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BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:47 PM Mar 23

Trump says 'I love Truth Social' one day after DWAC stock plunges on social media merger vote

Source: CNBC

Published Sat, Mar 23 20242:29 PM EDT


Donald Trump on Saturday told his many online followers, “I LOVE TRUTH SOCIAL” — but shareholders in the newly merged company that will own that social media app might not feel so great after a sharp drop in price the day before.

The shell company Digital World Acquisition Corp. saw its share price plunge nearly 14% in the hours following shareholder approval Friday morning of a merger with the former president’s social media company to take it public.

If that drop accelerates in the coming weeks, the value of Trump’s majority stake in the newly merged company, dubbed Trump Media, could be a bit lower than the $3 billion or so estimated before shareholders signed off on the deal Friday.

DWAC’s stock, which hit a 52-week-high of $58.72 per share on Jan. 23 as the long-stalled merger appeared more likely to happen, had fallen to $44.20 per share as trading opened Friday morning just ahead of the shareholder vote. DWAC shares closed trading Friday afternoon at $36.94 per share.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/23/trump-says-i-love-truth-social-after-dwac-stock-plunges-.html

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Trump says 'I love Truth Social' one day after DWAC stock plunges on social media merger vote (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 23 OP
Stock price will tank... 2naSalit Mar 23 #1
$3 billion-with-a-B?? For Truth Social? Beartracks Mar 23 #2
Meme stock effect localroger Mar 23 #7
I doubt it's dollars. Probably pesos.... AZ8theist Mar 23 #15
Right, or Rubles EastBayGuy Mar 23 #16
Welcome to the Democratic Underground EastBayGuy! CountAllVotes Mar 24 #24
Hey it's -100 times that -31 million annual cashflow IbogaProject Mar 24 #18
To my way of thinking, THIS is proof of OVER PRICING his holdings. bluestarone Mar 23 #3
IOW, more fraud Attilatheblond Mar 23 #4
Tsf has no ability to tap into any money he might earn for at least 6 months...not gonna be worth much PortTack Mar 23 #5
He can if the board allows him to FBaggins Mar 23 #11
Yes, that's what this is all about. PSPS Mar 23 #12
The suckers will lose their shirts and blame Biden for their losses. Wonder Why Mar 23 #6
Somebody, or something is getting "pumped and dumped". 4lbs Mar 23 #8
Trump is the kiss of death for business. Merge with his company and go broke. Vinca Mar 23 #9
Yep. Everything TFG touches dies. Delmette2.0 Mar 24 #21
Even the 84-page DWAC prospectus states: EarthFirst Mar 23 #10
That's really interesting!! Why in gods name would they vote for that kind of business merger??!! PortTack Mar 23 #13
To acquire the app FBaggins Mar 23 #14
Basically a legal pump and dump jgmiller Mar 23 #17
DWAC's board of directors has Don Jr., Devin Nunes and Kash Patel on it. SunSeeker Mar 24 #19
Another way Red Mountain Mar 24 #20
Everything tsf touches dies, this is a fact! lark Mar 24 #22
Placing value on thin air pfitz59 Mar 24 #23
DWAC soon to be TFG is a meme stock that relies on the greater fool/idiot theory LetMyPeopleVote Mar 25 #25
Chump Trump has only One Pump, so RockRaven Mar 25 #26
We need to track DJT's share valuation......where's the floor? Truth Social is a walled garden cesspool. Trump's Xits? OAITW r.2.0 Mar 25 #27
That price still nets him billions for perpetrating a scam. Scrivener7 Mar 25 #28
He's always loved a good fail Blue Owl Mar 25 #29

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
1. Stock price will tank...
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:50 PM
Mar 23

And he isn't going to make anything on the deal in the end. It won't be leveraged for the bond.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
7. Meme stock effect
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 04:03 PM
Mar 23

There are no fundamentals backing such a valuation, and it will bleed down to nothing as reality sets in.

IbogaProject

(2,815 posts)
18. Hey it's -100 times that -31 million annual cashflow
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 02:09 AM
Mar 24

It's only 3 to 5 times normal price to cash flow in these types of deals. I'm joking and not even really looking beyond that Duce Social lost 31 million last year.

bluestarone

(16,940 posts)
3. To my way of thinking, THIS is proof of OVER PRICING his holdings.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 03:00 PM
Mar 23

Like he was accused of doing when he asked for loans. Am i right?

Attilatheblond

(2,168 posts)
4. IOW, more fraud
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 03:09 PM
Mar 23

He hasn't learned a thing, probably because no one has actually taken his court ordered fines from him. Oh, sure, he put up the bond to appeal the E Jean Carroll verdict, but he STILL thinks another court is gonna give it back on appeal.

He skated by for decades not paying contractors and nothing happened. He hasn't learned to stop frauding because it is still working for him.

One hopes NY AG James knocks that right out from under him. And soon.

