New government spending bill bans U.S. embassies from flying Pride flag
Source: CBS News/AFP
March 23, 2024 / 6:40 PM EDT
Tucked in the massive government funding package signed Saturday by President Biden is a provision banning the flying of LGBTQ Pride flags over U.S. embassies. But even on the same day Mr. Biden signed the package, the White House vowed to work toward repealing the provision.
The prohibition was one of many side issues included in the mammoth $1.2 trillion package to fund the government through September, which passed early Saturday shortly after a midnight deadline.
As Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson, a conservative Christian, scrambled for votes to get the bill passed in his chamber, he allegedly touted the Pride flag ban as a reason his party should support the bill, the Daily Beast reported.
The White House said Saturday it would seek to find a way to repeal the ban on flying the rainbow flag, which celebrates the movement for LGBTQ equality. "Biden believes it was inappropriate to abuse the process that was essential to keep the government open by including this policy targeting LGBTQI+ Americans," a White House statement said, adding that the president "is committed to fighting for LGBTQI+ equality at home and abroad."
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Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)I don't blame Biden for signing this as we have to fund the government and get desperately needed aid to Ukraine, but the fact that this was their price is vile and pathetic.
kysrsoze
(6,021 posts)Shrub did it multiple times.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)If memory serves, he advocated for one, but never got it.
onenote
(42,703 posts)A 1996 federal law authorizing a line-item veto was held to be unconstitutional in 1998. In 2006 Bush proposed a new version of a line-item veto, but it was not enacted by Congress. Another line-item veto bill, targeting earmarks, was introduced in 2009 and also failed to be enacted.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)It was passed under Clinton as S.4 - Line Item Veto Act of 1996, who used it much to the GOP's chagrin.
It was taken to court and struck down by the SCOTUS in 1998 -
Clinton disappointed; Opponents of veto call it a victory for the Constitution
WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, June 25) -- The line-item veto is unconstitutional, the Supreme Court decided Thursday, ruling that Congress did not have the authority to hand that power to the president.
Line Item Veto
The 6-3 ruling said that the Constitution gives a president only two choices: either sign legislation or send it back to Congress. The 1996 line-item veto law allowed the president to pencil out specific spending items approved by the Congress. In his majority opinion Justice John Paul Stevens upheld a lower court's decision, concluding "the procedures authorized by the line-item veto act are not authorized by the Constitution."
If Congress wants to give the president that power, they will have to pass a constitutional amendment, Stevens said. "If there is to be a new procedure in which the president will play a different role in determining the text of what may become a law, such change must come not by legislation but through the amendment procedures set forth in Article V of the Constitution," Stevens said.
The court's ruling was a defeat for the Clinton Administration, which asked the high court to reverse the lower court's ruling. President Bill Clinton, traveling in China, said he was "deeply disappointed." Clinton was the first president to exercise the veto, which he did 82 times last year. Many of the vetoed programs are under court challenges and should now win their appeals.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20081008092502/http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/06/25/scotus.lineitem/
Shrub tried to get a replacement in 2006 but that went nowhere. Russ Feingold and John McCain tried once more in 2009 and that also went nowhere.
They like their "pork". You'll have loons in the GOP vote against it and then go back to their Districts and tout how they "brought dollars back to their state for their constitutents".
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)They said it needed to be a Constitutional amendment. Not sure of their reasoning but that was that. No one has tried since then
BOTH should've become law.
Warpy
(111,261 posts)and they said it was a big no no.
onenote
(42,703 posts)The line item veto bill enacted while Clinton was president was a Republican initiative in Congress. In the Senate, the bill was introduced by Dole and of the 31 votes against, 28 were from Democrats
The decision striking it down was by a 6-3 vote. And the six justices you claim had a hissy fit because it was a Democrat using it were Stevens - who wrote the opinion Ginsburg, Souter, Kennedy, Rehnquist, and Thomas. Dissenting were Scalia, OConnor and Breyer
James48
(4,436 posts)That was declared un-Constitutional ages ago.
See Clinton vs. New York, 1998, where the Supreme Court found it un-Constitutional.
Mr.Bill
(24,292 posts)The economic damage from a shutdown is something we can't let happen. Biden knows when and where to pick his battles.
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)So use multicolored lights instead, or something besides a "flag".
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)By November, we'll have the House, the Senate and the White House and they'll all be flying the BLUE flag.
So this little "pride" thing is meaningless.
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)Seniors don't get a gray and diarrhea colored one.
If LGBTQs want to bring a rainbow flag to the embassy and stand out front. Fine.
I don't think the embassy should have them removed.
I honestly don't understand why we would have been flying any other flag anyway.
It's the American Embassy.
That said I also think Johnson is an asshole.
jvill
(216 posts)And as a supposed global beacon of democracy, it illustrates our values.
If those seniors you mentioned are LGBTQ, I bet you that they would be interested in flying that rainbow flag over the American embassy.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)atreides1
(16,079 posts)While it's supposed to stand for all Americans...I don't believe it does.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)jvill
(216 posts)...
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)RandomNumbers
(17,600 posts)That said, let's keep things in perspective. The associations and understandings many people have about that flag, are VERY different than what is revealed by its history. I sure wouldn't make a political fight about it at this point. But if someone made a rule that conveniently took this flag down, we shouldn't mind.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)since flying the pride flag doesn't hurt anyone either.
A quick google shows US embassies have flown the pride flag in Uruguay, Bahamas, Italy, and even Muslim countries like UAE and Kosovo with Secretary Blinken's permission.
Dem2theMax
(9,651 posts)It's their brand.
Hey, GOP. I hope you see this in your dreams.
Every single night.
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)that, unlike banning funding for UN Gaza aid, this is only a policy for the life of this bill...September 30, 2024.
It is a petty, mean 'victory' for the GQP, outweighed by the good things funded.
70sEraVet
(3,501 posts)not to fly rainbow flags from THEIR Embassy buildings (at least until the Evangelocos lose the House)???