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demmiblue

(36,853 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 05:42 PM Mar 27

Joe Lieberman, 2000 vice presidential nominee, dies at 82

Source: Politico

Joe Lieberman, a longtime senator from Connecticut who became the first Jewish American to be nominated on a major party’s ticket, died Wednesday. He was 82.

Lieberman’s family stated that he died “due to complications from a fall. He was 82 years old. His beloved wife, Hadassah, and members of his family were with him as he passed.”

Halfway through his 24-year Senate career, Lieberman was chosen as Al Gore’s running mate for the 2000 presidential election. The ticket lost one of the closest elections in American history. “No Jew had ever sought such a lofty office,” wrote the authors of “Jews in American Politics.”

“The net effect of the nomination,” they added, “has been to change the perception of what is possible for Jewish candidates for office for all time.”

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/27/joe-lieberman-2000-vice-presidential-nominee-obit-033980

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Joe Lieberman, 2000 vice presidential nominee, dies at 82 (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 27 OP
He was just chewing out Chuck Schumer last week n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 27 #1
That's what I thought BumRushDaShow Mar 27 #8
Oh. OK. DinahMoeHum Mar 27 #2
OMG!! New one! I'll remember it. LeftInTX Mar 27 #27
I will BECOME a grave pisser when this becomes available: AZ8theist Mar 27 #72
So, instead of rocks, would it be more appropriate to put bottles of hand sanitizer on the gravestone? Montauk6 Apr 4 #81
Agreed. TeamProg Mar 27 #44
Joe 'Asshole' Lieberman passed? LenaBaby61 Mar 27 #56
Nicole Wallace eulogizing him along w Matt Dowd and Mark Elias -- she's in tears Hekate Mar 27 #3
Thanks for the heads up. I will avoid watching all the revisionist propaganda Sky Jewels Mar 27 #11
Lieberman is in part being lauded as a "relic of a bygone era" Hekate Mar 27 #16
I will always remember him as "Traitor Joe." Sky Jewels Mar 27 #19
Perhaps you have a different definition of "treason" than I do. brooklynite Mar 27 #50
I would rrather laud Senator Jacob Javits, a New York REPUBLICAN. elleng Mar 27 #51
No revisionism, but you might want to turn off the tv for the next couple of hours. Colleagues... Hekate Mar 27 #22
Yep. It happens every time. Some right-wing enabling asshole dies, Sky Jewels Mar 27 #37
Nicole Wallace is such a hypocrite! GoreWon2000 Mar 27 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Mar 27 #4
I met him twice. barbaraann Mar 27 #5
You hosted him? Hekate Mar 27 #14
In our motor home. barbaraann Mar 27 #18
Anyway... getagrip_already Mar 27 #6
Funny story. When Al Gore picked him as a running mate, my friends at the temple and I marveled at the.... MMBeilis Mar 27 #7
Gore got the most votes in Florida in 2000! GoreWon2000 Mar 27 #39
Thank you for reminding us of that... Think. Again. Mar 27 #46
It should never be forgotten. Normalization of known falsehoods is a sign of inevitable collapse. jaxexpat Mar 28 #76
Where do I go to piss on his grave? nt Javaman Mar 27 #9
Celebrate first. After the funeral you will know where to take a leak. Autumn Mar 27 #45
Judas and Satan hugged Lieberman today Bluejeans Mar 27 #10
Hekate suggests you dial it back for a day Hekate Mar 27 #12
Why piss on a newbie like that? He is entitled to his/her opinion as long as it doesn't break any rules. Ferrets are Cool Mar 27 #20
I avoided the urine deposit, as you would have noticed were you not in an emotional state yourself. Maybe. Hekate Mar 27 #30
That's a negative, ghost rider. paleotn Mar 27 #28
I disagree. I think Judas and Satan would have better standards. Autumn Mar 27 #33
I heard Satan shook hands, but Judas didn't like the optics of his association with Joe so he stayed away Kennah Mar 27 #62
You know Lieberman is Jewish? Mosby Mar 27 #43
Ooh, excellent point! ShazzieB Mar 27 #66
I used two metaphors Bluejeans Mar 27 #71
You invoked Christian eschatology that has nothing to do with Jews. Mosby Mar 28 #80
Right on! (n/t) PJMcK Mar 27 #52
Mostly I will remember him as spiteful BeyondGeography Mar 27 #13
Say good things about the dead.... Good he is xxxd. Botany Mar 27 #15
I'm not shedding any tears Ferrets are Cool Mar 27 #17
He will be missed dweller Mar 27 #21
yeah maybe. TeamProg Mar 27 #47
No tears from me. Fiendish Thingy Mar 27 #23
We agree!! Oopsie Daisy Mar 27 #38
Thoughts snd prayers. mobeau69 Mar 27 #24
Can we hope that No Labels will give up now? muriel_volestrangler Mar 27 #25
Okay. Bye. Oopsie Daisy Mar 27 #26
Worst VP pick ever...cost the election Prairie Gates Mar 27 #29
You couldn't be more wrong! GoreWon2000 Mar 27 #42
Thank you again. Think. Again. Mar 27 #48
No big loss. I really don't care. Autumn Mar 27 #31
Can't say I was a fan, for obvious reasons. Tommy Carcetti Mar 27 #32
Not polite to say disparaging things about the departed, so I'll leave it at that. paleotn Mar 27 #34
All you guys have fun. Trashing thread. Hekate Mar 27 #36
Grave-dancing is tacky * Oopsie Daisy Mar 27 #40
Many Democratic Big Dogs will attend funeral, BunkieBandit Mar 27 #41
Then trash it NanaCat Mar 28 #74
He may have assumed he conducted his life in a proper n meaningful way.. sprinkleeninow Mar 28 #78
Media still covering up Bush/Florida 2000 election theft GoreWon2000 Mar 27 #49
A great composer's advice PJMcK Mar 27 #53
Nothing in his life rambler_american Mar 27 #54
He had a productive career. SarahD Mar 27 #55
He let bush2 into office , (at the time and for the next decade plus the worst, least prepared and most damaging mpcamb Mar 27 #57
buh bye Mr. Senator, I'll always remember you as one of the hollowest men 0rganism Mar 27 #58
No labels lost a big ally wolfie001 Mar 27 #59
Noted. NewHendoLib Mar 27 #60
Well, one less vote for trump newdayneeded Mar 27 #61
He was a schmuck keroro gunsou Mar 27 #63
No more Joementum for Loserman Hassler Mar 27 #64
RIP Joe.. Maxheader Mar 27 #65
I would say the rich and powerful he served are sad harun Mar 27 #67
oh CountAllVotes Mar 27 #68
Whew! 2naSalit Mar 27 #69
I met him once at Max's in Wheaton MD near DC several years ago. honest.abe Mar 27 #70
And no one who mattered NanaCat Mar 28 #73
Enough of the infighting ppl. Real question is what happens now with his vacated seat onetexan Mar 28 #75
Lol Polybius Mar 28 #79
And with Lieberman dead, the No Labels party should die as well. NL is just enabling illiberalism. onetexan Mar 28 #77