PortTack

(32,767 posts)
5. Tsf has no ability to tap into any money he might earn for at least 6 months...not gonna be worth much
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 03:23 PM
Mar 23

By then.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
11. He can if the board allows him to
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:42 PM
Mar 23

It isn’t a law… it’s a corporate bylaw.

And soon he controls the board.

Also - he could borrow against it. A lender wouldn’t want to allow too much leverage because they might have to wait six months if they have to collect on it (and it’s likely to be volatile)… but 10% might not be a problem

PSPS

(13,598 posts)
12. Yes, that's what this is all about.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:44 PM
Mar 23

It's rare but not unheard of for the board to grant an exemption. Trump could net a couple of billion out of this.

4lbs

(6,855 posts)
8. Somebody, or something is getting "pumped and dumped".
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 04:56 PM
Mar 23

Reminds me of all the boiler room hard-pressure get-rich-quick schemes that take billions from others and then leave them with worthless crap stock.

Junk Bond Junkets.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
10. Even the 84-page DWAC prospectus states:
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:14 PM
Mar 23

“Trump may have interests that differ from yours and may vote in a way with which you disagree and may be adverse to your investor interest…”

jgmiller

(394 posts)
17. Basically a legal pump and dump
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 11:28 PM
Mar 23

DWAC has never had any real value and Truth Social is not profitable and Trump couldn't survive the SEC scrutiny to take it public so DWAC was createed to go public without any ties to Trump. It traded flat for almost 2 years then word of the merger hit his followers and they started buying shares of what is basically a shell company and drove the price up. They vote to merge with TS and suddenly on paper Trump has $3B. The problem is that he has a 6 month lockup where he can't sell the stock. Of course the board can (and will) vote to remove that lock up period but Trump still has a few problems. First no insitutional buyers are going to touch the stock and if he puts large blocks for sale the price will drop like a rock. The only way he can get value out of the shares is if he sells in small lots and hopes his MAGA followers keep buying them.

Something else to think about he can't really talk about the stock to his followers to get them to keep buying or it will be an illegal pump and dump. I don't think he's ever had the SEC coming after him so maybe he wants to add that to bingo card.

lark

(23,099 posts)
22. Everything tsf touches dies, this is a fact!
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 10:09 AM
Mar 24

Of course unTruth Social will tank, there was never any doubt.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,242 posts)
25. DWAC soon to be TFG is a meme stock that relies on the greater fool/idiot theory
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 12:58 AM
Mar 25

Meme stocks rely on the greater fool theory. I was amused to see that DWAC/Trump Media is classified as a meme stock where the value is due to personality and not due to the real value of issuer of the meme stock. This article is a good discussion of the meme nature of DWAC/TMT.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/donald-trump-truth-social-media-merger

Trump’s financial future now hinges on some of the strangest fads in corporate finance—meme stocks, SPAC deals, and cult-of-personality investing. If Trump can find a way to act fast, it might just be the bailout he desperately needs.

Truth Social is a bad imitation of Twitter, where Trump was an unavoidable presence long before he ran for president. It’s chock full of stale red-pilled memes, MAGA conspiracy theories, and of course, Trump. That’s the main draw. Truth Social is the only place the former president now regularly posts his unfettered thoughts......

DWAC is best thought of as a meme stock. You may remember the meme stock fad from when retail investors on Reddit successfully coordinated a short squeeze with GameStop stock, before glomming onto a series of other millennial nostalgia brands like AMC Entertainment, BlackBerry, and Bed Bath & Beyond. Meme stocks are often publicly traded companies that attract an inordinate percentage of individual investors and their stock performance fluctuates in a way that’s significantly divorced from the reality of their underlying business. Combine those two trends and you’ll start to see why Trump’s media company could be valued at roughly $9 billion if it merges with DWAC.

Jay Ritter, a finance professor at the University of Florida, says meme stocks often depend on the “greater fool theory of investing,” meaning rational investors might buy in expecting the stock price to rise and betting that they can sell their shares to a greater fool willing to buy them at a higher price. In this case, however, Ritter speculates there is an inordinate number of individual retail investors compared to institutional investors, such as hedge funds, that normally own SPAC shares prior to a merger. “Here you’ve got ideology involved [too]—as far as I can tell, the vast majority of DWAC investors are Trump political investors, and they’re to some degree putting their money where their mouth is… My suspicion is most of them have bought the stock as a show of political support.” In this way, Trump is conducting yet another public fundraising from his supporters—this time through the public markets.

Idiots who purchase meme stocks are betting that they can get out before the other idiots figure out that the stock is worthless

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
27. We need to track DJT's share valuation......where's the floor? Truth Social is a walled garden cesspool. Trump's Xits?
Mon Mar 25, 2024, 01:06 AM
Mar 25

Where is the value in this "merger"? Will it be around in, say, 6 months? A sucker's play, for sure...but Trump must be desperate at this point. Bet he's trying to lay off millions of shares, which he can't sell for 6 months.

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