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riversedge

(70,218 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:53 AM Mar 23

Moscow concert hall attack: death toll rises to 115 as suspects held and Ukraine denies any involvement - live updates

Source: the guardian



2h ago07.05 EDT
Russia’s FSB tries to link Ukraine to Moscow attack despite IS claiming responsibility
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The director of Russia’s federal security service (FSB) informed Vladimir Putin that 11 individuals had been arrested in connection with Friday’s terrorist attack at the Crocus City Hall outside Moscow, including four suspects involved in the shooting. Putin has not appeared or commented in public so far after the assault.

Islamic State, through an affiliated news agency, claimed responsibility for the attack late on Friday in a post on Telegram, in which they claimed the gunmen had managed to escape afterwards. A US official said Washington had intelligence confirming Islamic State’s claim.

There are already signs that Moscow will try to pin blame for the attack on Ukraine, despite the claim of responsibility by Islamic State. Without providing any evidence, the FSB on Saturday appeared to point the finger at Kyiv, saying that the gunmen were arrested while trying to cross into Ukraine. “They had contacts on the Ukrainian side,” the FSB said in a statement.

Kyiv has vehemently denied it had any involvement in the attack. “Ukraine certainly has nothing to do with the shooting/explosions in the Crocus City Hall,” Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the Ukrainian presidential administration, wrote on social media. “It makes no sense whatsoever. Ukraine has never resorted to the use of terrorist methods.”..................




Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/mar/23/moscow-concert-attack-crocus-city-hall-shooting-russia-live-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-65fe9e9f8f08ed13c27ca92f#block-65fe9e9f8f08ed13c27ca92f



So much horror--so many innocent deaths!




https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/mar/23/moscow-concert-attack-crocus-city-hall-shooting-russia-live-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-65feced58f08ed13c27caa4f#block-65feced58f08ed13c27caa4f

People mourn at the Crocus City Hall concert venue in Krasnogorsk, outside Moscow. Photograph: Maxim Shipenkov/EPA

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Moscow concert hall attack: death toll rises to 115 as suspects held and Ukraine denies any involvement - live updates (Original Post) riversedge Mar 23 OP
ISIS is pretty suicidal. Interesting they didn't kill themselves this time IronLionZion Mar 23 #1
Interesting that they were able to get away. Midnight Writer Mar 23 #9
Not fair to Moscow cops Kennah Mar 23 #12
He was given a warning ck4829 Mar 23 #2
Putin is only focusing on conquering Ukraine......................... Lovie777 Mar 23 #5
Don't you mean "Biden" up? OnlinePoker Mar 23 #6
Yes Putin will use the attack to further his personal agenda. Irish_Dem Mar 23 #7
Russian invasion of a former USSR Moslem state coming soon. nt doc03 Mar 23 #3
There's a certain irony here GregariousGroundhog Mar 23 #8
Please, please, please Vlad invade Afghanistan Kennah Mar 23 #13
115. Yikes. underpants Mar 23 #4
It's got nothing to do with Ukraine, Pootie FakeNoose Mar 23 #10
Only an idiot or a prosperous country fights on two fronts ArkansasDemocrat1 Mar 23 #11

Midnight Writer

(21,765 posts)
9. Interesting that they were able to get away.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:50 AM
Mar 23

This was no "run and gun" or a drive-by. They spent some time in the theatre, killing and burning, and left unchallenged.

Moscow cops must be about as brave and competent as Uvalde cops.

Lovie777

(12,262 posts)
5. Putin is only focusing on conquering Ukraine.........................
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 09:14 AM
Mar 23

any means necessary. He does not care about Isis nor what they did, nor the deaths, injured and destructions as a result of their terrorism, he will still blame Ukraine.

Putin will "trump" up and stack false evidence against Ukraine, or at least try.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
7. Yes Putin will use the attack to further his personal agenda.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 10:30 AM
Mar 23

To expand his power, clamp down on Russia in some way, and gain an advantage over Ukraine.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,522 posts)
8. There's a certain irony here
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:09 AM
Mar 23

I don't think many people would fault Russia for going after the Islamic State after this. Russia's military is kind of bogged down in Ukraine at the moment though.

The Islamic State's biggest base of power at the moment is in Afghanistan, where they are complicating the Taliban's efforts to govern the country in some areas. Even if Russia weren't tied up in Ukraine, seeing Russia operate in Afghanistan and/or cooperate with the Taliban would also be ironic given the Soviet Union's invasion in the 1980s.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
10. It's got nothing to do with Ukraine, Pootie
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:57 AM
Mar 23

This kind of looks like when an American President starts a war against Saddam Hussein and Iraq, even though the terrorist act was committed by a completely different group in a different country.

We've been down this road before.


ArkansasDemocrat1

(1,192 posts)
11. Only an idiot or a prosperous country fights on two fronts
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:54 PM
Mar 23

The Rus know what fighting Islam is like. My only fear is that they may nuke them since Pooty knows the world won't be as outraged aboyt that as they would be with Ukraine

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