Rep. Perry says House GOP should cancel Biden's SOTU address
Source: The Hill
02/26/24 12:00 PM ET
Former House Freedom Caucus Chair Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) is calling on Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to stop President Biden from giving his annual State of the Union address next month.
Perry said during an appearance Monday on Fox Business that Republicans should use the opportunity to ramp up pressure on Biden over the southern border amid an influx of migrants.
We need to use every single point of leverage, Perry said. [The president] comes at the invitation of Congress, and Republicans are in control of the House. Theres no reason that we need to invite him to get more propaganda and actually blame the American people for the crisis hes caused.
House Republicans have rejected bipartisan legislation that Bidens backed aimed at providing additional border security, after former President Trump, the clear front-runner for the partys presidential nomination, spoke out against the bill. Critics say Republicans would rather use the issue to help Trump in 2024 than solve the problem.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/4489178-rep-perry-says-house-gop-should-cancel-bidens-sotu-address/
Note he is "former" ( "expired" from the chair position )
A (D) tried to unseat him here in PA but no dice. He obviously can't "read or comprehend" the Constitution -
Section 1.
The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:
(snip)
Section 3.
He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.
(snip)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
FSogol
(45,524 posts)It's been done before.
JohnSJ
(92,372 posts)PTL_Mancuso
(276 posts)He seethes with not-niceness!
peppertree
(21,655 posts)SOTUs are for adults - and House Repugs have long since proven to be unbearable toddlers, ever since Gingrich.
former9thward
(32,068 posts)If held at the Capitol building it has to be in the House chambers.
dem4decades
(11,301 posts)former9thward
(32,068 posts)There is no room for Democrats and TV cameras.
Klondike Kat
(810 posts)There's these things called television and streaming media. I'm pretty sure that the Republicans have heard of them.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)submit a written report detailing how the republican controlled House has fucked them the last 2 years, and just have those reports delivered to the Speakers office.
Fuck them, they can read.
And if they won't, the press sure as hell will.
calimary
(81,440 posts)And why couldnt President Biden go over their heads to the networks and ask for broadcast time to deliver the State of the Union speech to the rest of us in this Union?
soldierant
(6,914 posts)Perry's idea is onlt partly about putting pressure on Biden (they haven't noticed, it seems, how well he performs under pressure.) It is really about preventing the Amerincan people from learning just how great a state the nation is in fact in on account of the Biden administration.
sarge43
(28,942 posts)slap a post it on a carrier pigeon's butt and it to the Capital.
These clowns should try reading the owner's manual. Could prevent them from putting both feet in the pie hole.
catrose
(5,073 posts)samnsara
(17,634 posts)HighFired49
(351 posts)I don't see anything in the Constitution that says that the President can't give the State of the Union speech in the House. He doesn't have to be invited. I don't believe that the House can prevent him from giving the speech there. Perry is a stupid jackass.
Lovie777
(12,321 posts)Aristus
(66,446 posts)And he doesn't have to put up with those skanky GOP hags who heckle him like they're still in junior high.
BumRushDaShow
(129,376 posts)every President for the past century (since Woodrow Wilson) along with the first 2 Presidents, have given it "in person" in Congress.
Each year, before a joint session of Congress, the president fulfills his or her constitutional duty to "give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union" (Article II, section 3). Presidents George Washington and John Adams delivered their messages in person, but in 1801 Thomas Jefferson chose to send his in writing. That precedent held until Woodrow Wilson decided to deliver his message in person in 1913, a tradition that continues today. Franklin Roosevelt referred to it as the "State of the Union Address," a title that became official during the Harry Truman administration. The first national radio broadcast of the message occurred in 1923, following a limited but successful experimentation with radio in 1922. Truman's 1947 address was the first to be televised, and in 1965, President Lyndon Johnson began the tradition of delivering the address in prime time. In 1966 the opposition party began offering a televised response to the president's speech, a tradition that has continued. Each year one member of the president's cabinet is absent from the address to maintain the line of succession in case of an emergency.
https://www.senate.gov/about/traditions-symbols/state-of-the-union.htm
(22 out of 24 of them, with 2 who never had chance, from Jefferson to T. Roosevelt, handed it in, and the availability of "radio" and then "television" seemed to encourage doing it "in person" )
Raine
(30,540 posts)erronis
(15,328 posts)Might as well get with the program and have all the critters govern from their home offices, where they are representing their constituents, or playing around with an extra-marital secretary/gigolo.