LeftInTX

(25,335 posts)
27. OMG!! New one! I'll remember it.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:14 PM
Mar 27

I'm not a grave pisser, but there are a few out there....Usually they die when they're so old, that I really don't care anymore.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
3. Nicole Wallace eulogizing him along w Matt Dowd and Mark Elias -- she's in tears
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 05:45 PM
Mar 27

Lovely tribute from all three

Rick Stengel on now

Sky Jewels

(7,096 posts)
11. Thanks for the heads up. I will avoid watching all the revisionist propaganda
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:00 PM
Mar 27

lauding Joe Lieberman, a man who did a great deal harm to this country.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
22. No revisionism, but you might want to turn off the tv for the next couple of hours. Colleagues...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:09 PM
Mar 27

…are dropping by the studio to give a few kind reminiscences. As one does.

Sky Jewels

(7,096 posts)
37. Yep. It happens every time. Some right-wing enabling asshole dies,
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:25 PM
Mar 27

and then suddenly everyone is supposed to pretend s/he was a great person, no matter what shitty things they did in their life, such as, oh, I don't know, preventing people age 55 and older from getting Medicare and working to get Republicans like Trump elected. I know this Kabuki theater. It's tiresome.

GoreWon2000

(78 posts)
35. Nicole Wallace is such a hypocrite!
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:20 PM
Mar 27

Excuse me but this is the same Nicole Wallace who worked for Jeb Bush in Florida while the now infamous felon purge that illegally removed more than 50,000 legally registered African-American democrats from Florida's voting rolls and then helped W during the Florida 2000 election dispute spread the big lie that all of the Florida votes had been counted and recounted which was never true. Several hundred thousand legally cast Florida votes from the largest and most heavily democratic voting counties now sit uncounted in the Florida archives.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

MMBeilis

(191 posts)
7. Funny story. When Al Gore picked him as a running mate, my friends at the temple and I marveled at the....
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 05:54 PM
Mar 27

.....genius of the pick. We were convinced that Joe would lock up the the Jewish vote in Florida and the ticket would carry our state easily. You'll remember that 2020 didn't work out that way.

