She is my rep. as well. Such a statement is concerning to be sure, but since I also have hit roadblocks when I have tried to get her assistance with my SSDI situation. Very not helpful. Sure, it is more than likely that this is her staff. But, as the captain is responsible for the conduct of his/her crew...
Voltaire2
(13,053 posts)celebration includes politicians bragging about how Irish they are. Deport all of them.
Novara
(5,843 posts)I can get behind that.
FakeNoose
(32,641 posts)... but they love it more than they love the USA for some odd reason.
BumRushDaShow
(129,070 posts)It's like a food fight with them throwing stuff everywhere to see who and what gets hit.
Freethinker65
(10,023 posts)But deportation? Nope.
If she wants to advocate for her home country as an American citizen, she is entitled to. If what is best for America is truly NOT a priority for her, she should resign from the US Congress.
I am assuming she was actually doing something quite common by politicians running for re-election that is called pandering. She was telling a group of voters what they want to hear to energize them to vote for her. She went too far, in my opinion. She needs to answer for what she said.
I hate pandering and being pandered to.
When we moved to our current house I received two ads from the same candidate...one ad targeting seniors saying property taxes were too high, schools were wasting valuable money on upgrades...the other ad was targeting young families saying how access to a great education is what made our community strong and increased property values and they would continue to fight for strong education! I just shook my head and voted for someone else.
Both parties do this and I hate it!
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.
Freethinker65
(10,023 posts)If there is audio, native speakers should be able to translate in English pretty darn close to what she said.
I would not be surprised if the true translation is somewhere in the middle. More like - as a Somali and Muslim, I will fight for Somalia and Muslim concerns while in Congress. And then discussions went from there. Does it mean she doesn't care about American interests, nah...but did she dissuade her audience from believing that as a Somali and Muslim she will put their interests above other constituents? Probably not.
Not treasonous, put unfortunately in today's political climate, she will be forced to explain what she actually meant. Is that fair? No. But best to get it out of the way.
SarahD
(1,189 posts)No more stupid than the christofascists who say their reason for being in Congress is to write Jesus into the law and force us all to follow biblical principles concerning sex, gender, sex, abortion, sex, race, sex, etc. Oh, did I mention sex?
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
Mosby
(16,318 posts)-snip-
In an unusual congratulatory note to Somalian President Hassan Sh Mohamoud for opposing the MoU, Omar proclaimed, Somalia is Somali, Somalia is one, we are brothers, and our lands are indivisible. Her reference to missing lands that we should be getting back, including the Northern Kenyan territory of NFD and the Ethiopian Somali region, echoes back to the irredentism of the dictatorial regime of Siad Barre, which contributed to the downfall of the Somali Republic.
Its noteworthy that Ilhan Omars apparent adherence to the destructive Somali ideology is linked to the late dictator Siad Barre, under whose regime Omars father served. Barres brutal dictatorship was marked by egregious human rights violation that culminated in the massacre of tens of thousands of Somalilanders by the very regime whose Omar father has served, raising concerns about Omars ties to a dark chapter in Somalias history.
https://somalilandchronicle.com/2024/01/28/controversial-ilhan-omar-asserts-dominance-over-u-s-policy-in-somaliland-ethiopian-mou/
I sure didn't have Ilhan the ultranationalist on my bingo card.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
Mosby
(16,318 posts)I think their translations are probably correct.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)Which seems to be the case...
Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
Deep State Witch
(10,427 posts)Than Brian Mast (R) who is also a reservist in the IDF, and showed up to a vote in his IDF uniform?
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.
Kennah
(14,273 posts)ripcord
(5,408 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)Indeed, the term Somalian is not used by Somalis, who prefer the term Somali.
A devout Muslim like Omar would have faced outrage from the largely Muslim audience had she placed her religion second, according to one translator.
During the remarks in question, Omar spoke of the unity of the Somali people: Somalis are people who love each other. Its possible that we might sometimes have disagreements but we are also people who can rely on each other. We are people who are siblings. We are people with courage. We are people who know that they are Somali and Muslim. We are people who support each other.
In an email to the Reformer, Omar said the attacks are disingenuous attempts to malign my character and question my loyalty to my home, America.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/
"not independently verified the accuracy of the translation.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)Maybe she did.
What does maybe even mean here? Her comments were a direct translation by accredited journalists.
Maybe there are semantic subtleties. Maybe supporters and detractors are grasping for advantage.
But these issues sure do follow her.
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)From your Minnesota Reformer link (the quotation is Minnesota Reformer's translation of Representative Omar's remarks):
When I heard that people who call themselves Somalis signed an agreement with Ethiopia, many people reached out to me and said I needed to talk to the U.S. government. They asked, What would the U.S. government do? My answer was that the U.S. government will do what we tell the U.S. government to do. That is the confidence we need to have as Somalis.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/02/01/republicans-smeared-ilhan-omar-over-a-faulty-translation-heres-what-she-really-said/