BumRushDaShow
(129,376 posts)Congress Hall here in Philly offered an "intimate" venue to give that first (1796) and next couple "State of the Union" reports a "personal touch" -
They could grab an ale a few blocks away when it was done.
erronis
(15,328 posts)that there may have been other activities engaged in there?
These were mere mortals and we know how they may act. (Except for the holier than thou, etc.)
BumRushDaShow
(129,376 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,344 posts)The President can snail mail the State of the Union to the House and Senate if he wants and deliver his address from Key West, someplace sunny and warm.
ificandream
(9,385 posts)But they'll say and do anything even if they can't.
bottomofthehill
(8,344 posts)CCExile
(471 posts)It could be delivered in the form of interpretive dance, for that matter!
bottomofthehill
(8,344 posts)It would suck if it were not held there as it has become a tradition that would be nice to continue as it is a national and global event. Unfortunately, the numbers have been trending down. In the 90's 60 plus million people watched Bill Clinton's SOTU the numbers have been trending down since. Maybe some of that is based on different platforms to watch, but some is just disinterest in politics in general.
CCExile
(471 posts)Meadowoak
(5,556 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,166 posts)Invite the House Democrats to sit in the galleries, and snail mail the House GOP transcripts of the speech - postage due!
former9thward
(32,068 posts)And the House Democrats would not agree to the galleries.
Raven123
(4,862 posts)Could simply be written and sent over.
former9thward
(32,068 posts)The SOTU It is one of the last times a president gets free TV coverage before the election.
Raven123
(4,862 posts)onenote
(42,747 posts)every network would cover it as an historic event and the audience would be larger than it would have been otherwise.
Polybius
(15,467 posts)Imagine what the press would say if Biden skipped a long, live speech?
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)That has the plus that Margarine won't be able to bellow at him like a howler monkey while he talks.
et tu
(893 posts)phone inquiry going? like he should be going out of politics to prison,
another traitor tot~
Walleye
(31,039 posts)erronis
(15,328 posts)Mopar151
(9,992 posts)And a professional wiseass (Al Franken would be perfect!) to do "color commentary" on SAP (alternate audio channel).
Could Kamala Harris, in her capacity as President of the Senate, ask the Sargent At Arms to remove a truly vexatious member? Solution of last resort, to be sure - but the SOU has had some last resort heckling (He LIES!!!)!
GenThePerservering
(1,834 posts)Perry KNOWS that Biden will take them to task over their complete fuckup and lack of any governance, and his speech will reflect facts and reality.
They can't abide that.
kimbutgar
(21,177 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)Deuxcents
(16,310 posts)Charging Triceratops
(165 posts)He should be hanging from a tall tree at Gitmo.
erronis
(15,328 posts)cstanleytech
(26,317 posts)That means if they want to be assholes they can be however Biden can still hold a State of the Union speech at the Whitehouse with the press and it might even work for us better if they do that.
Why? Because Biden can use it by saying the Republicans are doing it because they are afraid of him and the rest of the Democrats running for office can use it against the Republicans by showing how cowardly the Republicans are.
Delmette2.0
(4,168 posts)It is part of the separation of duties.
I say th at Biden should give the speech from the Oval Office.
bottomofthehill
(8,344 posts)onenote
(42,747 posts)Pelosi "rescinded" the invitation during the government shutdown and made clear the President would be welcomed to deliver the state of the union in the Capitol once the government shutdown ended.
Vinca
(50,302 posts)DFW
(54,436 posts)"he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper
So, if he wants to give his SOTU speech before the Senate only, he can even adjourn the House for two days, give the SOTU before the Senate, and the TV cameras won't be focusing on one single member of the House, since none will be present except those who are invited guests.
I wonder if Mikey Mouse is fully aware of the can of worms he is considering opening.
Hekate
(90,773 posts)I was thinking a national address from his office via television.
DFW
(54,436 posts)3825-87867
(855 posts)if there's a Gov Shutdown, the Politicians go home...or so they think. The President can call them back and even if they don't want to do any legislating, they must still be in Congress. No paid vacations, make them sit in Congress for 12 hours a day (since they get paid regardless according to the Constitution). How that grab you guys?
Novara
(5,851 posts)And how they can't get a goddamn thing done?