GoreWon2000

(78 posts)
39. Gore got the most votes in Florida in 2000!
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:28 PM
Mar 27

Having spent 15 years volunteering on election campaigns from local state legislative campaigns to Presidential campaigns when I lived in Florida and living in one of the disputed Florida counties, the ugly truth is that Al Gore got the most votes in Florida. Thanks to 5 corrupt GOP SCOTUS judges who rubberstamped W's election theft, several hundred thousand votes from the largest and most heavily democratic voting counties in Florida sit uncounted in the Florida archives and they tell the ugly truth that Al Gore got the most votes in Florida.

Think. Again.

(8,129 posts)
46. Thank you for reminding us of that...
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:45 PM
Mar 27

...it's far too easy for folks to fall for the false claim that Gore lost that election.

He didn't, he won it, but he lost the supreme court's decision to allow a full and correct vote count.

jaxexpat

(6,828 posts)
76. It should never be forgotten. Normalization of known falsehoods is a sign of inevitable collapse.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 05:29 AM
Mar 28

Just as obliging the will of the minority is undemocratic, no matter the impetus. It undermines the correctional option of the next election.

Bluejeans

(68 posts)
10. Judas and Satan hugged Lieberman today
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 05:59 PM
Mar 27

Judas hugged Lieberman today saying, "Great work you did in 2008 backing McCain instead of your own party's nominee, Obama."

Satan hugged Lieberman today saying, "Great work you did too supporting the great lie that Iraq was a threat to the US instead of pointing out the great lie about WMD."

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
20. Why piss on a newbie like that? He is entitled to his/her opinion as long as it doesn't break any rules.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:06 PM
Mar 27

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
30. I avoided the urine deposit, as you would have noticed were you not in an emotional state yourself. Maybe.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:15 PM
Mar 27

Carry on — enjoy the rest of your day.

Kennah

(14,265 posts)
62. I heard Satan shook hands, but Judas didn't like the optics of his association with Joe so he stayed away
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:56 PM
Mar 27

Mosby

(16,311 posts)
43. You know Lieberman is Jewish?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:42 PM
Mar 27

Who is Judas to a Jew?

Who is Satan to a Jew?

Maybe you should not project your Christianity and view of the afterlife onto Jews.

Just a thought.

Bluejeans

(68 posts)
71. I used two metaphors
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:34 PM
Mar 27

I used two metaphors in my comment. Lieberman's religion has nothing to do with my use of metaphors; his conduct did.

- One metaphor was to symbolize how Lieberman turned his back on the Democratic party and worked to defeat its presidential candidate.

- One metaphor to symbolize how Lieberman was so strident in his support for the Iraq war which was justified on WMD lies, yet killed and wounded countless Americans, Iraqis and others. He even refused to apologize for it during an MSNBC interview with Mehdi Hassan on Oct 27, 2001.

And yes, I knew Lieberman was Jewish--just like I know my own brother is a practicing Jew.

Mosby

(16,311 posts)
80. You invoked Christian eschatology that has nothing to do with Jews.
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 12:23 PM
Mar 28

Your comments don't resonate with Jews, only Christians.

If you want to criticize Leiberman, leave religion out of it.


Botany

(70,504 posts)
15. Say good things about the dead.... Good he is xxxd.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:03 PM
Mar 27

His along with John McCain and Lindsey Graham’s walking tour of that market in Baghdad cost
a lot of lives.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
25. Can we hope that No Labels will give up now?
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:12 PM
Mar 27

He seems to have been co-chairman still, and doing a lot of the public appearances.

Prairie Gates

(1,010 posts)
29. Worst VP pick ever...cost the election
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:14 PM
Mar 27

You could say Palin, sure, but McCain wasn't going to win that anyway. Lieberman's vapid neoliberalism gave Nader the in that pulled just the right amount of votes from Gore.

Extremely poor judgment on Gore's part, too.

