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orangecrush

(19,555 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:18 PM Mar 23

Putin says gunmen who raided Moscow concert hall tried to escape to Ukraine. Kyiv denies involvement

Source: ABC News

Russian authorities arrested the four men suspected of carrying out the attack on a suburban Moscow concert hall that killed at least 133 people, President Vladimir Putin said Saturday during an address to the nation. He claimed they were captured while fleeing to Ukraine.

Kyiv strongly denied any involvement in Friday's attack on the Crocus City Hall music venue in Krasnogorsk, and the Islamic State's Afghanistan affiliate claimed responsibility.

Putin didn't mention IS in his speech, and Kyiv accused him and other Russian politicians of falsely linking Ukraine to the assault in order to stoke fervor in Russia's war in Ukraine, which recently entered its third year.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russian-detains-11-after-deadly-concert-hall-attack-108419908



Knew this was coming.

Looking for excuse to use tactical nukes?
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Putin says gunmen who raided Moscow concert hall tried to escape to Ukraine. Kyiv denies involvement (Original Post) orangecrush Mar 23 OP
You had to know Putin would try to pin this on Ukraine to give himself cover CousinIT Mar 23 #1
There are some shreds of goodwill out there for Russia and certainly for the victims right now BeyondGeography Mar 23 #2
Putin -- master user of propaganda -- says what? Earth-shine Mar 23 #3
Putin says suspects had contacts in Ukraine orangecrush Mar 23 #4
Maybe they did. So what? SarahD Mar 23 #5
Just letting everyone know orangecrush Mar 23 #6
His actions are 'sanctioned' by ecclesiastical higher up. sprinkleeninow Mar 23 #9
Which is why orangecrush Mar 23 #13
So that justifies his idiotic invasion somehow? IronLionZion Mar 23 #7
Whatever they say... 2naSalit Mar 23 #8
He certainly isn't known for being a truthteller PatSeg Mar 23 #10
Just Rebl2 Mar 23 #20
Yes, the belong to the same club PatSeg Mar 23 #28
As the saying goes, "Never let a good crisis go to waste".. .of COURSE he will blame Ukraine for every bit of this mitch96 Mar 23 #12
Sure is orangecrush Mar 23 #14
Took over an hour for police to arrive... 2naSalit Mar 23 #16
Indeed it does orangecrush Mar 23 #22
Have to remember... 2naSalit Mar 23 #23
There are liars, damned liars, then there is Putin. Sneederbunk Mar 23 #11
and his American sweethearts, trump and the repugs Wonder Why Mar 23 #15
Of course he did. padah513 Mar 23 #17
Putin trying to insinuate the Ukraine did the attach - I call BS. n/t iluvtennis Mar 23 #18
As so I orangecrush Mar 23 #21
Yes, we all knew this was coming blue-wave Mar 23 #19
Death toll 133. Warpy Mar 23 #24
Of course Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 23 #25
US gave poot a heads up on the ISIS threat MOMFUDSKI Mar 23 #26
The guys they caught will be forced to confess Diraven Mar 23 #27
Putin says a lot of things JustAnotherGen Mar 23 #29

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
1. You had to know Putin would try to pin this on Ukraine to give himself cover
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:21 PM
Mar 23

to keep up his damn attacks on those poor people.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
2. There are some shreds of goodwill out there for Russia and certainly for the victims right now
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:22 PM
Mar 23

Vlad will make quick work of that.

orangecrush

(19,555 posts)
4. Putin says suspects had contacts in Ukraine
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:34 PM
Mar 23

There will "be clear answer on battlefield if Ukraine is involved", per Russian defense minister

Yep, he wants to pop a nuke.

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SarahD

(1,182 posts)
5. Maybe they did. So what?
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:35 PM
Mar 23

They would try to run someplace. Escaping through a conflict zone would be pretty easy in many respects.

orangecrush

(19,555 posts)
6. Just letting everyone know
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:46 PM
Mar 23




Perfect excuse to hit a supply and munitions starved Ukraine.

If this happens, Republican house will be held accountable.

sprinkleeninow

(20,248 posts)
9. His actions are 'sanctioned' by ecclesiastical higher up.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:23 PM
Mar 23
That's what disturbs me so, being of the beautiful Eastern Orthodox Faith handed down through the ages.
Anathema! heretics.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
12. As the saying goes, "Never let a good crisis go to waste".. .of COURSE he will blame Ukraine for every bit of this
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 03:02 PM
Mar 23

act of terrorism. It play's into his hand to get more kids to join up and get more money for this war...
I'm waiting for putin to say "How did the US know about this without having a hand in it".. Oh and then there is the NATO involvement.. uff
my thoughts..
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2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
16. Took over an hour for police to arrive...
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 03:46 PM
Mar 23

I watched the Ruzzian dude video about it today. It was heavily censored but he was still quite informative.

Anyone who was paying attention back in 1999/2000 knew it was pootin who had those buildings bombed for political affect. He does it after every election to shore up his base. Sound familiar?

blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
19. Yes, we all knew this was coming
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:01 PM
Mar 23

Putin is pure evil. If he uses nukes the world's response must be strong. He's opening up what will be a real shit show.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
24. Death toll 133.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 07:06 PM
Mar 23

The mystery of how the roof was set on fire is solved, they used hobby drones with primitive incendiary devices.

The mystery of why the metal detectors weren't working and security was absent has not been solved.

It's no mystery that the commandos will be misidentified as Ukrainian. Medvedev did that during the first 2 minutes of the attack.

What we will never know about the commando attack on that theater is the truth.

Always remember that.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,535 posts)
26. US gave poot a heads up on the ISIS threat
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:18 PM
Mar 23

knowing that bugger would point the finger at Ukraine. Leg up on you poot!

Diraven

(519 posts)
27. The guys they caught will be forced to confess
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:27 PM
Mar 23

That Ukraine was behind the attack, under torture. They might not even be the actual perpetrators, they could just be some political prisoners hauled in front of the cameras so Putin could claim they caught them right away.

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