And maybe he can talk about Perry's connections to Putin while he's at it.
liberalgunwilltravel
(336 posts)Recall Perry to active duty and have him face court martial for sedition. If he is found guilty, execute him on live TV. Enough of this horse 💩.
nwduke
(351 posts)One of the insurrectionist that asked Don the Con for a pardon after J6! He should just zip it when talking about the State of the Union speech!
lark
(23,147 posts)He should be in jail on sedition charges already - along with his fascist mentor - tsf. Sick what a scared AG can allow to happen by sticking his head in the sand and refusing to go after the traitorous congresscritters.
Warpy
(111,329 posts)especially the ones looking at conspiracy charges after trying to railroad Biden's entire family into prison on the basis of hourse shit manufactured in Russia by Putin's goons.
The Senate, House Democrats, and the few remaining Republicans with any sense at all will attend.
Biden will not be too polite to identify the rest as what's wrong with this country, their antics destructive to this nation and others. Biden's Irish enough not to pull punches.
Jilly_in_VA
(9,994 posts)can just GFH. In every possible position.
C_U_L8R
(45,018 posts)What a bunch of stupid clowns.
bucolic_frolic
(43,258 posts)No 1A for citizens, who after all, pay the taxes for the government and deserve to be informed about our government. No, no, none of that. Operate in silence to please Scott Perry!
pfitz59
(10,388 posts)Presidential Medal. One of the lowest points in SOTU history was Trumps bestowal on the bum, Rush.
SunSeeker
(51,660 posts)Bayard
(22,128 posts)Get ride of the disrupters.
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)Historic NY
(37,452 posts)on network TV....I expect we will see smoke rising from the Capitol.
Demobrat
(8,986 posts)The truth?
maxrandb
(15,349 posts)33taw
(2,446 posts)Hold a press conference every day to trash the Republicans
Hassler
(3,389 posts)Ritabert
(669 posts)...and deliver the televised speech to the American public. Congress could be invited and if they fail to show up it's on them. He can detail what he's been doing and how he's being obstructed on every issue.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,562 posts)Ritabert
(669 posts)Shoonra
(523 posts)... with only Democrats present in the WH, so that there will be plenty of applause and audience approval and no images of the Republicans failing to applaud. That should make an effect on the viewing public.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)cell phone..yup..Scotty, Jack would like to have a chat..more than 1600 communication on said cell..time and date incoming..once the SCOTUS lifts the stay on the DC case..
nothin' like bringing attention to yourselves...
EnergizedLib
(1,898 posts)Now I know what.
How disgusting. The treason continues.
JohnnyRingo
(18,640 posts)And why shouldn't he? Biden can look right at them and say they don't want to close the border for political reasons.
This political theater is akin to pulling back the curtain and revealing Oz to be a fraud.
dlk
(11,575 posts)Who does he think he is?
twodogsbarking
(9,795 posts)Call him every expletive you can google; still not enough.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,674 posts)* BONUS: No hecklers!!
Qutzupalotl
(14,322 posts)Could be over in half an hour that way.
SarahD
(1,213 posts)The President will just go on network TV and speak to the people without the booing and disrespect from nasty Republicans. And the networks don't have to allow a response, although I'm sure they will.
DBoon
(22,395 posts)Why bother with the constitution then.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132111402
gab13by13
(21,385 posts)Caters to Magats.
Biden will appear presidential when he gives the address which will counter the Magat bs that Biden is just the acting president.
Hold the event as its supposed to be held, cmon people.
onenote
(42,747 posts)He'll look far more presidential - and the Repubs will look petty -- if he lets the rescind the invitation and then he send the speech to Congress by hand at the same time as he gives the speech to a nationwide television audience from the White House. The networks will all carry it given the historic circumstances and the audience probably will be larger than it would have been otherwise.
dchill
(38,518 posts)DOJ? DOJ?
Mawspam2
(738 posts)Allow all House and Senate members AND the public to attend!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,167 posts)As you point out, the SOTU is constitutionally required.
From The Ashes
(2,630 posts)pretending that the GOP didn't just scuttle the BI-PARTISAN border bill all in the service of their god-king. Biden's not the problem here...much as Perry'd like him to be.
markbark
(1,561 posts)....and rather than calling it the SOTU address, he could rename it to the STFU address
apnu
(8,758 posts)If the GOP continues these childish antics they will lose up and down the ballot in November.
sinkingfeeling
(51,470 posts)If Perry doesn't want to attend, then stay home.