GoreWon2000

(78 posts)
42. You couldn't be more wrong!
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:40 PM
Mar 27

Nader's big lie that there were no differences between Al Gore and the Bush thief along with the $5 million tv ad campaign paid for by the Republican Leadership Council to spread Nader's big lie in battleground states like Florida made it possible for the Bush thief to get close enough in Florida to have Bush thief's little brother Jeb and Florida campaign co-chair Katherine Harris steal the election by refusing to count all of the uncounted votes as Florida law in 2000 clearly required and then got the GOP SCOTUS majority to rubberstamp their election stealing. Al Gore got the most votes nationally and in Florida and despite Nader and the pro Bush thief media. I spent 15 years volunteering on election campaigns when I lived in Florida and I know the laws that the Bush thief and his election stealers broke and the disputed territory like the back of my hand. It's the pro Bush thief media who continues to refuse to tell this important story.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
32. Can't say I was a fan, for obvious reasons.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:18 PM
Mar 27

In the end he was a crappy Democrat who could have been a mediocre Republican but ultimately went Independent.

That being said, I do have some affinity for the fact he was the first national politician I saw at a political rally.

2000, in Florida. He ended his speech by tailoring the lyrics of Frank Sinatra's "New York" to "It's up to you, Florida, Florida!"

Which was endearing enough at the time. I guess.

Well, he had a family, so I suppose I feel for them on a personal level.

On a political level...meh.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
34. Not polite to say disparaging things about the departed, so I'll leave it at that.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:20 PM
Mar 27

Certainly nothing GOOD can be said of him.

BunkieBandit

(82 posts)
41. Many Democratic Big Dogs will attend funeral,
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:36 PM
Mar 27

but they will get a pass eulogizing Joe , perhaps not. If so, what will be said then?

NanaCat

(1,112 posts)
74. Then trash it
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:53 AM
Mar 28

You have the right to mourn the loss of someone who actively worked to shit on Democrats.

The rest of us will have the decency to be honest about how we viewed him. One of the stupidest social customs is thinking one must always respect the dead.

I would have danced on Hitler's grave, if I'd been alive then. I did cheer when Bundy died--not the way he died, but that someone who had gone out of his way to hurt people was no longer able to do so.

Lieberman is only slightly lower in my esteem than those two, and he's not entitled to my respect just because he removed himself from the human race. Why should he have that, when he did everything in his power to scorn it?

sprinkleeninow

(20,249 posts)
78. He may have assumed he conducted his life in a proper n meaningful way..
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 06:05 AM
Mar 28
until his very recent 'translation' when he possibly had a face-to-face with his Creator.

Jus' sayin'....

GoreWon2000

(78 posts)
49. Media still covering up Bush/Florida 2000 election theft
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 06:50 PM
Mar 27

Even in an article about Joe Lieberman's passing, the media continues to cover-up Bush's theft of the 2000 election. It's pretty scary to think that we have a media in this country that thinks it's ok to not count several hundred thousand votes for President that most surely would've sent the Bush thief back to Texas were it not for his little brother and campaign co-chair in Florida combined with 5 GOP SCOTUS judges.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
53. A great composer's advice
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:11 PM
Mar 27

He said, “Never speak ill of the living. Wait until they’re dead and can’t respond.”

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
57. He let bush2 into office , (at the time and for the next decade plus the worst, least prepared and most damaging
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:26 PM
Mar 27

president into office); some legacy!

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
58. buh bye Mr. Senator, I'll always remember you as one of the hollowest men
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:34 PM
Mar 27

a hollow man, a stuffed man, headpiece full of straw

Enjoy that final meeting in the twilight kingdom, you sure earned it

keroro gunsou

(2,223 posts)
63. He was a schmuck
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 07:56 PM
Mar 27

I wish I could be nicer about it, but I can’t, especially after he deliberately screwed over key parts of Obamacare and later Medicare. I hope the insurance companies paid him well for that sloppy blowjob he gave them.

That being said, best wishes and condolences to his wife and family in this crappy time. May his memory be a blessing.

I won’t go out of my way to grave dance, but I certainly won’t be singing his praises either.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
70. I met him once at Max's in Wheaton MD near DC several years ago.
Wed Mar 27, 2024, 09:34 PM
Mar 27

It closed now but was a popular kosher restaurant in the Maryland suburbs. Great Shawarma! He was a decent guy but not a full blooded liberal like most of us here. I think Gore make a mistake choosing him as VP. My Orthodox Jewish friends liked him.

NanaCat

(1,112 posts)
73. And no one who mattered
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:45 AM
Mar 28

Didn't rejoice at his demise.

I despised the self-serving wanker, and I'm not changing my mind because the scumbag did society a favour and will finally push up some daisies.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
75. Enough of the infighting ppl. Real question is what happens now with his vacated seat
Thu Mar 28, 2024, 01:54 AM
Mar 28

Can anyone shed light please?

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